"Draw Muhammad" shooting in Garland Texas

 
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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
There's a difference between wearing a short skirt, and walking around in rural Afghanistan or Syria by yourself.
Of which these people did neither, so I have no idea where the fuck you're trying to go with this.
No, my point is that there are different degrees of victim responsibility. Wearing a short skirt doesn't make the victim responsible for anything that happens, while going into a dangerous country unprepared or something similar really does give the victim some degree of responsibility, as doing that is incredibly stupid.
Did you even read the OP? Or are you just writing about one of your fantasies?
y chally y

It's a good point, and you know it.
No, it isn't a good point. We're talking about a terrorist attack in America. Not somebody wandering around Afghanistan.

The rape analogy works here because it's full on victim blaming. If it were another American journalist getting kidnapped in Acghanistan or Iraq, then I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Victim blaming is disgusting. Not only that, you've been wrong the whole thread and you were talking about imaginary Twitter posts which were deleted saying these people  didn't attack because of Islam.

Yeah no. You have no valid points to make here and you hadn't had any valid points this entire thread. Honestly I think you sympathize with Islamic terrorists.
Well, of course you'd think that. You literally just said:

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I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Cause that's not generalizing an entire population at all. And if you think I sympathize with Islamic terrorists (which is a ridiculous claim in itself), I don't care.
Again, you have no excuse for your victim blaming in this thread.

Terrorists are a population? FUCKING LOL
Cause the only reason a journalist would go to a dangerous part of Afghanistan is to interview members of the Taliban. Speaking of which, they aren't recognized as a terrorist organization by the US Department of State. So the only terrorists in Afghanistan are al-Qaeda and a couple dozen IS recruiters.


 
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Khilafah420
"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
There's a difference between wearing a short skirt, and walking around in rural Afghanistan or Syria by yourself.
Of which these people did neither, so I have no idea where the fuck you're trying to go with this.
No, my point is that there are different degrees of victim responsibility. Wearing a short skirt doesn't make the victim responsible for anything that happens, while going into a dangerous country unprepared or something similar really does give the victim some degree of responsibility, as doing that is incredibly stupid.
Did you even read the OP? Or are you just writing about one of your fantasies?
y chally y

It's a good point, and you know it.
No, it isn't a good point. We're talking about a terrorist attack in America. Not somebody wandering around Afghanistan.

The rape analogy works here because it's full on victim blaming. If it were another American journalist getting kidnapped in Acghanistan or Iraq, then I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Victim blaming is disgusting. Not only that, you've been wrong the whole thread and you were talking about imaginary Twitter posts which were deleted saying these people  didn't attack because of Islam.

Yeah no. You have no valid points to make here and you hadn't had any valid points this entire thread. Honestly I think you sympathize with Islamic terrorists.
Well, of course you'd think that. You literally just said:

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I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Cause that's not generalizing an entire population at all. And if you think I sympathize with Islamic terrorists (which is a ridiculous claim in itself), I don't care.
Again, you have no excuse for your victim blaming in this thread.

Terrorists are a population? FUCKING LOL
Cause the only reason a journalist would go to a dangerous part of Afghanistan is to interview members of the Taliban. Speaking of which, they aren't recognized as a terrorist organization by the US Department of State. So the only terrorists in Afghanistan are al-Qaeda and a couple dozen IS recruiters.
No, they interview all sorts f people and members of the Taliban to DOCUMENT the region or the group.

And the Taliban are terrorists. I don't give a fuck what the Department of State says, they put Hezbollah on the list and take it off every few years and were reluctant to put Boko Haram on the list.
Well, you can learn a lot about how groups like these do well if you go into those sorts of populations and interview various villagers, etc. So he's not going in there for no reason.


 
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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
There's a difference between wearing a short skirt, and walking around in rural Afghanistan or Syria by yourself.
Of which these people did neither, so I have no idea where the fuck you're trying to go with this.
No, my point is that there are different degrees of victim responsibility. Wearing a short skirt doesn't make the victim responsible for anything that happens, while going into a dangerous country unprepared or something similar really does give the victim some degree of responsibility, as doing that is incredibly stupid.
Did you even read the OP? Or are you just writing about one of your fantasies?
y chally y

It's a good point, and you know it.
No, it isn't a good point. We're talking about a terrorist attack in America. Not somebody wandering around Afghanistan.

