Because I have eaten Vegan food before, genius.  I had to power through a Christmas dinner of it, and my ex used to cook nothing but vegan food.

You haven't had every vegan dish in existence, though. And maybe your ex was just a shitty cook. That's always a very salient possibility.

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on May 12, 2015, 02:44:19 PM

Because I have eaten Vegan food before, genius.  I had to power through a Christmas dinner of it, and my ex used to cook nothing but vegan food.

You haven't had every vegan dish in existence, though. And maybe your ex was just a shitty cook. That's always a very salient possibility.

Me being put off from vegan food severely decreases any chance of trying "every single dish out there."

And he was actually a pretty damn good cook.  Had to fend for himself since his family refused to follow his vegan lifestyle.

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on May 12, 2015, 02:44:19 PM

So just like you can sit there and bitch about meat, I can sit here and bitch about how terrible vegan food is.

Not an apt comparison, because vegans aren't hurting anyone with the food they eat.
Meat-eaters actively support an industry that tortures and kills animals brutally.

Your childishness is showing again.

"HURR YOU'RE A CHILD"

You're a terrible debater,  which is why I don't even try with you.  Just because I enjoy meat, I obviously support how they are treated?  I have really only eaten grass-fed and locally butchered meat.

Quote from: Soʟoɴoɪᴅ on May 12, 2015, 02:34:34 PM

Will it be ethical when livestock is overpopulous and begis starving to death?

They WON'T. The only reason livestock is so populous now is BECAUSE they are livestock. BECAUSE we mass produce them. Animals do not reproduce naturally the rate at which they do artificially.

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Because without the most successful and ruthless predator on the planet (mankind) the entire ecosystem is thrown out of wack.

[citation needed]

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People like to believe that mankind is above the ecosystem, that we have ascended out of it.

We have.

We have brains. Vegans are using them. Meat-eaters are not.

On what grounds do you think we are not a part (perhaps the biggest part) of Earth's ecosystem?
Without man, land predators in North America, Europe, and other developed parts of th world are severely outnumbered by prey.

I don't care how long it takes, the prey will eventually become overpopulous.
They have the overwhelming advantage of numbers, and while the predators will never go hungry, animals such as Cattle, chickens, and sheep will explode in population without being harvested, and not be able to feed on the limited food supply.

It would be unethical to simply abandon our role in the food chain, which evolution has placed us in, and the ecosystem has evolved around.

If the lions and other predators like them decided to become vegetarian, (as ridiculous as it sounds) how fucked would african wildlife be?
They'd overpopulate and starve.

Now, sure, the lion may not have the means to feed itself otherwise as we do, but that is semantical in nature, and totally aside from the point that man belongs at the top of the food chain.

To retire from such a position would quake the very foundation of earth's ecosystem, and cause an incredibly uneasy, very long lasting, period of transition.

You can't always get what you want.

I mean, you're taught that when you're fucking six. That's why I call you a child.
Because you haven't learned that yet, apparently.

Nah, it's either because you're a very angry and miserable person, or just fall back on personal insults because you've used up your terribly limited supply of ammo concerning "THE CURELTY OF THE MEAT INDUSTRY". 

I don't care how long it takes, the prey will eventually become overpopulous.
They have the overwhelming advantage of numbers, and while the predators will never go hungry, animals such as Cattle, chickens, and sheep will explode in population without being harvested, and not be able to feed on the limited food supply.

Prove it.

If the lions and other predators like them decided to become vegetarian, (as ridiculous as it sounds) how fucked would african wildlife be?
They'd overpopulate and starve.

Carnivorous animals going extinct actually sounds like a pretty good idea.

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on May 12, 2015, 02:57:09 PM

>Convinently ignores the rest of my post, where I stated I get grass-fed or local meats

It doesn't matter. Killing animals for food is wrong.

You kill oxygen - breathing and self-sustaining plants for your consumption.

Killing plants for food is wrong.

Well when you knock out the cow/chicken before killing them, they don't feel either.

Retard

It doesn't matter if they didn't feel it at the moment. The fact that they could feel at one point makes it wrong.
Plants can never feel.

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on May 12, 2015, 03:04:47 PM

Well when you knock out the cow/chicken before killing them, they don't feel either.

Retard

It doesn't matter if they didn't feel it at the moment. The fact that they could feel at one point makes it wrong.
Plants can never feel.

http://www.pri.org/stories/2014-01-09/new-research-plant-intelligence-may-forever-change-how-you-think-about-plants

But they can sense, learn,  defend themselves, etc.  So they are alive.

You're still killing a live being for your edgy "FUCK MEAT-EATERS" diet.

Except it's absolutely okay to kill a living organism.

























































...Unless it's sentient.

And plants are not.

You're for abortions,  are you not?

How about i just eat my meat in peace and you veggies stop shoving your beliefs down my throat.

Good golly god this couldn't be said any better.

Killing animals is only immoral by our subjective standards of morality.
:^)
*Eats sausage roll*

Verb is still mad....Also

Can anyone answer me what will happen with all those cows that will be set free? Verb said their population will somehow decrease more to whereas they are getting culled.....that not goof logic doe.

Vergans may just kill the world with CO2 pollution. 

Either way, I'd rather "kill the world with CO2 pollution" than kill animals for our gain. MUCH rather.