Are you pro or con on these issues?

More Than Mortal · March 26, 2015, 01:37:19 PM

Also, add some nuance. So, like, strongly or moderately or weakly for, for instance. I'll post my own list, and then post the issues separately in a spoiler below so you can just copy-paste them.

Abortion - weakly for

Affirmative Action - strongly against

Animal Rights - weakly for

Barack Obama - moderately against

Border Fence - strongly against

Capitalism - strongly for

Civil Unions - weakly for

Death Penality - weakly for

Drug Legalisation - moderately for

Electoral College - weakly for

Environmental Protection - weakly for

Estate or Inheritance Tax - strongly against

European Union - strongly against

Euthanasia - moderately against

Federal Reserve or Central Bank - moderately for

Flat Tax - weakly for

Free Trade - strongly for

Gay Marriage - moderately for

Global Warming is caused by humans - strongly for

Globalisation - strongly for

Gold Standard - strongly against

Gun Rights - weakly for

Homeschooling - moderately against

Internet Censorship - strongly against

2003 Iraq War - moderately for

Labour Unions - moderately against

Legalised Prostitution - neutral

Medicare and Medicaid - moderately against

Medical Marijuana - strongly for

Military Intervention - moderately for

Minimum Wage - moderately against

National Health Care - moderately against

National Sales Tax - strongly for

Occupy Movement - strongly against

Progressive Tax - weakly for

Racial Profiling - moderately against

Redistribution of Wealth - moderately against

Smoking Ban - moderately against

Socialism - strongly against

Stimulus Spending - strongly against

Term Limits - moderately against

Torture - strongly against

United Nations - strongly against

War in Afghanistan - moderately for

War on Terror - strongly for

Welfare - weakly for

Spoiler

Abortion -
Affirmative Action -
Animal Rights -
Barack Obama -
Border Fence -
Capitalism -
Civil Unions -
Death Penality -
Drug Legalisation -
Electoral College -
Environmental Protection -
Estate or Inheritance Tax -
European Union -
Euthanasia -
Federal Reserve -
Flat Tax -
Free Trade -
Gay Marriage -
Global Warming is caused by humans -
Globalisation -
Gold Standard -
Gun Rights -
Homeschooling -
Internet Censorship -
2003 Iraq War -
Labour Unions -
Legalised Prostitution -
Medicare and Medicaid -
Medical Marijuana -
Military Intervention -
Minimum Wage -
National Health Care -
National Sales Tax -
Occupy Movement -
Progressive Tax -
Racial Profiling -
Redistribution of Wealth -
Smoking Ban -
Socialism -
Stimulus Spending -
Term Limits -
Torture -
United Nations -
War in Afghanistan -
War on Terror -
Welfare -

PSU · March 26, 2015, 01:52:50 PM

Abortion - Strongly Against
Affirmative Action - Strongly Against
Animal Rights - Weakly For
Barack Obama - Weakly Against
Border Fence - Strongly For
Capitalism - Strongly For
Civil Unions - Against
Death Penality - Strongly for
Drug Legalisation - Weakly For
Electoral College - For
Environmental Protection - For
Estate or Inheritance Tax - Strongly Against
European Union - N/A
Euthanasia - Weakly Against
Federal Reserve - For
Flat Tax - For
Free Trade - For
Gay Marriage - Weakly Against
Global Warming is caused by humans - Strongly Against
Globalisation - For
Gold Standard - For
Gun Rights - Strongly For
Homeschooling - Strongly Against
Internet Censorship - Against
2003 Iraq War - Strongly For
Labour Unions - Against
Legalised Prostitution - Strongly Against
Medicare and Medicaid - For
Medical Marijuana - Strongly For
Military Intervention - Strongly For
Minimum Wage - Weakly Against
National Health Care - Strongly Against
National Sales Tax - Against
Occupy Movement - Strongly Against
Progressive Tax - Strongly Against
Racial Profiling - For
Redistribution of Wealth - Strongly Against
Smoking Ban - Strongly Against
Socialism - Strongly Against
Stimulus Spending - Strongly Against
Term Limits - Strongly For
Torture - Strongly For
United Nations - For
War in Afghanistan - Strongly For
War on Terror - Strongly For
Welfare - Strongly Against