The rape analogy works here because it's full on victim blaming. If it were another American journalist getting kidnapped in Acghanistan or Iraq, then I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Victim blaming is disgusting. Not only that, you've been wrong the whole thread and you were talking about imaginary Twitter posts which were deleted saying these people  didn't attack because of Islam.

Yeah no. You have no valid points to make here and you hadn't had any valid points this entire thread. Honestly I think you sympathize with Islamic terrorists.
Well, of course you'd think that. You literally just said:

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I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Cause that's not generalizing an entire population at all. And if you think I sympathize with Islamic terrorists (which is a ridiculous claim in itself), I don't care.
Again, you have no excuse for your victim blaming in this thread.

Terrorists are a population? FUCKING LOL
Cause the only reason a journalist would go to a dangerous part of Afghanistan is to interview members of the Taliban. Speaking of which, they aren't recognized as a terrorist organization by the US Department of State. So the only terrorists in Afghanistan are al-Qaeda and a couple dozen IS recruiters.
No, they interview all sorts f people and members of the Taliban to DOCUMENT the region or the group.

And the Taliban are terrorists. I don't give a fuck what the Department of State says, they put Hezbollah on the list and take it off every few years and were reluctant to put Boko Haram on the list.
Well, you can learn a lot about how groups like these do well if you go into those sorts of populations and interview various villagers, etc. So he's not going in there for no reason.
They've already been documented. It's just redundant now.

And stop changing the subject. This is about terrorists shooting Americans in America for drawing Mo. You've already said your dumb shit and been proven wrong. Let the thread die now.
Well, I'm not sure of how many people are still going into Afghanistan now. But whatever.

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Khilafah420
"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
There's a difference between wearing a short skirt, and walking around in rural Afghanistan or Syria by yourself.
Of which these people did neither, so I have no idea where the fuck you're trying to go with this.
No, my point is that there are different degrees of victim responsibility. Wearing a short skirt doesn't make the victim responsible for anything that happens, while going into a dangerous country unprepared or something similar really does give the victim some degree of responsibility, as doing that is incredibly stupid.
Did you even read the OP? Or are you just writing about one of your fantasies?
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It's a good point, and you know it.
No, it isn't a good point. We're talking about a terrorist attack in America. Not somebody wandering around Afghanistan.

The rape analogy works here because it's full on victim blaming. If it were another American journalist getting kidnapped in Acghanistan or Iraq, then I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Victim blaming is disgusting. Not only that, you've been wrong the whole thread and you were talking about imaginary Twitter posts which were deleted saying these people  didn't attack because of Islam.

Yeah no. You have no valid points to make here and you hadn't had any valid points this entire thread. Honestly I think you sympathize with Islamic terrorists.
Well, of course you'd think that. You literally just said:

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I'd be more inclined to wonder why the journalist is risking his life for no reason trying to document savages.

Cause that's not generalizing an entire population at all. And if you think I sympathize with Islamic terrorists (which is a ridiculous claim in itself), I don't care.
Again, you have no excuse for your victim blaming in this thread.

Terrorists are a population? FUCKING LOL
Cause the only reason a journalist would go to a dangerous part of Afghanistan is to interview members of the Taliban. Speaking of which, they aren't recognized as a terrorist organization by the US Department of State. So the only terrorists in Afghanistan are al-Qaeda and a couple dozen IS recruiters.
No, they interview all sorts f people and members of the Taliban to DOCUMENT the region or the group.

And the Taliban are terrorists. I don't give a fuck what the Department of State says, they put Hezbollah on the list and take it off every few years and were reluctant to put Boko Haram on the list.
Well, you can learn a lot about how groups like these do well if you go into those sorts of populations and interview various villagers, etc. So he's not going in there for no reason.
They've already been documented. It's just redundant now.

And stop changing the subject. This is about terrorists shooting Americans in America for drawing Mo. You've already said your dumb shit and been proven wrong. Let the thread die now.
Well, I'm not sure of how many people are still going into Afghanistan now. But whatever.

