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not getting into this. ive learned my lesson when it comes to arguing about this stuff. and id probably get warned/banned if i said what i really wanted to say.
You obviously lack conviction, then. That's the little voice in your head conceding that I'm right, and you're just not prepared to admit it yet, because of pride, etc.
Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 03:34:24 PM by Fuddy Duddy II


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not getting into this. ive learned my lesson when it comes to arguing about this stuff. and id probably get warned/banned if i said what i really wanted to say.
You obviously lack conviction, then.

No, it's because arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall. That's why he won't fight with you again.
Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 03:31:33 PM by CÆSAR GAIVS AVTISMVS


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not getting into this. ive learned my lesson when it comes to arguing about this stuff. and id probably get warned/banned if i said what i really wanted to say.
You obviously lack conviction, then.
and you look cute today.


 
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No, it's because arguing with you is like arguing with a brick wall.
"You don't agree with me; therefore, you're a brick wall."

Most drinkers tend to agree with me, believe it or not. It's only the insecure little bitches who think life should be about fun and happiness that disagree with me--and their only argument is "muh rights." As if I'm trying to take away anyone's right to drink their swill.

No. All I'm doing is describing it for what it is--a stupid, unhealthy, potentially dangerous, and ultimately inadvisable practice that accomplishes absolutely nothing, and more likely than not puts you in a worse position than you were before. Most people realize this as truth--but they still drink anyway, because their lives are too pathetic not to.

That's the cold, hard truth.
Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 03:36:27 PM by Fuddy Duddy II


 
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Verbatim, your opinions aren't facts. I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this. My condolences.
Good thing all I've stated in this thread are facts, then.

Everyone should want to be 100% sober at all times. That's an opinion, and I ardently adhere to it.
Getting intoxicated is harmful & stupid. That's a fact, and denying it is lunacy.
Last Edit: January 19, 2016, 03:44:21 PM by Fuddy Duddy II


 
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Anyone wanna get in on the fun? I'm off to work so I don't have time to get into an hour long flamewar with Verb.


 
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your ideology
An ideology based entirely on facts and logic.


 
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How the fuck is doing something harmful to your body anything but stupid?

Oh right, it's not.
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Because it causes happiness, which isn't stupid.
LOL

Happiness is practically the definition of stupidity.

If you're happy, you're probably doing something wrong.

It would probably make me very happy to punch you in the face--so I guess that means I should just go out and hurt everyone I dislike, because it'll make ME happy.

Right? Because happiness is totally a good thing, right?
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But unlike you, I don't spend my time berating and hating people who have a drink.
What a saint you are.
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Because it causes happiness, which isn't stupid.
LOL

Happiness is practically the definition of stupidity.

If you're happy, you're probably doing something wrong.
my god, dude. stop trying to tell other people that we're supposed to live in misery. life already sucks enough, so fucking what if i want to get trashed and forget my woes every once in a while?


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The drinking age should always reflect the age of majority. There is nothing inherently wrong with drinking responsibly. Getting dangerously intoxicated as verb is implying is obviously bad, but it's not the norm that he seems to believe it is.


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The drinking age should always reflect the age of majority. There is nothing inherently wrong with drinking responsibly. Getting dangerously intoxicated as verb is implying is obviously bad, but it's not the norm that he seems to believe it is.
well, it depends on the circle you travel in. fraternity/sorority culture is usually pretty supportive of dangerous binge drinking for example.


and this isnt directly related to the above, but just so we have a handy source for future reference:

http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

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Adults (ages 18+): 16.6 million adults ages 18 and older3 (7.0 percent of this age group4) had an AUD in 2013. This includes 10.8 million men3 (9.4 percent of men in this age group4) and 5.8 million women3 (4.7 percent of women in this age group4).

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Youth (ages 12–17): In 2013 an estimated 697,000 adolescents ages 12–176 (2.8 percent of this age group7) had an AUD. This number includes 385,000 females6 (3.2 percent of females in this age group7) and 311,000 males6 (2.5 percent of males in this age group7).

