... and changes his stance: https://www.lifesitenews.com/static/medical-student-becomes-pro-life-after-seeing-babys-limbs-torn-off-in-sucti.html

Some time ago, I was sent this testimony from a medical student who preferred not to leave a name. He had just witnessed an abortion as part of his training. Deeply troubled, he wanted to tell someone. He was haunted by what he had seen.
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The student starts out by saying that he was firmly in the pro-choice camp before witnessing the abortion:

    To begin, I must say that until yesterday, Friday, July 2, 2004, I was strongly pro-choice. I am a pre-medical student, and being very scientific, I understood that the mass of cells that forms the fetal body is not often capable of survival before 24 weeks in the womb. I am also somewhat liberal, and I believed that every woman should have the right to choose what she did with her body and one that could potentially be growing inside of her.

The student had heard the pro-choice movement’s slogans. He took them at face value, believing that the unborn baby was “a mass of cells” and not an individual human being. He felt that a woman “had the right to control her body” and did not sympathize with the tiny baby inside her. He did not believe in the child’s humanity or right to life.

Then he took the opportunity to see an abortion performed. Because of his pro-choice beliefs, he did not expect to be disturbed by anything he would see:

    This summer, I was accepted into a pre-medical program in NYC in which we are allowed to shadow doctors and see all sorts of medical procedures. When given the opportunity to see an abortion, I did not hesitate to accept the offer. It was something new, edgy, and exciting that I had never seen.

He then describes exactly what he witnessed in the operating room:

    When I entered the operating room, it felt like any other I had ever been in. On the table in front of me, I saw a woman, legs up as if delivering a child although she was asleep. Next to her was a tray of instruments for the abortion and a vacuum machine for suctioning the fetal tissues from the uterus. The doctors put on their gowns and masks and the procedure began. The cervix was held open with a crude metal instrument and a large transparent tube was stuck inside of the woman. Within a matter of seconds, the machine’s motor was engaged and blood, tissue, and tiny organs were pulled out of their environment into a filter. A minute later, the vacuum choked to a halt. The tube was removed, and stuck to the end was a small body and a head attached haphazardly to it, what was formed of the neck snapped. The ribs had formed with a thin skin covering them, the eyes had formed, and the inner organs had begun to function. The tiny heart of the fetus, obviously a little boy, had just stopped — forever. The vacuum filter was opened, and the tiny arms and legs that had been torn off of the fetus were accounted for. The fingers and toes had the beginnings of their nails on them. The doctors, proud of their work, reassembled the body to show me. Tears welled up in my eyes as they removed the baby boy from the table and shoved his body into a container for disposal.

Face it, abortion is wrong. And if you still feel it's okay after reading this, you're a cold, heartless human being and should be ashamed.

Holy shit. I was pro-life before, but damn. This is even more screwed up than I had imagined.

what a pussy

How's that? He was effected by witnessing a horrific death of a person.

it's like someone saying, "i love spiders, they help our environment by killing all sorts of nuisances like flies and mosquitoes"

and then turning right around after seeing a spider, saying "OKAY, NEVER MIND, FUCK SPIDERS"

Meh... I've seen things die before.

Meh... I've seen things die before.

Stepping on ants doesn't count.

we shouldn't be swayed by emotional appeals, no

unless appealing to emotions is actually logical
in this case, it is not

it's an easy argument for ME to make, in particular, because i believe bringing life into existence is wrong
so, in my opinion, abortion should be mandatory

we shouldn't be swayed by emotional appeals, no

unless appealing to emotions is actually logical
in this case, it is not

it's an easy argument for ME to make, in particular, because i believe bringing life into existence is wrong
so, in my opinion, abortion should be mandatory

And thus you invalidate your own opinion. Too much bias.

And thus you invalidate your own opinion. Too much bias.

or i'm just consistent with my beliefs

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 19, 2015, 09:28:24 PM

And why is bringing life into existence wrong?

why create something that doesn't need to exist, if all it's going to do in the grand scheme is consume, suffer, consume, suffer, consume, suffer, consume, suffer, and then die?

You only think life is like that because you're an impotent loser who's never done anything nice before and you just convince yourself that you're special and are "resisting" the norm despite the fact that everyone else simply thinks that you're a fucking moron.

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 19, 2015, 09:34:37 PM

You only think life is like that because you're an impotent loser who's never done anything nice before and you just convince yourself that you're special and are "resisting" the norm despite the fact that everyone else simply thinks that you're a fucking moron.

cool

Not even going to deny what I said?

Okay. Guess I hit the nail on the head then.

LOOOOOOL

And how many pro-lifers changed their stance after a pregnancy scare?

"Someone somewhere changed his viewpoint because of what he saw"

Okay? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Abortion is always going to be a thing, whether it's legalised or not. Hell, the removal of the fetus can be traced back to Ancient Egypt.

Even if it so deeply offends your delicate sensibilities, the lesser of two evils at this point is to maintain the legality of safe, consensual and medically sound abortions.

Are you ever happy?

bursts

So, you'd rid a being of the chance for happiness, on the assumption that it's only ever going to amount to being a chronically depressed blob of shit?

it's not an assumption; it will happen
that's been the process for all 100 billion humans thus far

even then, it's still probably not okay to gamble with another sentient being's welfare
because sure, maybe your kid will get lucky and have an awesome life

but maybe he won't

and that mere possibility alone should give you pause
you should think, "hmm, maybe we are being a little too reckless about this procreation thing"