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If I die and give it all to my family via a will is that still in the wrong? I don't want to bother with society (and Uncle Sam will still get his tax cut out of it regardless of how I ask for it as a payment) and I shouldn't be obligated to be a part of it.

See, you're just trying to use "keeping to myself" as a safety blanket for selfish, repugnant behavior.

Yes, if you win it big at the lottery, you'd be an asshole to keep it all for yourself.


 
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If I die and give it all to my family via a will is that still in the wrong? I don't want to bother with society (and Uncle Sam will still get his tax cut out of it regardless of how I ask for it as a payment) and I shouldn't be obligated to be a part of it.
You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you don't want to be part of our society, then you shouldn't be able to use our legal tender. Because that's part of our society that you're leeching off of, yet you wouldn't care to contribute anything yourself? How parasitic.

And yeah, wills aren't quite good enough. You talk about this sense of entitlement towards the things you've "earned," but there are a few quandaries about that. 1.) if you won the lottery, you did not "earn" that prize. You just won it. And 2.) inheritance is not earned either. It's inherited.

Your principles seem rather inconsistent and ill-thought-out.


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You can't have your cake and eat it too. If you don't want to be part of our society, then you shouldn't be able to use our legal tender. Because that's part of our society that you're leeching off of, yet you wouldn't care to contribute anything yourself? How parasitic.

I'm obviously limited because of government intervention. For example I can't go out and cut down trees to build my own log cabin and live the rest of my life hunting because the government has made that illegal, they need their hands on everybody's lives. So when I speak of isolating myself from society, I mean it in the most legally possible method available.

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And yeah, wills aren't quite good enough. You talk about this sense of entitlement towards the things you've "earned," but there are a few quandaries about that. 1.) if you won the lottery, you did not "earn" that prize. You just won it. And 2.) inheritance is not earned either. It's inherited.

Your principles seem rather inconsistent and ill-thought-out.

What difference does it make? The money is mine now, I simply made that money by spending three bucks at a gas station or sat around and waited for rich royalty uncle from Nigeria to pass away. But at least its going to someone else to better their life, even after I die. You're just upset I'm not giving it to everybody in which I respond: 1. I am not legally obligated to do so. 2. For someone like you who strongly advocates for bigger government and more social programs, you sure do want me to drop everything into charity (which doesn't garner the same results in more social-safety net countries, just look at Europe in comparison to the US in terms of charitable donations).


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Just further diminishes Obama's already shitty legacy.

So much for a smooth transition.

Putin invades Crimea, no problem. Putin allegedly gives DNC emails to Assange, Sanctions!   


 
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I'm obviously limited because of government intervention. For example I can't go out and cut down trees to build my own log cabin and live the rest of my life hunting because the government has made that illegal, they need their hands on everybody's lives.
Oh man, what a drag. Big scary government preventing people from being fucking leeches. What a tough life.
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But at least its going to someone else to better their life, even after I die. You're just upset I'm not giving it to everybody in which I respond: 1. I am not legally obligated to do so.
I don't give a shit if you're not legally obligated to do so. You'd still be a bad person. You already are.
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2. For someone like you who strongly advocates for bigger government and more social programs, you sure do want me to drop everything into charity (which doesn't garner the same results in more social-safety net countries, just look at Europe in comparison to the US in terms of charitable donations).
...And? It's not about how effective it is.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
Uncle Sam will still get his tax cut out of it
that's why you do it abroad. i'm not an ancap type but inheritance tax is theft.
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Oh man, what a drag. Big scary government preventing people from being fucking leeches. What a tough life.

>Someone living in a house he made and eats the food he hunted for is leeching off others.

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I don't give a shit if you're not legally obligated to do so. You'd still be a bad person. You already are.

You were going to say that anyways. Your shitty guilt trip on what others should do with their money shows you're not in any way a better person. This isn't the first time you've made this argument. You never could explain how "It's mine, leave me alone." is somehow more selfish than "It's ours, give it up!"

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...And? It's not about how effective it is.

What's the point in charity if the government is big enough to provide the same services through a higher tax? I'm more than willing to give to charity because half the time they get shit done unlike The Fed. Charitable donation are things people CHOOSE to do because they want to help out of their own free volition, not something they're obligated to do so others don't look down on them, like what you're doing.


 
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Putin invades Crimea, no problem.

I've yet to see Trump condemn this.

Must be another thing to move on from and ignore.
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>Someone living in a house he made and eats the food he hunted for is leeching off others.
Yes, quite obviously.

Hunting is murder, for fucking starters. You're killing sentient organisms for your own benefit.

On a deeper level, you're not offering or contributing anything to society, because you selfishly don't want to be a part of it. It's not that you're "keeping to yourself." You're just lazy and worthless.
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You were going to say that anyways. Your shitty guilt trip on what others should do with their money shows you're not in any way a better person.
When did I say that I was a better person?
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his isn't the first time you've made this argument. You never could explain how "It's mine, leave me alone." is somehow more selfish than "It's ours, give it up!"
Because I shouldn't have to? Because it's something a first-grader could figure out?

