More lawsuits. Now in immigration flavor.

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/govbeat/wp/2014/11/21/the-sheriff-of-maricopa-county-ariz-has-already-filed-a-lawsuit-against-obama-over-immigration/
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Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio filed a lawsuit Thursday in a U.S. District Court against President Obama over his executive action on immigration.

In the complaint, Arpaio calls the executive action and the 2012 Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals “unconstitutional abuses of the President’s role in our nation’s constitutional architecture and exceed the power of the President within the U.S. Constitution.”

“The President cannot simply announce sweeping new rules and implement them by giving a speech,” the complaint reads.

The suit was also filed against Homeland Security Secretary Jeh Johnson, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services Director Leon Rodriquez, and U.S. Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr.

Both Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer (R) and Gov.-elect Doug Ducey (R) released statements Thursday voicing their opposition to Obama’s executive action.
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws


 
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws

Two things.

First, as the man said in his goddamn speech (In much nicer terms):

"Yo, Congress! You've been trying to fix this issue for twenty years but because you're fucking idiots, you refuse to do a damn thing! Therefore, I am passing these executive orders, which clarify deportation laws and who we will be deporting, until you idiots get your shit together and decide to pass a damn solution!"

Second, let's take a look at the explanation as to what executive orders do:

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executive orders have significant influence over the internal affairs of government, deciding how and to what degree laws will be enforced, dealing with emergencies, waging war, and in general fine policy choices in the implementation of broad statutes.

There are dozens of laws on deportation. These executive order clarify to what degree they will be applied - namely, that this certain subsection of immigrants (Those who have been here five years, have children that are permanent residents, pass a background check, and pay taxes), will be shielded.

He IS NOT saying "Hey, Mexico! Open borders!"


 
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Criticise his point properly or don't do it at all.

Save shit like that for the flood.
Last Edit: November 21, 2014, 06:43:00 PM by Mr Psychologist


 
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws
Not to derail the thread, but is there some sort of reason you think it's appropriate to have a picture of Osama Bin Laden as your avatar? Is the death of 3,000 Americans funny to you? Was 9/11 a joyous day for you?

Show some god damn respect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
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Standing up for what's right in this forum is like telling a kid to clean his room. You're all a bunch of fuckin kids with barely half a brain functioning caring more about how others perceive you than being yourselves. Grow up.
Is Kinder using an edgelord avatar hurting anybody? I mean, shit, sometimes we have Nazi avatars. I really don't see the problem. I don't see much of a point, either, but I don't see a point in half of the dumb shit Kinder does.


 
 
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws
Not to derail the thread, but is there some sort of reason you think it's appropriate to have a picture of Osama Bin Laden as your avatar? Is the death of 3,000 Americans funny to you? Was 9/11 a joyous day for you?

Show some god damn respect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Standing up for what's right in this forum is like telling a kid to clean his room. You're all a bunch of fuckin kids with barely half a brain functioning caring more about how others perceive you than being yourselves. Grow up.
Is Kinder using an edgelord avatar hurting anybody? I mean, shit, sometimes we have Nazi avatars. I really don't see the problem. I don't see much of a point, either, but I don't see a point in half of the dumb shit Kinder does.

Much better.

Keep this civil people, I'd quite like to go to sleep soon so unless I can fob this off onto someone else the minute it goes nasty I'm going to get harsh <_____________<


 
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws
Not to derail the thread, but is there some sort of reason you think it's appropriate to have a picture of Osama Bin Laden as your avatar? Is the death of 3,000 Americans funny to you? Was 9/11 a joyous day for you?

Show some god damn respect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Standing up for what's right in this forum is like telling a kid to clean his room. You're all a bunch of fuckin kids with barely half a brain functioning caring more about how others perceive you than being yourselves. Grow up.
Is Kinder using an edgelord avatar hurting anybody? I mean, shit, sometimes we have Nazi avatars. I really don't see the problem. I don't see much of a point, either, but I don't see a point in half of the dumb shit Kinder does.
Yes, it's fucking stupid and makes us look bad. Same with the Nazi shit.

