Quote from: PSU on October 13, 2014, 09:09:35 AMI really don't understand why you guys just shut down people who don't believe in evolution or don't hold it as 100% fact. Saying "this is serious" is fracking stupid. If you can't handle someone elses opinion, you are intolerant.Hey man, if you want to deny facts that's your problem. There's nothing intolerant when we're dealing with facts and not opinions. Again, you're more than welcome to be ignorant, but don't expect us to respect or admire your ignorance, and don't percieve us telling you you're wrong as intolerance when we aren't dealing with opinions or beliefs.
I really don't understand why you guys just shut down people who don't believe in evolution or don't hold it as 100% fact. Saying "this is serious" is fracking stupid. If you can't handle someone elses opinion, you are intolerant.
Quote from: PSU on October 13, 2014, 09:17:52 AMAnd for the record I agree completely with evolution. Just saying its kind of fracked up to dismiss someones opinion by saying "LOL THIS IS SERIOUS LOL"So you're playing devil's advocate?Point is it's fact. A scientific theory is not like a regular theory. Gravity is also considered a theory. Coming in here and saying it's bogus is just dumb. And I'm saying that to SecondClass.
And for the record I agree completely with evolution. Just saying its kind of fracked up to dismiss someones opinion by saying "LOL THIS IS SERIOUS LOL"
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 13, 2014, 12:15:21 AMQuote from: SecondClass on October 13, 2014, 12:14:49 AMevolution hasn't even been proven yetThis is Serious. No need for that bullshit here.It's called a "theory" for a reason. Can't say that's not serious when it's in the name.
Quote from: SecondClass on October 13, 2014, 12:14:49 AMevolution hasn't even been proven yetThis is Serious. No need for that bullshit here.
evolution hasn't even been proven yet
The defining characteristic of all scientific knowledge, including theories, is the ability to make falsifiable or testable predictions. The relevance and specificity of those predictions determine how potentially useful the theory is. A would-be theory that makes no observable predictions is not a scientific theory at all. Predictions not sufficiently specific to be tested are similarly not useful. In both cases, the term "theory" is not applicable.A body of descriptions of knowledge is usually only called a theory if it fulfills the following criteria: It makes falsifiable predictions with consistent accuracy across a broad area of scientific inquiry (such as mechanics). It is well-supported by many independent strands of evidence, rather than a single foundation. This ensures that it is probably a good approximation, if not completely correct. It is consistent with pre-existing experimental results and at least as accurate in its predictions as are any pre-existing theories. It can be subjected to minor adaptations to account for new data that do not fit it perfectly, as they are discovered, thus increasing its predictive capability over time. It is among the most parsimonious explanations, economical in the use of proposed entities or explanatory steps. (See Occam's razor. Since there is no generally accepted objective definition of parsimony, this is not a strict criterion, but some theories are much less economical than others.)
Quote from: challengerX on October 13, 2014, 09:13:10 AMQuote from: PSU on October 13, 2014, 09:09:35 AMI really don't understand why you guys just shut down people who don't believe in evolution or don't hold it as 100% fact. Saying "this is serious" is fracking stupid. If you can't handle someone elses opinion, you are intolerant.Hey man, if you want to deny facts that's your problem. There's nothing intolerant when we're dealing with facts and not opinions. Again, you're more than welcome to be ignorant, but don't expect us to respect or admire your ignorance, and don't percieve us telling you you're wrong as intolerance when we aren't dealing with opinions or beliefs.But its not 100% fact.
But its not 100% fact.
Why is the UK so much higher
Man: looks like a primate, acts like a primate (sometimes), DNA similar to a primateChristians/other religions that deny evolution: not a primate.They just want to feel like we're all special.
Quote from: RomanGladiator on October 14, 2014, 11:28:04 AMMan: looks like a primate, acts like a primate (sometimes), DNA similar to a primateChristians/other religions that deny evolution: not a primate.They just want to feel like we're all special.Christianity doesn't deny evolution though..
Yes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.
Quote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:13:04 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?Yep some christians do pick and choose what he created.
I don't see how thats any of your business tho.
The Bible is a piece of literature and thus is open to interpretation. Anything can be taken as metaphor. While one person can take it literally, another can meld it to fit their own personal beliefs. It is a guideline, not a code of law.
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:15:54 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:14:14 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:13:04 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?Yep some christians do pick and choose what he created.Why? If you have the option to pick and choose what to believe from the Bible, why follow it at all?QuoteI don't see how thats any of your business tho.I shouldn't try to understand the beliefs of the people I share this world with?The Bible is a piece of literature and thus is open to interpretation. Anything can be taken as metaphor. While one person can take it literally, another can meld it to fit their own personal beliefs. It is a guideline, not a code of law.
Quote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:14:14 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:13:04 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?Yep some christians do pick and choose what he created.Why? If you have the option to pick and choose what to believe from the Bible, why follow it at all?QuoteI don't see how thats any of your business tho.I shouldn't try to understand the beliefs of the people I share this world with?
Quote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:49:57 PMQuote from: Iberian Husky on October 14, 2014, 12:41:37 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:15:54 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:14:14 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:13:04 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?Yep some christians do pick and choose what he created.Why? If you have the option to pick and choose what to believe from the Bible, why follow it at all?QuoteI don't see how thats any of your business tho.I shouldn't try to understand the beliefs of the people I share this world with?The Bible is a piece of literature and thus is open to interpretation. Anything can be taken as metaphor. While one person can take it literally, another can meld it to fit their own personal beliefs. It is a guideline, not a code of law.There's parts of the Bible that aren't open to interpretation. Like the existence of God. Or Jesus is the son of God. Are those metaphors, too?The existence of god can be interpreted as the Jewish god that just doesn't give a shit, and Jesus being the son of god can easily be taken as metaphor.
Quote from: Iberian Husky on October 14, 2014, 12:41:37 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:15:54 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:14:14 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:13:04 PMQuote from: PSU on October 14, 2014, 12:08:33 PMQuote from: Vincent Adultman on October 14, 2014, 12:00:03 PMYes it does. Christians follow the Bible, and Genesis clearly states that God created humans.The Bible says a lot of things doesn't mean we follow it 100%.Believing God created humans is a pretty big part of it all. If God didn't create humans, did he even create animals? Plants? Planet Earth? The universe?Are we picking and choosing what he created?Yep some christians do pick and choose what he created.Why? If you have the option to pick and choose what to believe from the Bible, why follow it at all?QuoteI don't see how thats any of your business tho.I shouldn't try to understand the beliefs of the people I share this world with?The Bible is a piece of literature and thus is open to interpretation. Anything can be taken as metaphor. While one person can take it literally, another can meld it to fit their own personal beliefs. It is a guideline, not a code of law.There's parts of the Bible that aren't open to interpretation. Like the existence of God. Or Jesus is the son of God. Are those metaphors, too?
Acceptance of evolution