Mad Max · March 26, 2015, 01:56:30 PM

Spoiler

Abortion - You mean keeping abortion legal? Strongly for. I'm not "for" abortion.
Affirmative Action - Hard no.
Animal Rights - 75% yes.
Barack Obama - entirely meh.
Border Fence - Hard no.
Capitalism - Pure, unregulated capitalism? lolno.
Civil Unions - Replacing marriage entirely for both hetero and homo couples? Sure.
Death Penality - Hard no.
Drug Legalisation - Mostly yes.
Electoral College - Hard no.
Environmental Protection - Very yes.
Estate or Inheritance Tax - Don't know enough to say.
European Union - Don't know enough to say.
Euthanasia - Kinda yeah.
Federal Reserve - Don't know enough to say.
Flat Tax - lolno
Free Trade - Don't know enough to say.
Gay Marriage - Very yes.
Global Warming is caused by humans - Very yes.
Globalisation - Don't know enough to say.
Gold Standard - Don't know enough to say.
Gun Rights - Mostly yeah.
Homeschooling - It's stupid, but if you want, sure.
Internet Censorship - Hard no.
2003 Iraq War - Hard no.
Labour Unions - Mostly no.
Legalised Prostitution - Very yes.
Medicare and Medicaid - Very yes.
Medical Marijuana - Sure.
Military Intervention - Mostly no.
Minimum Wage - Very yes.
National Health Care - Very yes.
National Sales Tax - Not sure.
Occupy Movement - Mostly yes.
Progressive Tax - Very yes.
Racial Profiling - Very no.
Redistribution of Wealth - Very no.
Smoking Ban - In public places, yes.
Socialism - Mostly yes.
Stimulus Spending - Not sure.
Term Limits - Of whom?
Torture - Very, very no.
United Nations - Not sure.
War in Afghanistan - Very no.
War on Terror - Very no.
Welfare - mostly yes.

challengerX · March 26, 2015, 02:14:35 PM

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Azumarill · March 26, 2015, 02:23:13 PM

Abortion - strongly for
Affirmative Action - against
Animal Rights - strongly for
Barack Obama - he's ok
Border Fence - retarded
Capitalism - for
Civil Unions - for
Death Penality - strongly against
Drug Legalisation - strongly for
Electoral College - against
Environmental Protection - strongly for
Estate or Inheritance Tax - against
European Union - no opinion
Euthanasia - for
Federal Reserve - for
Flat Tax - no opinion
Free Trade - for
Gay Marriage - for
Global Warming is caused by humans - this is a loaded question. no opinion.
Globalisation - for
Gold Standard - against
Gun Rights - strongly for regulation
Homeschooling - can be good or bad depending on the context, no opinion.
Internet Censorship - strongly against.
2003 Iraq War - no opinion
Labour Unions - in their current state, against.
Legalised Prostitution - strongly for

Medicare and Medicaid - no opinion
Medical Marijuana - strongly for
Military Intervention - needs context, no opinion
Minimum Wage - no opinion
National Health Care - for
National Sales Tax - no opinion
Occupy Movement - no opinion
Progressive Tax - no opinion
Racial Profiling - strongly against
Redistribution of Wealth - against
Smoking Ban - strongly against
Socialism - in a limited capacity, for
Stimulus Spending - no opinion
Term Limits - strongly for
Torture - strongly against
United Nations - for
War in Afghanistan - no opinion
War on Terror - no opinion
Welfare - no opinion

Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 02:25:56 PM

Abortion - radically for
Affirmative Action - strongly against
Animal Rights - strongly for
Barack Obama - entirely indifferent
Border Fence - weakly against
Capitalism - radically against
Civil Unions - what about them?
Death Penality - radically for
Drug Legalisation - radically for
Electoral College - strongly against
Environmental Protection - strongly for
Estate or Inheritance Tax - strongly against
European Union - largely ignorant
Euthanasia - strongly for
Federal Reserve - ignorant
Flat Tax - largely ignorant
Free Trade - indifferent
Gay Marriage - strongly for
Global Warming is caused by humans - strongly agree
Globalisation - indifferent
Gold Standard - moderately against
Gun Rights - indifferent
Homeschooling - entirely indifferent
Internet Censorship - strongly against
2003 Iraq War - strongly against
Labour Unions - moderately for
Legalised Prostitution - weakly for
Medicare and Medicaid - strongly for
Medical Marijuana - strongly for
Military Intervention - strongly against
Minimum Wage - what about it?
National Health Care - strongly for
National Sales Tax - ignorant
Occupy Movement - moderately for
Progressive Tax - ignorant
Racial Profiling - strongly against
Redistribution of Wealth - ignorant
Smoking Ban - strongly against
Socialism - strongly for
Stimulus Spending - ignorant
Term Limits - strongly for
Torture - strongly against
United Nations - indifferent
War in Afghanistan - strongly against
War on Terror - strongly against
Welfare - moderately for

Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 02:41:51 PM

on civil unions:

i don't see how one could be "for" or "against" civil unions, as if there's some debate on their existence
i would like it, however, if either:

- there were no special rights/benefits for married couples
OR
- civil unions got the same special rights/benefits as married couples

if married couples received no tax breaks, etc. solely for being married, i wouldn't give a fuck either way about that shit

on abortion:

There's only one time when you should ever get an abortion:

When you're pregnant.

on minimum wage:

i'm for raising it and all

but if all that's going to do is raise the price of everything, i guess that's a losing battle
the question is, how do you prevent that from happening (assuming it would)

because the fact is, people don't make enough money--especially in that fledgling sector of the working class
and no external factors will change that fact

March 26, 2015, 02:43:29 PM

Abortion - for
Affirmative Action - strongly against
Animal Rights - for
Barack Obama - neutral
Border Fence - for
Capitalism - strongly for
Civil Unions - for
Death Penality - strongly against
Drug Legalisation - strongly for
Electoral College - for
Environmental Protection - strongly for
Estate or Inheritance Tax - strongly against
European Union - strongly against
Euthanasia - strongly for
Federal Reserve - neutral
Flat Tax - for
Free Trade - strongly for
Gay Marriage - strongly for
Global Warming is caused by humans - not really an opinion, more of a fact
Globalisation - against
Gold Standard - against
Gun Rights - heavy regulation on automatic & semi-automatic rifles, less strict otherwise
Homeschooling - for
Internet Censorship - strongly against.
2003 Iraq War - strongly against
Labour Unions - strongly for
Legalised Prostitution - strongly for
Medicare and Medicaid - we need some kind of socialized healthcare, but not these systems. Against.
Medical Marijuana - strongly against. It shouldn't be restricted to just those with medical problems.
Military Intervention - against, except in specific situations
Minimum Wage - for
National Health Care - for
National Sales Tax - against
Occupy Movement - against
Progressive Tax - against
Racial Profiling - strongly against
Redistribution of Wealth - neutral
Smoking Ban - strongly against
Socialism - for
Stimulus Spending - against
Term Limits - strongly for
Torture - strongly against
United Nations - in its current form, strongly against
War in Afghanistan - against
War on Terror - against
Welfare - against

Isara · March 26, 2015, 02:49:03 PM

Spoiler

Abortion - Pro
Affirmative Action -
Animal Rights - Against
Barack Obama - Neutral
Border Fence - Pro
Capitalism - Pro
Civil Unions - Pro
Death Penality - Pro
Drug Legalisation - Pro
Electoral College - Pro
Environmental Protection - Pro
Estate or Inheritance Tax - Pro
European Union - Pro
Euthanasia - Pro
Federal Reserve - Pro
Flat Tax - Pro
Free Trade - Pro
Gay Marriage - Neutral
Global Warming is caused by humans - No, by farting cows for sure.
Globalisation - Pro
Gold Standard - Neutral
Gun Rights - Pro
Homeschooling - Against
Internet Censorship - Agaomst
2003 Iraq War - Neutral
Labour Unions - Pro
Legalised Prostitution - Pro
Medicare and Medicaid - Pro
Medical Marijuana - Pro
Military Intervention - Pro
Minimum Wage - Pro
National Health Care - Pro
National Sales Tax - Pro
Occupy Movement - Against
Progressive Tax - Pro
Racial Profiling - Neutral
Redistribution of Wealth - Against
Smoking Ban - Pro
Socialism - Neutral
Stimulus Spending - Pro
Term Limits - Pro
Torture - Against
United Nations - Pro
War in Afghanistan - Pro
War on Terror - Good luck with that
Welfare - Pro

