2019-2020 Trump Impeachment Trial

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The House has approved two articles of Impeachment against President Trump.

Regardless of whether or not you hate/like him, I think this was an incredibly stupid move on the House's part. With the Republican Senate majority there is no way in Hell he is going to be convicted and removed from office. This was nothing more than a flex move for their reelection. Yes, his reputation will be tarnished but so will theirs when their constituents get angry at the fact that they failed to remove him from office.

Is he guilty? Probably. But looking back on history, Clinton was super guilty and I still think (after the fact) that he shouldn't have been impeached.

Anyways, general discussion on the matter here.


 
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objectively speaking, this is a wonderful thing to have happened

it won't amount to anything because we have a red senate

but it's a little victory for those of us with common decency
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couldn't have happened to a nicer guy


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The Democrats will be defeated like UK's labor party in 2020.


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I hope it happens, for the sake of the world.


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I hope it happens, for the sake of the world.
Rednecks have already said they will grab their guns if Trump is removed from office.


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I hope it happens, for the sake of the world.
Rednecks have already said they will grab their guns if Trump is removed from office.
With gazillo-billions that the US spends on pew-pews, I don't think dem rednecks stand a chance.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
I feel like this is just going to rally support from his base.

I don't think anyone expects the Republican led senate to actually remove him from office, so I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish here.


 
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I feel like this is just going to rally support from his base.

I don't think anyone expects the Republican led senate to actually remove him from office, so I'm not sure what they're trying to accomplish here.
we're trying to remove him from office, that's what

i know you said that already, but then in the same sentence, you said that you weren't sure, so i decided to remind you

imagine if we as a people only tried to accomplish things that were easy or expected
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It's not going to though. A 2/3 super majority in the Senate to remove him from office? That's not going to happen with McConnell running the show. The Democrats in the House even knew it wasn't going to happen, this was just political theater so they could keep their seats next year, little do they know it wont help them win the general election, none of their presidential front-liners are simply up to snuff.

I hope it happens, for the sake of the world.


 
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I'm not sure I understand the logic of criticizing impeachment when they can't guarantee removal (which has never happened). It seems pretty clear that Trump is just going to keep breaking rules; why not punish him for it? Frankly, the only people that seem to be putting on a show for the sake of their careers are the republicans.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
we're trying to remove him from office, that's what

i know you said that already, but then in the same sentence, you said that you weren't sure, so i decided to remind you

imagine if we as a people only tried to accomplish things that were easy or expected
Even though you know it's pretty much certain that the senate will not remove him so it's a vain attempt? I can understand trying it if you have nothing to lose, but it seems like Democrats do have a lot to lose in attempting this. There's no guarantee that voters they need to win over for 2020 are going to respond positively to this.

I don't think it's practical to make such a risky move in the hopes of what is essentially winning the political lottery.


 
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The precedent needed to be set. Too long has the executive branch done dumb shit with foreign powers and not been slapped for it. Even if the Senate does not convict and nothing comes of it for now, this is good.


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The man will be dead before the polls open, he’s way too fucking old. To be honest, a lot of them are, I can’t see many of them lasting four years in office, let alone eight.

bernie is and has been every step of the way


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The evidence is shady, and the timing is right on the wall to boot. If they were serious about wanting him removed they would have came up with these same articles back in 2017, or even last year. But doing this at the turn of an election year when all their candidates for the office aren’t massively well received, AND they failed to make a blue wave last election when the opposing party is supposed to make huge gains, AANNDD they don’t have anything to show for opposing him at every corner?

Also adding insult to injury is that not only is the Senate more than happy to take the impeachment articles (which Pelosi is delaying for....reasons) but they’re continuing to pass more federal judge appointments from Trump. They’re panicking because they can’t keep RBG on those clothes pins forever and it’s unlikely she’ll make it to 2024 (TBH she isn’t really even fit now) and will lose the courts for an entire generation.

I'm not sure I understand the logic of criticizing impeachment when they can't guarantee removal (which has never happened). It seems pretty clear that Trump is just going to keep breaking rules; why not punish him for it? Frankly, the only people that seem to be putting on a show for the sake of their careers are the republicans.


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So I’m looking up why exactly Pelosi is delaying the sending of the articles. Supposedly she wants to confirm a fair trial in the Senate first? Can anyone confirm?

What counts as fair? Are we going to have to wait until AFTER the election before we even get a trial? This would be an even more foolish move.


