bretty good observation

I have a friend who recently chose to stop smoking pot. This is because he used to wake up in the morning, make a pot of coffee, and write (he's a writer, by the way, so that's kind of a big deal). He realized that all he does now is wake up and smoke a bowl, and he hates that it's stopped him from doing what he loves.

There is nothing wrong with occasional consumption, but to say that it doesn't take over people's lives is just ignorant. I've seen too many friends become burnouts to believe that there's no harm that can come from it.

There is nothing wrong with occasional consumption

Wouldn't even say that.

I mean, good for your friend. But no, it's never okay. Ever.

>Smoking anything

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And that's why we have minimum age requirements.

There are more than 2,200 deaths from alcohol poisoning each year in the US, or six per day. Three out of four of each death are men between the ages of 35 and and 64. 38 million US citizens reportedly binge drink.

And this is with a substance that is known to substantially incapacitate and possibly kill a person. If this occurs with a substance that has that kind of reputation, I don't think putting an age limit on pot (AKA muh miracle plant) means diddly-squat in terms of limiting abuse.

Quote from: A E S T H E T I C S on September 21, 2015, 04:03:40 PM

And that's why we have minimum age requirements.

Because kids and teens don't drink and smoke anyway right?

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Quote from: A E S T H E T I C S on September 21, 2015, 04:03:40 PM

And that's why we have minimum age requirements.

There are more than 2,200 deaths from alcohol poisoning each year in the US, or six per day. Three out of four of each death are men between the ages of 35 and and 64. 38 million US citizens reportedly binge drink.

And this is with a substance that is known to substantially incapacitate and possibly kill a person. If this occurs with a substance that has that kind of reputation, I don't think putting an age limit on pot (AKA muh miracle plant) means diddly-squat in terms of limiting abuse.

So you think Cannabis should be accesible to any age group?

I tried pot once. Nothing special.

That's as far as my knowledge extends on this topic; I imagine the culture surrounding pot consumption is pretty awful.

"Moderation" is such a fucking platitude.

Moderate pot is zero pot.

"Moderation" is such a fucking platitude.

Moderate pot is zero pot.

Naturally. But I was talking about the people who do in fact, smoke pot.

Obviously you're not going to go out there and stop them from doing as such now, are you? No and neither am I. But from my respective stance, compared to people who smoke in small doses, when put up against those who are heavy usage, obviously, moderation is a little better.

I say moderation in the sense of people that currently do and who likely won't stop, rather than those who never tried it in the first place.

My point is not moot. And do you know why? You're a gamer. In reality, you literally do nothing, but enjoy yourself when you play a game. But you accomplish nothing else. No activity. No productivity. Nothing is gained except for enjoyment at the cost of time.

And with gamers, the same can be said of moderation. Some, play games moderately. And others, take it way overboard.

So let me remind you that you're one to talk, Verb, if we're bringing up the subject of platitude.

Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

Quote from: A E S T H E T I C S on September 21, 2015, 04:03:40 PM

And that's why we have minimum age requirements.

There are more than 2,200 deaths from alcohol poisoning each year in the US, or six per day. Three out of four of each death are men between the ages of 35 and and 64. 38 million US citizens reportedly binge drink.

And this is with a substance that is known to substantially incapacitate and possibly kill a person. If this occurs with a substance that has that kind of reputation, I don't think putting an age limit on pot (AKA muh miracle plant) means diddly-squat in terms of limiting abuse.

So you think Cannabis should be accesible to any age group?

Of course not. People will kill each other anyways, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't have laws against murder. I was responding to the claim that we have minimum age policies to prevent abuse. I'm saying that the notion of minimum age laws preventing abuse is silly. All it does is better restrict usage to a percentage of the population in general. It's aimed at preventing minors from possessing or consuming a substance, not to prevent abusing it.

The most effective way to prevent abuse is to offer education and rehabilitation for drugs. Changing public perspective toward rehab and addiction are also crucial, but aren't really things that government can directly influence.

Quote from: Prime Uta on September 21, 2015, 04:20:39 PM

abuse.

How would you define "abuse"? Curious.

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Any and all recreational use is abuse.

Going by the definition of substance abuse (as defined by the WHO): "Substance abuse refers to the harmful or hazardous use of psychoactive substances, including alcohol and illicit drugs." So yes, you are entirely correct. Pot is both a psychoactive substance and a category one controlled substance (highly illicit).

But for the sake of this argument, I'm using it to mean using a substance to the point that 1) it permanently impairs your ability to function, and/or 2) dependence syndrome forms.