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Nearly 88,0009 people (approximately 62,000 men and 26,000 women10) die from alcohol-related causes annually, making it the third leading preventable cause of death in the United States.9
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my god, dude. stop trying to tell other people that we're supposed to live in misery. life already sucks enough, so fucking what if i want to get trashed and forget my woes every once in a while?
You'll forget them--and then you'll remember them. Nothing changes--you're still the miserable fuck you were before.

How about doing something that will actually ameliorate your woes in some way?

Instead of slowly killing yourself?


 
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my god, dude. stop trying to tell other people that we're supposed to live in misery. life already sucks enough, so fucking what if i want to get trashed and forget my woes every once in a while?
You'll forget them--and then you'll remember them.

How about doing something that will actually ameliorate your woes in some way?

Instead of slowly killing yourself?
im slowly dying, period. i get drunk once every few months. its hardly going to become a major cause of illness for me. im much more likely to become ill due to cancer or all the horrible processed/sugar laden food ive eaten for my entire life, or killed in a car accident.

getting drunk, or getting high off pot (which i do much more often), makes me feel better in the moment, because the now is what really matters to me. if i am able to relieve my stress, even momentarily, then it feels good. my time on this earth is fleeting and ultimately meaningless; id like to do things that make me feel good instead of wallowing in my own existential misery and telling other people that they should do the same.


 
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Except you're causing others unhappiness.
People cause me unhappiness when they drink.

Masturbation makes me happy--that's not hurting anyone.

But it's factually a waste of my goddamn time, and I'd be better off if I stopped.

Fuck happiness. Your personal happiness isn't worth shit.


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Not everyone drinks to get drunk.

Alcohol consumption does release dopamine tho.


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The drinking age should always reflect the age of majority. There is nothing inherently wrong with drinking responsibly. Getting dangerously intoxicated as verb is implying is obviously bad, but it's not the norm that he seems to believe it is.
well, it depends on the circle you travel in. fraternity/sorority culture is usually pretty supportive of dangerous binge drinking for example.


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http://www.niaaa.nih.gov/alcohol-health/overview-alcohol-consumption/alcohol-facts-and-statistics

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Adults (ages 18+): 16.6 million adults ages 18 and older3 (7.0 percent of this age group4) had an AUD in 2013. This includes 10.8 million men3 (9.4 percent of men in this age group4) and 5.8 million women3 (4.7 percent of women in this age group4).

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Youth (ages 12–17): In 2013 an estimated 697,000 adolescents ages 12–176 (2.8 percent of this age group7) had an AUD. This number includes 385,000 females6 (3.2 percent of females in this age group7) and 311,000 males6 (2.5 percent of males in this age group7).
>.> Safety-wise, it's for the better. But legally, it's questionable, I think.

Firstly, obviously, the age of majority is legal adulthood, period.

Secondly, regarding the folks who could drink at 18 and then couldn't, the government can grant rights but it can't take them away.

Thirdly, placing a restriction or taking away a right on the basis of what might happen in a minority of cases doesn't really work as a valid argument, partly because the majority shouldn't have to be punished for the irresponsibility of the minority.
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Not everyone drinks to get drunk.
If you drink to get buzzed, you're no better. In some ways, you're worse.

And if you drink just for the flavor, then you're just... stupid.
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Alcohol consumption does release dopamine tho.
Water is wet.

What's your point?


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Not everyone drinks to get drunk.
If you drink to get buzzed, you're no better. In some ways, you're worse.

And if you drink just for the flavor, then you're just... stupid.
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Alcohol consumption does release dopamine tho.
Water is wet.

What's your point?
Ok


 
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They're not harming you or anyone else. You get unhappy all by yourself.
Because it's a factually stupid and wasteful thing to do.

Like drinking.

And I will insult the fuck out of anyone who does it.


 
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