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Alright bitches, let's have a good ol' God debate

 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
Quote from: Sir Apple on September 08, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Science is built up of theories, not facts.
You can't conflate the two.

Theories are, essentially, facts. The nature of empiricism, however, keeps us - and rightly so - from claiming any theory as absolute. What you mean by 'facts', I presume, are actually just observations. Which, disregarding the fact that they are subject to their own issues of validity, can't even begin to be compared to theories.

 
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I neither fear, nor despise.
I'm just going to leave this here for you guys to play with.
*drops

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Quote from: Rocketman287 on September 08, 2014, 02:55:25 PM
It'd be incredibly useful if you actually demonstrated the point you're trying to make, and gave us the source for that picture.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet.

 
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Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 08, 2014, 02:53:52 PM
Quote from: Sir Apple on September 08, 2014, 02:51:42 PM
Science is built up of theories, not facts.
You can't conflate the two.

Theories are, essentially, facts. The nature of empiricism, however, keeps us - and rightly so - from claiming any theory as absolute. What you mean by 'facts', I presume, are actually just observations. Which, disregarding the fact that they are subject to their own issues of validity, can't even begin to be compared to theories.


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emigrate or degenerate. the choice is yours

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Quote from: Madman Mordo on September 08, 2014, 03:51:22 PM

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When is he not?

 
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"A time is coming when men will go mad, and when they see someone who is not mad, they will attack him saying, 'You are mad, you are not like us'."
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i'm not agnostic

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Ya'll mother fucker need Jesus

 
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 08, 2014, 01:14:28 AM
Better question: if God loves everyone unconditionally, why even invent a place like Hell?
Why do parents put you in the corner for time out as a child, because children don't listen to just what you tell them to do.

 
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Hmm...
Quote from: Flee on September 08, 2014, 04:37:38 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 08, 2014, 02:56:44 PM
Quote from: Rocketman287 on September 08, 2014, 02:55:25 PM
It'd be incredibly useful if you actually demonstrated the point you're trying to make, and gave us the source for that picture.

You can't believe everything you read on the internet.
The point he's trying to make is that the accuracy of copies of the New Testament is supposedly far greater than other greek writings, hereby (probably) implying that it had to be true, that the tales of the bible are not just fairy tales and that it truly is the word of god.

Unfortunately, the main "sources" to back this up are extremely biased and pro-christian "studies" that date back several decades and compare obscure works by greek authors older than the bible to the new testament as if that somehow conveys anything about biblical accuracy. I've done a bit of reading and haven't found any mention of this chart on websites other than the likes of "thechristiantruth.com".

Simply put, it's in all likelihood nothing but bias and bullshit, but even if it isn't, it's still completely pointless.
It's not proof of God, even if it is a true statistic. It's just proof that the Bible was valued more than the others at that time (again, assuming it's an accurate statistic).

 
 
 
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"flaming nipple chops"-Your host, the man they call Ghost.

To say, 'nothing is true', is to realize that the foundations of society are fragile, and that we must be the shepherds of our own civilization. To say, 'everything is permitted', is to understand that we are the architects of our actions, and that we must live with their consequences, whether glorious or tragic.
Quote from: TrussingDoor on September 08, 2014, 09:39:04 PM
Quote from: Assassin 11D7 on September 08, 2014, 09:32:27 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 08, 2014, 01:14:28 AM
Better question: if God loves everyone unconditionally, why even invent a place like Hell?
Why do parents put you in the corner for time out as a child, because children don't listen to just what you tell them to do.
nigger did you just compare eternal damnation to parents putting a child in time-out?
I personally don't believe in hell, but since you're all asking why, I decided to try and answer it.

I mean, do you know for sure that this hell is eternal for all who enter it? As I recall, in the New Testament Jesus went to hell and brought up all those that were in it before he died. It would seem a bit silly if he decided everyone else after he died wouldn't get to leave, simply because they didn't die early enough.

 
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