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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.

 
 
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Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Hanging is cheaper for the taxpayer.

 
 
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Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
So would you agree that any and all murderers that have irrefutable physical evidence (non-circumstantial) against them should be executed immediately?
No.

Only the incurably psychopathic.

 
 
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Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.

 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:58:23 PM
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Hanging is cheaper for the taxpayer.
Be that as they may, I still think it's better to go the more humane route to have minimal suffering.
Bam, lights out.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 14, 2014, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.

 
 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.

 
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Quote from: SoporificSlash on September 14, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
I have to disagree. If someone takes a life why do they deserve to keep theirs?
Because the judicial system can't be atomistic. If you have a chance to reform a person, you should do it purely on utilitarian grounds. Most murders are crimes of passion or "necessity".

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 14, 2014, 08:05:11 PM
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 08:02:13 PM
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on September 14, 2014, 08:00:43 PM
Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 07:56:51 PM
Quote from: Meta Cognition on September 14, 2014, 07:55:47 PM
Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.
Regardless. No matter the method, there's still going to be an impact on the people doing the executions, unless they're properly conditioned for the job.

 
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I'll support it at VERY heinous crimes. I'm talking about mass-murder, serial killing, terrorist attacks; that sort of stuff, but only if  DNA and forensics prove without a doubt that the person in question is guilty.

Although if the prison system were to change and act more like Russian prisons, then I'd rather have them serve time than die because that would be a far worse experience than death. Russian prisons basically have everybody on 23 hour lockdown with no way for inmates to mingle like in American prisons, meet new people, and extend their criminal enterprises. That's what we fucking need here, none of this liberal rehab B.S

 
 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.
Regardless. No matter the method, there's still going to be an impact on the people doing the executions, unless they're properly conditioned for the job.
You're not wrong, which is why I feel that (since the death penalty obviously isn't going away anytime soon) we need to detach human interaction from the process as much as possible.

 
 
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
How is hooking someone up to an electric chair any different?
What about soldiers at war? Psychological impact is inevitable no matter what.
The chair is just barbaric and shouldn't be considered anymore by anyone.
Regardless. No matter the method, there's still going to be an impact on the people doing the executions, unless they're properly conditioned for the job.
You're not wrong, which is why I feel that (since the death penalty obviously isn't going away anytime soon) we need to detach human interaction from the process as much as possible.
Well that is entirely possible seeing as we have the technology. I'm certainly not opposed to the idea of robotics handling the procedures, though there would need to be human supervision regardless.

 
 
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The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.

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A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Say Hitler was captured.
Should taxpayers should have to pay for Hitler to be locked up for the rest of his lifetime?

 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person

 
 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Quote from: Nuka on September 14, 2014, 08:17:44 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Say Hitler was captured.
Should taxpayers should have to pay for Hitler to be locked up for the rest of his lifetime?
Yes. Though prisoners in general shouldn't just sit around all day, they should be forced to work for their free room and board.

 
 
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person
Jihadists have no conscience, Kinder. If they did, they clearly wouldn't be running around the middle east the way they are.
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We knew the world would not be the same.
A few people laughed, a few people cried, most people were silent.
I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita.
Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty
and to impress him takes on his multi-armed form and says,
"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.."
I suppose we all thought that one way or another.
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Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Rehab is a giant waste of money. The public shouldn't have to pay for a prisoner to live. Especially the state they get to live in. Nowadays prisoners live in pretty damn good conditions.
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Yes, for crimes against children in which there is absolute and irrefutable evidence.

No. Rehabilitation is the single best option for society. Some people, however, are immune to rehabilitation.

Hanging is the only proper form of capital punishment.
I think a quick bullet to the head is better. Less suffering.
Pretty sure we removed firing squads because of the psychological impact that has on the men pulling the trigger.
Tell that to the Taliban and their public executions at the Ghazi Stadium. Apparently the Taliban would tie up a criminal at a post or whatever, set up some old Soviet machine guns, and let the family of the dead victim rain down fire on the tied up person
Jihadists have no conscience, Kinder. If they did, they clearly wouldn't be running around the middle east the way they are.
Yeah, but they just had regular families come and pull the trigger multiple times. There's no psychological effects when somebody wants revenge

 
 
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Arguable, especially on the grounds of feeding revenge itself.

 
 
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Quote from: SoporificSlash on September 14, 2014, 08:21:21 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on September 14, 2014, 08:14:50 PM
The death penalty is never justified. I don't care if we captured Hitler, there's never an excuse for government-mandated murder.
Rehab is a giant waste of money. The public shouldn't have to pay for a prisoner to live. Especially the state they get to live in. Nowadays prisoners live in pretty damn good conditions.
I'd rather waste all of our money than have our government be one step closer to complete immorality. I do agree that prisons are way too cushy, though. Give prisoners a dirt floor, bread three times a day, and water. And make them work for that.
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