 
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So I’m looking up why exactly Pelosi is delaying the sending of the articles. Supposedly she wants to confirm a fair trial in the Senate first? Can anyone confirm?

What counts as fair? Are we going to have to wait until AFTER the election before we even get a trial? This would be an even more foolish move.
that they'll actually hold trial and not just find some scheduling excuse to meme it out the window.


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If they were serious about wanting him removed they would have came up with these same articles back in 2017, or even last year.
What do you mean by this? The articles are based on evidence that came out this year. To my understanding, very few democrats were suggesting impeachment before the Mueller Report.


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They don’t need a scheduling excuse, even Senate Democrats don’t want to go through with this. The House Democrats have shot themselves in the foot.

that they'll actually hold trial and not just find some scheduling excuse to meme it out the window.


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So I’m looking up why exactly Pelosi is delaying the sending of the articles. Supposedly she wants to confirm a fair trial in the Senate first? Can anyone confirm?

What counts as fair? Are we going to have to wait until AFTER the election before we even get a trial? This would be an even more foolish move.
Maybe one where the Senate majority leader, who would play a large role in proceedings and has flatly said that he isn't even going to attempt to be fair or impartial, can't murder the trial in its crib?

If this was an easy process, then it wouldn't be so damn important. It must be done BECAUSE it is hard. Now is already past when these flagrant abuses of power should have been answered, and they must be stopped before it is unstoppable. Doing nothing is tantamount to rolling over and dying.


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Maybe one where the Senate majority leader, who would play a large role in proceedings and has flatly said that he isn't even going to attempt to be fair or impartial, can't murder the trial in its crib?

Of course he's going to biased and unfair, there's absolutely no repercussions for him doing so. Is it right? Absolutely not, but the House is bluffing to him and he's calling their bluff to their face. There is no positive outcome for them. Either they send the articles now and it gets thrown out (and let's be honest, even with a fair trial it would never get a 2/3 vote anyways), OR they delay this entire debacle all the way to the election and they risk gambling their voter-base who were led on the promise that Trump would be removed from office; meanwhile Trump's voter-base doesn't change at all.

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If this was an easy process, then it wouldn't be so damn important. It must be done BECAUSE it is hard. Now is already past when these flagrant abuses of power should have been answered, and they must be stopped before it is unstoppable. Doing nothing is tantamount to rolling over and dying.

You can want him impeached, the house impeached him, everyone in the country could want him gone. That's not the problem, the problem is how they're doing it. Instead of playing political gambling when they have no good hands, they should focus on getting their candidates to parrot "where's the wall?" and "why isn't Mexico paying for it?" over and over again because THAT'S what's going to get Trump out of office the fastest.


 
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The man will be dead before the polls open, he’s way too fucking old. To be honest, a lot of them are, I can’t see many of them lasting four years in office, let alone eight.

bernie is and has been every step of the way
you're too old chud


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Honestly at this point, whatever happens happens.

I'm not going to vote for him a second time anyway. I'll be voting for myself instead. Not like my vote in 2016 did jack shit to start with anyway because the electoral college here in Commiefornia went to Hillary anyway.


 
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Honestly at this point, whatever happens happens.

I'm not going to vote for him a second time anyway. I'll be voting for myself instead. Not like my vote in 2016 did jack shit to start with anyway because the electoral college here in Commiefornia went to Hillary anyway.

Such a rebel.


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Honestly at this point, whatever happens happens.

I'm not going to vote for him a second time anyway. I'll be voting for myself instead. Not like my vote in 2016 did jack shit to start with anyway because the electoral college here in Commiefornia went to Hillary anyway.

Such a rebel.

Are you going to ban me?


 
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Honestly at this point, whatever happens happens.

I'm not going to vote for him a second time anyway. I'll be voting for myself instead. Not like my vote in 2016 did jack shit to start with anyway because the electoral college here in Commiefornia went to Hillary anyway.

Such a rebel.

Are you going to ban me?

Nah, I'm sipping wine and watching the gays on CNN


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Honestly at this point, whatever happens happens.

I'm not going to vote for him a second time anyway. I'll be voting for myself instead. Not like my vote in 2016 did jack shit to start with anyway because the electoral college here in Commiefornia went to Hillary anyway.

Such a rebel.

Are you going to ban me?

Nah, I'm sipping wine and watching the gays on CNN

I know you'd want to. I can feel your anger. Gives you focus! Makes you stronger.