Oh but wait, I'm just mad right? Yeah motherfuckers, I'm mad. I have some fucking passion when I speak and I actually care about shit. I don't fucking go through life zoned out like a fucking crack zombie.
chill mang, this the internet.

I see what you mean about making us look bad, and all, but if you really want us not to look bad, you also have to get rid of words like "faggot". And that just ain't happening.


 
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws
Not to derail the thread, but is there some sort of reason you think it's appropriate to have a picture of Osama Bin Laden as your avatar? Is the death of 3,000 Americans funny to you? Was 9/11 a joyous day for you?

Show some god damn respect. You should be ashamed of yourself.
waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Standing up for what's right in this forum is like telling a kid to clean his room. You're all a bunch of fuckin kids with barely half a brain functioning caring more about how others perceive you than being yourselves. Grow up.
Is Kinder using an edgelord avatar hurting anybody? I mean, shit, sometimes we have Nazi avatars. I really don't see the problem. I don't see much of a point, either, but I don't see a point in half of the dumb shit Kinder does.
Yes, it's fucking stupid and makes us look bad. Same with the Nazi shit.

Oh but wait, I'm just mad right? Yeah motherfuckers, I'm mad. I have some fucking passion when I speak and I actually care about shit. I don't fucking go through life zoned out like a fucking crack zombie.
Kinder isn't the face of the website or the community, having a picture of Bin Laden as his avatar isn't anything to get worked up over.


 
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"hurr durr it's the world wide web nothing we do here actually exist lel"
this is pretty much true.

Unless you have a dickload of personal information exposed on this site, this is a free place.


 
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Stop it now. All of you.

Back on topic, I'm not going to kill max's thread over a derailment squabble. Anyone who continues this is getting a nice old warning. Anyone who still doesn't get the hint is going to see that turn into a lite ban.

I'm tired and grouchy as fuck, so don't test me <_<


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Are you actually unable to read my post?
Or did you think I was kidding?
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Downboated.
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Bravo. There is no Constitutional basis for this E.O nor is it relevant to his job as enforcer of the laws

Two things.

First, as the man said in his goddamn speech (In much nicer terms):

"Yo, Congress! You've been trying to fix this issue for twenty years but because you're fucking idiots, you refuse to do a damn thing! Therefore, I am passing these executive orders, which clarify deportation laws and who we will be deporting, until you idiots get your shit together and decide to pass a damn solution!"

Second, let's take a look at the explanation as to what executive orders do:

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executive orders have significant influence over the internal affairs of government, deciding how and to what degree laws will be enforced, dealing with emergencies, waging war, and in general fine policy choices in the implementation of broad statutes.

There are dozens of laws on deportation. These executive order clarify to what degree they will be applied - namely, that this certain subsection of immigrants (Those who have been here five years, have children that are permanent residents, pass a background check, and pay taxes), will be shielded.

He IS NOT saying "Hey, Mexico! Open borders!"
And Congress isn't exclusive to one political party. Since Reagan, when the issue started, there has been controls and mixes of both parties so you can't just blame one group of people on the subject

The E.O also grants, what, 5 million green cards. Show me Constitutional basis for this action.

No, he isn't say to Mexico to open the borders, but his actions on granting millions of people amnesty from federal crime makes people realize that they can keep doing this and in another decade, they will be granted such. Know why I say this? Because fucking Reagan granted amnesty yet here we are, having to do it again


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We always say to fight fire, you must use fire. This is wrong. Fighting fire with fire will leave scars and a new flame will rise. We must instead use water. It is the opposite of fire, it extinguishes the fire, it cools, it refreshes, it heals. We are made up of 70% water, we are not made up of 70% fire. Please practice what we truly are
Far as I see it, we, as a nation, should ignore executive orders. They are abused to the point were they are becoming as worthless and plentiful as the dollar.