You're literally telling me to explain to you why being selfish is more selfish than not being selfish.
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What's the point in charity if the government is big enough to provide the same services through a higher tax?
The principle of having done the right thing, regardless of how effective it is.
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Charitable donation are things people CHOOSE to do because they want to help out of their own free volition, not something they're obligated to do so others don't look down on them, like what you're doing.
Charity should be forced. Everyone should be forced to help each other. At gunpoint.
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inheritance tax is theft.
No.

If it is, then theft is good.


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Basically Obama, the CIA, NSA, FBI and 32 other intelligence agencies (I didn't know we had that many) confirm Russia influenced our election by leaking damning emails and fake news stories to tip the vote for Trump.
Those stinking commies! How dare they inform American voters?

They didn't do it for altruistic reasons. It's not like this showed everyone's dirty laundry. It just showed one side's. selectively revealing the truth is as bad as lying.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
inheritance tax is theft.
No.

If it is, then theft is good.
No, that income has already been taxed there's no need for it to be paid again.


 
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inheritance tax is theft.
No.

If it is, then theft is good.
No, that income has already been taxed there's no need for it to be paid again.
All of it should be taken.


 
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You will find out who you are not a thousand times, before you ever discover who you are. I hope you find peace in yourself and learn to love instead of hate.
inheritance tax is theft.
No.

If it is, then theft is good.
No, that income has already been taxed there's no need for it to be paid again.
All of it should be taken.
In a world where human culture isn't inherently materialistic I agree but

Realist >>>>>> Idealist


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Yes, quite obviously.

Hunting is murder, for fucking starters. You're killing sentient organisms for your own benefit.

On a deeper level, you're not offering or contributing anything to society, because you selfishly don't want to be a part of it. It's not that you're "keeping to yourself." You're just lazy and worthless.

Verb, this argument started because you said isolating yourself is not the same as being selfish. Now you're saying it is. I'm going to need clarification because you're being confusing with this.

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Charity should be forced. Everyone should be forced to help each other. At gunpoint.

So.....a tax?


 
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Verb, this argument started because you said isolating yourself is not the same as being selfish. Now you're saying it is. I'm going to need clarification because you're being confusing with this.
The things you keep to yourself should only be that which is just enough to sustain your health and existence so that you can continue being a good little helper for your society. Anything else is excessive, self-indulgent, and bad.
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So.....a tax?
Call it what you want. As if taxes aren't the best fucking thing ever.


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What if the person is living only able to provide the bare necessities for himself? Is he bad for not being able to contribute to the society?

The things you keep to yourself should only be that which is just enough to sustain your health and existence so that you can continue being a good little helper for your society. Anything else is excessive, self-indulgent, and bad.


 
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What if the person is living only able to provide the bare necessities for himself? Is he bad for not being able to contribute to the society?
Not necessarily.
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Verb, this argument started because you said isolating yourself is not the same as being selfish. Now you're saying it is. I'm going to need clarification because you're being confusing with this.
The things you keep to yourself should only be that which is just enough to sustain your health and existence so that you can continue being a good little helper for your society. Anything else is excessive, self-indulgent, and bad.
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So.....a tax?
Call it what you want. As if taxes aren't the best fucking thing ever.
That's communism.
Neat.


 
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Guardian is reporting that Russia plans to expel 35 U.S. diplomats in response.
They made it sound like they'd do much worse. Boo hoo.


 
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This is the way the world ends. Not with a bang but a whimper.
For example I can't go out and cut down trees
Why the fuck should people be allowed to cut down trees whenever they want?


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Why should a man be allowed to build his own home? He can just buy one. :^)

Why the fuck should people be allowed to cut down trees whenever they want?


 
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Guardian is reporting that Russia plans to expel 35 U.S. diplomats in response.
They made it sound like they'd do much worse. Boo hoo.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/12/30/europe/russia-us-diplomats-expulsion/index.html

So apparently he won't?


 
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For example I can't go out and cut down trees
Why the fuck should people be allowed to cut down trees whenever they want?
Or hunt.

Or anything he fucking said.

(It's because Ian has spent less than hour critically thinking about this subject.)


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Because a single person cutting down trees in the middle of nowhere will not affect literally anyone.

And he's not going to gather the strength of fending off against aggressive wildlife by eating berries and plants all day.

I'm sorry you yourself have never thought about the idea of man being in nature with nothing else and can only see life through modern civilization, but not everybody wants that dip shit.

Or hunt.

Or anything he fucking said.

(It's because Ian has spent less than hour critically thinking about this subject.)


 
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For example I can't go out and cut down trees
Why the fuck should people be allowed to cut down trees whenever they want?

I'll take Tragedy of the Commons for $1,000.


 
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Because a single person cutting down trees in the middle of nowhere will not affect literally anyone.
Oh, so it should be legal for you to do it but no one else?