Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:20:26 PMExcept its not, because both are intended to prevent injury or illness. Checkmate.Did you just completely ignore the whole security-to-inconvenience ratio I mentioned earlier? If anybody's not refuting claims here, it is you. People have the right to their own beliefs, which will obviously result in their exercise of their own liberty and autonomy, but you have no right to your own facts. Beliefs based on obvious untruths aren't worth entertaining, at all, and I'll lose no sleep over it.
Except its not, because both are intended to prevent injury or illness. Checkmate.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYING
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice"
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYING
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illness
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.
but it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.
Until you get hit by a car on the sidewalk, then you'll wish you had the airbags, wouldn't you?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 06:18:44 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:17:06 PMAnd yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retardWhat? I'm using straw logic to demonstrate how your own straw logic is just that--straw logic. Getting a vaccine because you could get a preventable illness is qualitatively different to strapping airbags to yourself because you could get hit by a car and you fucking know it.Except its not, because both are intended to prevent injury or illness. Checkmate.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:17:06 PMAnd yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retardWhat? I'm using straw logic to demonstrate how your own straw logic is just that--straw logic. Getting a vaccine because you could get a preventable illness is qualitatively different to strapping airbags to yourself because you could get hit by a car and you fucking know it.
And yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retard
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:25:27 PMUntil you get hit by a car on the sidewalk, then you'll wish you had the airbags, wouldn't you?Not unless I end up brain-damaged and somehow think that would've been worth the pay-off. Let me ask you this: it's 1853 in England, do you support compulsory vaccines against smallpox?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:20:26 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 06:18:44 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:17:06 PMAnd yet still none of this refutes my claims. Yes, let's implement something even more tyrannical and drastic. Good job, retardWhat? I'm using straw logic to demonstrate how your own straw logic is just that--straw logic. Getting a vaccine because you could get a preventable illness is qualitatively different to strapping airbags to yourself because you could get hit by a car and you fucking know it.Except its not, because both are intended to prevent injury or illness. Checkmate.>shitposting in serious
Nope, if you contract it and die, then that's nature's way of telling you that you deserved to die. Only the strongest survive.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:29:34 PMNope, if you contract it and die, then that's nature's way of telling you that you deserved to die. Only the strongest survive.I thought you might be trolling; thanks for the confirmation.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:28:37 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:34:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:28:37 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:36:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:34:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:28:37 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.Takes two to tango.
Quote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:37:17 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:36:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:34:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:28:37 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.Takes two to tango.Twerk it bby
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:38:11 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:37:17 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:36:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:34:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:28:37 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:26:01 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:19:28 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:17:21 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:11:23 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:07:20 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:03:24 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:02:22 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:01:39 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 06:00:47 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:59:30 PMQuote from: Madman Mordo on March 02, 2015, 05:57:46 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 05:53:48 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 04:05:07 AMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:11:25 PMbut it's a shame that this essentially means many parents will be forced to give up their children's right to bodily autonomy.That's the stupidest fucking thing you've ever said. Your right to bodily autonomy doesn't extend to acting as a conduit for (deadly) illnesses.>Implying not getting a vaccination instantly means contracting a deadly illnessNo, but the chances of contracting one rises exponentially.