🍁 Aria 🔮 · March 26, 2015, 03:28:11 PM

Abortion - weakly for
Affirmative Action - against
Animal Rights - strongly for
Barack Obama - neutral
Border Fence - against
Capitalism - for
Civil Unions - neutral
Death Penality - strongly against
Drug Legalisation - weakly for
Electoral College - neutral
Environmental Protection - strongly for
Estate or Inheritance Tax - strongly against
European Union - against
Euthanasia - strongly for
Federal Reserve - strongly for
Flat Tax - against
Free Trade - for
Gay Marriage - strongly for
Global Warming is caused by humans - strongly for
Globalisation - strongly for
Gold Standard - strongly against
Gun Rights - for
Homeschooling - for
Internet Censorship - strongly against
2003 Iraq War - weakly for
Labour Unions - strongly for
Legalised Prostitution - against
Medicare and Medicaid - for
Medical Marijuana - strongly for
Military Intervention - weakly for
Minimum Wage - neutral
National Health Care - for
National Sales Tax - for
Occupy Movement - for
Progressive Tax - strongly for
Racial Profiling - strongly against
Redistribution of Wealth - against
Smoking Ban - against
Socialism - weakly for
Stimulus Spending - neutral
Term Limits - strongly for
Torture - weakly against
United Nations - weakly for
War in Afghanistan - weakly against
War on Terror - strongly against
Welfare - neutral

challengerX · March 26, 2015, 03:34:40 PM

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Isara · March 26, 2015, 03:37:58 PM

Only humans are capable of having rights because they are the only ones that possess conscience, form societies and generally work. However, I think that unnecessary abuse or maltreatment of animals shouldn't be there. Animals should be respected as living beings, but that shouldn't be treated as a right for an animal.

Quote from: challengerX on March 26, 2015, 03:34:40 PM

Why are you against animal rights, exactly?

Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 03:39:31 PM

Quote from: Isara on March 26, 2015, 03:37:58 PM

However, I think that unnecessary abuse or maltreatment of animals shouldn't be there. Animals should be respected as living beings, but that shouldn't be treated as a right for an animal.

then what should it be treated as

seems like a semantic distinction

challengerX · March 26, 2015, 03:41:20 PM

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More Than Mortal · March 26, 2015, 03:47:02 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 26, 2015, 03:41:20 PM

Is there "necessary abuse" in your mind

How the fuck else would my dog learn not to shit on the carpet if I didn't break his legs every once in a while?

Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 03:47:55 PM

also, by denying animal "consciousness", are you denying animal sentience?
because that would constitute outright ignorance

Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 03:49:55 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 26, 2015, 03:41:20 PM

What the fuck is "unnecessary abuse"? Is there "necessary abuse" in your mind or did you just word this wrong?

i think "unnecessary abuse" functions as a term, simply because "necessary abuse" is an oxymoron

because no abuse is necessary--that's why it's called abuse

challengerX · March 26, 2015, 03:59:39 PM

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Verbatim · March 26, 2015, 04:02:48 PM

not necessarily, it's just a slight redundancy
i would chalk it up to a force of habit

Azumarill · March 26, 2015, 04:11:03 PM

Quote from: Isara on March 26, 2015, 03:37:58 PM

Only humans are capable of having rights because they are the only ones that possess conscience, form societies and generally work.

wait thats not true, many animal species form societies and are capable of complex communication and even commerce

http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/monkey_rhesus

ΚΑΤΑΝΑΛΩΤΗΣ · March 26, 2015, 04:18:03 PM

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Mattie G Indahouse · March 26, 2015, 04:43:19 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 26, 2015, 01:37:19 PM

Environmental Protection - weakly for

Why are you against protecting the only planet you have to live on? Since when was contaminated water, habitat destruction and animals going near extinct by habitat lose a good thing?

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More Than Mortal · March 26, 2015, 05:15:36 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on March 26, 2015, 04:43:19 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 26, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
Environmental Protection - weakly for
Why are you against protecting the only planet you have to live on? Since when was contaminated water, habitat destruction and animals going near extinct by habitat lose a good thing?

