North Carolina Bathroom Bill

 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
i think people only think its weird cause everyone so used to the idea of separate bathrooms

but really its just a place where you go to do your business and then leave
Imagine being a young woman going to a public bathroom at night that could have 3 men in it.
Maybe she should carry.


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Cameras in bathrooms? Really?
why not
Because it would accomplish nothing. People can be assaulted in the stalls.
the cameras would see people getting dragged into the stalls
People will get assaulted on camera. It doesn't matter. Every 7/11 has working cameras yet they get robbed all the time.
at least you can use the footage as evidence


 
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People will get assaulted on camera. It doesn't matter. Every 7/11 has working cameras yet they get robbed all the time.
the point is, they're still better off with cameras than not, because you have video proof of the incident, and (hopefully) a good picture of the guy's face


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
i think people only think its weird cause everyone so used to the idea of separate bathrooms

but really its just a place where you go to do your business and then leave
Imagine being a young woman going to a public bathroom at night that could have 3 men in it.
Maybe she should carry.
Rapefugees stop at nothing
They stop with enough hollow points through em.


 
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unisex bathrooms wont be a problem in most places, universities, restaurants, malls, supermarkets, people just do what they need to and leave

anywhere where they would be would already have been a problem with current bathrooms anyway, if youre going to a bathroom alone thats so desolate or low security that anyone could do anything without fear you could just as well walk into a drug deal or a gang initiation

most people will probably not, and at this point its really upto the extablishment, compared to these places most bathrooms in the city will be "safe"

i can count the amount of times ive used truly public toilets on one hand and those were all during daylight

it would also probably be cheaper for the establishment to maintain
Last Edit: April 22, 2016, 07:40:31 PM by Pepsi


 
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i think people only think its weird cause everyone so used to the idea of separate bathrooms

but really its just a place where you go to do your business and then leave
Imagine being a young woman going to a public bathroom at night that could have 3 men in it.
ravensbourne had lots of cubicles not inside another bathroom, they were all just external cubicles and you walked through one door and there was the toilet, you didnt have to go through another door to go into the cubicle after and the sinks were just on the side
Right, but you said in general. Gender-less bathrooms are not a safe idea.
its not safe in the same way walking an alleyway at night is not safe
if you think there might be potential danger in a public unisex bathroom at night youd probably avoid going to it
there are people that are afraid of doing that now
Why should you have to avoid going to the bathroom like you avoid an alley at night?

You don't need to walk down the alley (well, sometimes you do), but you need to use the bathroom.

its likely there won't be any problems, you're thinking about 3 men who are all criminally inclined and are also probably friends being in this bathroom at the same time as a young woman

what kind of "public" toilet are you talking about where things like this could happen? if it were in a restaurant, supermarket or wherever you might be at night in a

if you were in the middle of nowhere using a truck stop toilet i would imagine you'd be kinda scared wherever you were, and you'd rather just pull up at the side of the road and pee there if you really needed to

nothing is stopping those same men from waiting just outside the women's toilets or just going into those toilets, if those men went to the toilets cause they wanted to do their business thats all they would do
You have a point, but I still don't like the idea.

People can call the cops on 3 men loitering outside a bathroom. If they're inside nobody would even know.

There's just too many variables.
if stalls had walls going from the floor to the ceiling, I see no reason why security cameras shouldn't be allowed where you wash your hands when it comes to stores and gas stations
Cameras in bathrooms? Really?
the doors go from the floor to the ceiling. the camera can't see in the stalls, all you'll see is the sinks.
if you're so worried about people loitering, there's your solution


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Regulations dictate against the stalls going from floor to ceiling in case a building needs to be cleared, so that's not an option.

Nevertheless, it doesn't matter. The bill is bigoted shit and the anti-LGBT notions were likely only included to pass the other items on the bill in the hopes of slipping them by only for the transphobic laws to be removed later.

Nevertheless, on people who support it (and note that I don't know if anyone here does, since I didn't read through the thread) - you have no reason to be behind it other than "ew, trans people are icky!"

-If a man would be willing to disguise himself as a woman to enter a bathroom and rape someone, he'd be willing to do so with or without trans-inclusive bills.

-Should there be separate rooms for homosexual people, as well? If men are going to dress as women to enter changing rooms and spy on them, aren't gay women just given free passes to do exactly that day-in, day-out?

-What stops these terrifying pedophile creeps from simply raping or spying on little boys? According to the biggest proprietors of these bills, then strange men will be showering with your poor little daughters, but they're already showering with your poor little sons.

-Trans individuals have abhorrently, disproportionately higher chances of abuse, both physical and sexual. Forcing a trans woman into the male bathroom will only heighten this chance, and will make everyone eons more uncomfortable than if she had simply been allowed to use the bathroom where she belongs.

-Do people really get raped every day where there exist unisex bathrooms?

-People seem so worried about "strange men" in the female bathroom, ignoring the fact that, with the transphobic bathroom laws, trans men would be forced to use female bathrooms and, considering the body-changing effects of testosterone, are often many times more masculine than many natural-born men.

-There are almost - possibly even none at all, as I only say the 'almost' to avoid a 'gotcha' type situation - zero cases of trans individuals raping, abusing, assaulting, or spying on members of their own gender when using washrooms.


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-People seem so worried about "strange men" in the female bathroom, ignoring the fact that, with the transphobic bathroom laws, trans men would be forced to use female bathrooms and, considering the body-changing effects of testosterone, are often many times more masculine than many natural-born men.
I shit you not, I was arguing with someone yesterday who said transmen wouldn't make women uncomfortable because they:

1. Have vaginas
2. Are attracted to men
3. Look like butch lesbians

The folks who support these bills are so ignorant on what trans people even are it's depressing.


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
-People seem so worried about "strange men" in the female bathroom, ignoring the fact that, with the transphobic bathroom laws, trans men would be forced to use female bathrooms and, considering the body-changing effects of testosterone, are often many times more masculine than many natural-born men.
I shit you not, I was arguing with someone yesterday who said transmen wouldn't make women uncomfortable because they:

1. Have vaginas
2. Are attracted to men
3. Look like butch lesbians

The folks who support these bills are so ignorant on what trans people even are it's depressing.
yeah I'm sure most people would be totally cool with this guy just walking into the women's restroom



 
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You do realize he's a female to male trans, right?

I'm just jumping in but it sounded from your post that you didn't.

catching up

Edit: Caught up, I still dunno if you were aware.
Last Edit: April 25, 2016, 02:29:25 AM by Luciana


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
You do realize he's a female to male trans, right?

I'm just jumping in but it sounded from your post that you didn't.

catching up

Edit: Caught up, I still dunno if you were aware.
er...who you asking?


 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
if it's me then I suggest you reread the post