>IMPLYINGI've got a better picture with scary numbers and sources if it makes you feel better."b-but muh pro choice">IMPLYINGare you going to address anything or are you just going to continue to fling ebid yamyam arrows at me?What's there to address? You linked some fancy dumb numbers that haven't refuted what I've said."hurr dueghfuer theyre just dumb numbers hurgh"No, it wasn't meant to be a refutation, I'm merely addressing your vacuous point. Yeah, no shit you're probably not going to catch a deadly disease the minute you don't get a vaccination. But the chances of you catching something later on in life that is more often than not, completely and effortlessly curable is astronomical.>HUUUUURRRR DURR u cud git sik latUr in lif SO WE SHUD furc peepul to get an PREOCEDUR agist DUR WIL LOLYou could get hit by a car on the sidewalk, should we force people to where airbags all over their bodies when walking down a sidewalk?That's not even a relevant analogy.You cannot contract deadly diseases from coming into contact with a vehicle. My child won't get infected from coming into contact with your vehicle because you never passed your MOT. Not to mention there are myriad laws in place to ensure the safety of vehicles anyway, given the relevant context. You know, like vehicular damage.Where the fuck on the autism spectrum do you fall under? You have to actually be Kinder tier to come up with a comparison like that.Except it's perfectly relevant and completely within the same context: to prevent injury or illness. Duh, use your comprehensive skills>Using Kinder as an insultNow I know I have you beat when you try to resort to calling me "kinder" or autistic. You're just mad you can't prove me wrong.Yeah, but it's not fucking necessary to plaster a car with airbags all over the interior of the car. We already have fucking safety procedures for vehicles in place that work perfectly fine. Viral pathogens however, are a bit more complicated because it only takes a couple people to break the heard immunity and infect those who genuinely cannot take vaccinations due to medical conditions. MUH PERSOWNAHL BULEEFS isn't a valid excuse because it can potentially infringe the safety of other people with actual common sense. Like I said, it's more anti choice to keep vaccinations optional than it is pro choice.Turn your fucking brain on.Dude, calm down your stupid levels, I know it's a hard concept to understand people's rights shouldn't be infringed but come ONI'm not talking about plastering airbags all over a car, I'm talking about someone walking on the sidewalk wearing them. How about you turn on your brain and learn to read?>"you missed the point of my retarded analogy. THIS is what my retarded analogy was trying to convey"Look, I personally don't care if you were trying to tell me that we should use airbags as our primary means of transportation. The point is that you're misunderstanding me and Meta due to these blithely ignorant delusions of free will and personal freedom. It's not freedom. At all. Grab a juicebox, and reread what we're trying to tell you.If you can't comprehend my point then that's not my problem.Takes two to tango.Twerk it bbyfuk off gook
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 11:11:03 PMQuote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:59:14 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.It's a public health issue, not a freedom issue. These people are a danger to those who cannot be vaccinated. I'm not speaking metaphorically.So is smoking, so is alcoholism, so is cocaine usage and marijuana.But reasonable people advocate for the legalization of these activities. Why?Because you have no right to dictate what I do with my body any more than I have the right to dictate what you do with yours.
Quote from: Arm The Mob on March 01, 2015, 10:59:14 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.It's a public health issue, not a freedom issue. These people are a danger to those who cannot be vaccinated. I'm not speaking metaphorically.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:57:37 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.I'd love to know what makes you think you, or any other person, has the right to dictate what goes into another person's body, especially considering you are a supporter of abortion rights.If you do not believe in bodily autonomy, I'm interested in knowing on what grounds you see abortion as justified.
Quote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:52:04 PMQuote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.Because you play up the "freedom of the body" bullshit when what you're really doing is promoting a public health risk and putting your child at risk of catching a disease we should be rid of by now if it weren't for people like you.
Quote from: Mad Max on March 01, 2015, 10:46:29 PMQuote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.Because I believe in freedom of the body?The government should have zero authority in saying you MUST put something inside your body. That just seems crazy to me. And if you deny my child entrance to the public schools that I pay for? You're not getting my tax dollars.
Quote from: PSU on March 01, 2015, 10:30:13 PMlol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.Of course you don't like it. You're one of the fucks who is part of the problem.
lol fucking California. Getting closer and closer to 1984 level of government control.
Quote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 06:31:12 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:29:34 PM
Quote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:33:20 PMQuote from: Meta Cognition on March 02, 2015, 06:31:12 PMQuote from: aTALLmidget on March 02, 2015, 06:29:34 PMYea, thats enough of that Midget, this thread does need to be derailed by this.
CA expected to pass vaccination law