"Weakly for"

HOLY SHIT MAN HURRR DURRRR WHY DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE! NEVER MIND THE POSSIBLE NUANCE OF YOUR POSITION, YOU WANT WATER TO BE CONTAMINATED!!111!!!

Holy shit, dude.

Mad Max · March 26, 2015, 05:19:46 PM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 26, 2015, 05:15:36 PM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on March 26, 2015, 04:43:19 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 26, 2015, 01:37:19 PM
Environmental Protection - weakly for
Why are you against protecting the only planet you have to live on? Since when was contaminated water, habitat destruction and animals going near extinct by habitat lose a good thing?
"Weakly for"

HOLY SHIT MAN HURRR DURRRR WHY DO YOU WANT PEOPLE TO DIE! NEVER MIND THE POSSIBLE NUANCE OF YOUR POSITION, YOU WANT WATER TO BE CONTAMINATED!!111!!!

Holy shit, dude.

...so instead of responding like a douche, how about you explain your position?

rC · March 26, 2015, 05:21:27 PM

Quote from: challengerX on March 26, 2015, 02:14:35 PM

Gold Standard - LOL

omg I laughed waaaay too hard at this

More Than Mortal · March 26, 2015, 05:26:31 PM

Quote from: Mad Max on March 26, 2015, 05:19:46 PM

...so instead of responding like a douche, how about you explain your position?

I would, if he didn't ask like a fucking sperglord.

But since you asked nicely, I will answer. The people claiming we can reverse climate change by this point are largely deluded. The carbon emissions today are going to be the ones which begin to melt permafrost in 2040. Do I agree with minimal regulations to reduce things like pollution (say, a certain kind of filter on a car exhaust)? Yeah, sure. Do I agree that property rights should be protected, and tort law enforced, so we don't witness things like externalities and tragedies of the commons? Of course.

But, when it comes to the U.K. and its position globally with the big picture and carbon emissions, we're largely inconsequential. Pollution is a job primarily for the U.S., China and India. It comes down to the fact, really, that good economic policy is good environmental policy, and we shouldn't hamstring ourselves on the altar of Green fetishes and idealisms, and we need to begin promoting things like nuclear energy and GMOs within a system of free enterprise.

The Lord Slide Rule · March 26, 2015, 05:48:39 PM

Ah yes, my chance to demonstrate my political ignorance.

Abortion - weakly for, I find it repulsive however
Affirmative Action - what better way to fight discrimination than w/ more discrimination? No.
Animal Rights - to a reasonable extent
Barack Obama - I don't give two shits about the POTUS
Border Fence - that's fucking dumb, no
Capitalism - until something better comes along
Civil Unions - they're largely redundant by my understanding
Death Penality - against, if you don't mind explain why you are for.
Drug Legalisation - for, at least for now
Electoral College - dunno
Environmental Protection - for, as long as measures taken are reasonable and effective, no extreme green bullshit
Estate or Inheritance Tax -
European Union - dunno
Euthanasia - for
Federal Reserve -
Flat Tax -
Free Trade - strongly for
Gay Marriage - for
Global Warming is caused by humans - for, the science behind it is pretty straight forward, well at least concerning the physical properties that make CO2 a greenhouse gas
Globalisation - undecided
Gold Standard - no
Gun Rights - for, guns are cool
Homeschooling - depends on the parent, and program
Internet Censorship - strongly, immensely against
2003 Iraq War - muh, wmds. Why were we there again?
Labour Unions - the mob? lol, not sure
Legalised Prostitution - for
Medicare and Medicaid - dunno
Medical Marijuana - for
Military Intervention - intervention? like how? depends on the situation
Minimum Wage - undecided
National Health Care -
National Sales Tax -
Occupy Movement - It could have been interesting, had there been a real goal, less crazy people
Progressive Tax - me no understand economics
Racial Profiling - against
Redistribution of Wealth - against
Smoking Ban - strongly against
Socialism - against
Stimulus Spending - economics
Term Limits - yeah
Torture - against
United Nations - who?
War in Afghanistan - look at all the good it did, we should have hung around longer really, look what happened to Iraq
War on Terror - like the war on drugs, largely useless with no clear goal in site
Welfare - unsure