It is simultaneously both a gun problem and an Islamic problem. Not sure why people are so adamant on establishing a moral dichotomy between the two.
No really guys, it's still guns
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 11:49:20 AMQuote from: Mordo on June 12, 2016, 11:46:31 AMI'm not sure what else needs to be clarified. The shooter is a Muslim and his motives are pretty transparent. What exactly do you expect is going to come to light here? That he was actually a Buddhist this whole time?That'd be shocking lol.No I'm just hearing conflicting reports is all. Plus at this point, I'm more sad that it happened like this.Links to the reports?
Quote from: Mordo on June 12, 2016, 11:46:31 AMI'm not sure what else needs to be clarified. The shooter is a Muslim and his motives are pretty transparent. What exactly do you expect is going to come to light here? That he was actually a Buddhist this whole time?That'd be shocking lol.No I'm just hearing conflicting reports is all. Plus at this point, I'm more sad that it happened like this.
I'm not sure what else needs to be clarified. The shooter is a Muslim and his motives are pretty transparent. What exactly do you expect is going to come to light here? That he was actually a Buddhist this whole time?
Totally a gun problem YouTube
Quote from: Casper on June 12, 2016, 01:02:29 PMTotally a gun problem YouTubeYou realize Christians here say the same stuff, right?
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:50:48 PMQuote from: Casper on June 12, 2016, 01:02:29 PMTotally a gun problem YouTubeYou realize Christians here say the same stuff, right?Stark difference being that gays aren't killed in the droves by the WBC.
Quote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:52:37 PMQuote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.Because we like our guns. We don't like Islam.
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 01:54:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:52:37 PMQuote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.Because we like our guns. We don't like Islam.That's stupid considering our guns kill more Americans per year than terrorism ever has against us.
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:55:22 PMQuote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 01:54:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:52:37 PMQuote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.Because we like our guns. We don't like Islam.That's stupid considering our guns kill more Americans per year than terrorism ever has against us. Disconnected urban youth with no visible future besides gang violence and an a shackling to an inescapable welfare scheme kill people. There's more firearms than people in my house. Not a one has killed anybody.
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:55:22 PMQuote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 01:54:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:52:37 PMQuote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.Because we like our guns. We don't like Islam.That's stupid considering our guns kill more Americans per year than terrorism ever has against us. Disconnected urban youth with no visible future besides gang violence and a shackling to an inescapable welfare scheme kill people. There's more firearms than people in my house. Not a one has killed anybody.
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:50:48 PMQuote from: Casper on June 12, 2016, 01:02:29 PMTotally a gun problem YouTubeYou realize Christians here say the same stuff, right?So there are ten Christian countries that punish homosexuality with death and agree with it en masse?
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 01:59:22 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:55:22 PMQuote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 01:54:39 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:52:37 PMQuote from: Septy on June 12, 2016, 12:21:18 PMI find it odd how when mass shootings happen, nothing needs to change/we have a gun conversation and nothing changes, yet when someone does it for ISIS (or radical terrorism in general), suddenly we those same people saying not much needs to change WANT to take drastic action.Because we like our guns. We don't like Islam.That's stupid considering our guns kill more Americans per year than terrorism ever has against us. Disconnected urban youth with no visible future besides gang violence and an a shackling to an inescapable welfare scheme kill people. There's more firearms than people in my house. Not a one has killed anybody.Same here, and that's because not everyone is going to shoot to kill people. But what about all the other mass shootings across the country? I don't think all of them were what you just described.
One didn't happen and was a government plot.
If he pledged to ISIS since 2013, I'm wondering why they didn't stop this.
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:50:27 PMIf he pledged to ISIS since 2013, I'm wondering why they didn't stop this.because stupid fucking liberals want to coddle refugees and muslims.
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 02:06:46 PMOne didn't happen and was a government plot.Are you talking about Sandy Hook? You don't really believe that do you?
Quote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 02:08:41 PMQuote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 02:06:46 PMOne didn't happen and was a government plot.Are you talking about Sandy Hook? You don't really believe that do you?There are three crazy things I mostly believe in.Australian government carried out Port Arthur and blamed a mentally challenged manSandy Hook kids never existedRobert LaVoy Finicum was murdered by federal agents in Oregon. He was not cross-drawing a second handgun.
Quote from: Casper on June 12, 2016, 02:03:03 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 01:50:48 PMQuote from: Casper on June 12, 2016, 01:02:29 PMTotally a gun problem YouTubeYou realize Christians here say the same stuff, right?So there are ten Christian countries that punish homosexuality with death and agree with it en masse?No. I'm saying Christians in the US have said the same thing, so to bring up a video of an Islamic American saying the same stuff a Christian American would say, is rather silly. You'll hear no argument from me that almost every Middle Eastern country is barbaric. I personally think religion in general is quick to condemn anything that doesn't fit into their definition of "right".
Quote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 02:19:49 PMQuote from: Luciana on June 12, 2016, 02:08:41 PMQuote from: 卐RIGHT WING DAS SQUAD卐 on June 12, 2016, 02:06:46 PMOne didn't happen and was a government plot.Are you talking about Sandy Hook? You don't really believe that do you?There are three crazy things I mostly believe in.Australian government carried out Port Arthur and blamed a mentally challenged manSandy Hook kids never existedRobert LaVoy Finicum was murdered by federal agents in Oregon. He was not cross-drawing a second handgun.seeing as how nobody is with you on the sandy hook thing, it would seem a lot more productive to just assume it happened, if only for the sake of discussion--and then you can go back to being incorrect when the discussion is overunless your goal is to trigger people or something
50 Dead, 53 Injured at Orlando LGBT Nightclub