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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
Not really. Because they knew drawing Muhammad would make this happen. I mean how much proof do we need that Muslims will kill when people disrespect their religion? They literally kill themselves to take out infidels. Now what logical reason is there to mess with these people and get nothing in return for it?
Just because they'll go to extremes doesn't justify it.  One chooses to take offense, you can't realistically go your whole life not offending a single person unless you wanna be some antisocial nobody who lives in the wilderness.  You're logic defends the murder of MLK, Ghandi, and JFK.  Who knew MLK promoting equal rights would offend white people, he should have kept quiet and made sure not to slap the white gorillas feelings.  That line of thinking is bullshit.


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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
Not really. Because they knew drawing Muhammad would make this happen. I mean how much proof do we need that Muslims will kill when people disrespect their religion? They literally kill themselves to take out infidels. Now what logical reason is there to mess with these people and get nothing in return for it?
Just because they'll go to extremes doesn't justify it.  One chooses to take offense, you can't realistically go your whole life not offending a single person unless you wanna be some antisocial nobody who lives in the wilderness.  You're logic defends the murder of MLK, Ghandi, and JFK.  Who knew MLK promoting equal rights would offend white people, he should have kept quiet and made sure not to slap the white gorillas feelings.  That line of thinking is bullshit.
I don't really see the comparison between drawing Muhammad for no real reason and the assassination of people promoting change. MLK and Ghandi had a purpose and a vision. These people who draw Muhammad aren't really trying to benefit anybody. Just fueling the flames. You have to look at reward and risk ratios.


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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
Not really. Because they knew drawing Muhammad would make this happen. I mean how much proof do we need that Muslims will kill when people disrespect their religion? They literally kill themselves to take out infidels. Now what logical reason is there to mess with these people and get nothing in return for it?
Just because they'll go to extremes doesn't justify it.  One chooses to take offense, you can't realistically go your whole life not offending a single person unless you wanna be some antisocial nobody who lives in the wilderness.  You're logic defends the murder of MLK, Ghandi, and JFK.  Who knew MLK promoting equal rights would offend white people, he should have kept quiet and made sure not to slap the white gorillas feelings.  That line of thinking is bullshit.
I don't really see the comparison between drawing Muhammad for no real reason and the assassination of people promoting change. MLK and Ghandi had a purpose and a vision. These people who draw Muhammad aren't really trying to benefit anybody. Just fueling the flames. You have to look at reward and risk ratios.
Because the comparison wasn't with drawing to assassinations of people, the comparison was victim blaming someone attacked/murdered for expressing their ideas in the free world and rationalizing violence in response as to be expected and as an inevitability.  In a free society, you don't have to be benefiting anybody with your every action.  If you don't like what they say then you can respond back.


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"They shouldn't have drawn Mohammed" is literally the equivalent of "she shouldn't have worn that skirt."
Not really. Because they knew drawing Muhammad would make this happen. I mean how much proof do we need that Muslims will kill when people disrespect their religion? They literally kill themselves to take out infidels. Now what logical reason is there to mess with these people and get nothing in return for it?
Just because they'll go to extremes doesn't justify it.  One chooses to take offense, you can't realistically go your whole life not offending a single person unless you wanna be some antisocial nobody who lives in the wilderness.  You're logic defends the murder of MLK, Ghandi, and JFK.  Who knew MLK promoting equal rights would offend white people, he should have kept quiet and made sure not to slap the white gorillas feelings.  That line of thinking is bullshit.
I don't really see the comparison between drawing Muhammad for no real reason and the assassination of people promoting change. MLK and Ghandi had a purpose and a vision. These people who draw Muhammad aren't really trying to benefit anybody. Just fueling the flames. You have to look at reward and risk ratios.
Because the comparison wasn't with drawing to assassinations of people, the comparison was victim blaming someone attacked/murdered for expressing their ideas in the free world and rationalizing violence in response as to be expected and as an inevitability.  In a free society, you don't have to be benefiting anybody with your every action.  If you don't like what they say then you can respond back.
Okay, I see what you mean. But didn't the Muslims just respond back to something they didn't like? It's a very barbaric and uncivilized way to repspond, but in a free world in which we all can retaliate, wouldn't this be a common issue? I'm not blaming the victims, I'm just saying that they should have foreseen what was going to happen. To an extent.