Quote from: gats on June 25, 2016, 11:13:02 AM

A good counter to Russia it seems

Russia doesn't need a counter. They aren't being aggressive in the slightest. It is NATO that is being aggressive towards Russia.

Russia doesn't respect sovereign borders, they can't complain about NATO aggression.

Quote from: gats on June 27, 2016, 08:23:20 PM

Quote from: Alpha on June 27, 2016, 08:19:43 PM

Quote from: gats on June 25, 2016, 11:13:02 AM

A good counter to Russia it seems

Russia doesn't need a counter. They aren't being aggressive in the slightest. It is NATO that is being aggressive towards Russia.

Russia doesn't respect sovereign borders, they can't complain about NATO aggression.

What are you talking about? It is America that doesn't. Look at what we are doing in Syria, and have done in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Exactly look at that, becoming a rogue state leaves you open to external interference exactly why nations should join organisations like NATO. And what exactly has America done in Syria? You do know the best opposition force currently fighting ISIS in Syria is the American backed SDF? ISIS would be a lot stronger were it not for them.

That's a screamin deal for those mattresses, OP. Better jump on that!

Quote from: gats on June 27, 2016, 08:38:04 PM

Quote from: Alpha on June 27, 2016, 08:24:11 PM

Quote from: gats on June 27, 2016, 08:23:20 PM

Quote from: Alpha on June 27, 2016, 08:19:43 PM

Quote from: gats on June 25, 2016, 11:13:02 AM

A good counter to Russia it seems

Russia doesn't need a counter. They aren't being aggressive in the slightest. It is NATO that is being aggressive towards Russia.

Russia doesn't respect sovereign borders, they can't complain about NATO aggression.

What are you talking about? It is America that doesn't. Look at what we are doing in Syria, and have done in Afghanistan and Iraq.

Exactly look at that, becoming a rogue state leaves you open to external interference exactly why nations should join organisations like NATO. And what exactly has America done in Syria? You do know the best opposition force currently fighting ISIS in Syria is the American backed SDF? ISIS would be a lot stronger were it not for them.

We're supporting these "moderate rebels". This 3 way war in Syria only helps Isis. If the rebels weren't fighting Assad and making his government weaker, there would be a stronger opposition to ISIS. And we have had a military presence through bombing runs in Syria for awhile.

The SDF is largely a Marxist Anarchist group. The US supplied some material to terror groups indirectly but it's largely Gulf countries and Turkey providing support. ISIS is also the weakest it's been so far they're not really much of a concern on the battlefield anymore they will fall just a matter of when, we should be more afraid of lone Wolf supporters and infiltrators through refugees.