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Also I would like to ask why the staff is treating Gats like a child.
If a child does something wrong you say "Ok it's fine for now, just don't do it again."
Gats however is a grown man who (should) have the common sense to not post spoilers in a thread where no one is talking about spoilers. (he really should know/even said himself it was fucked up)
I know you said the reason was because of a "non-retroactive punishment policy" but to be fair, i saw this policy on the rule page before this incident the same as I saw spoiler rules. Not at all.


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.


 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.


 
 
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Retroactive Punishments have never been a thing, nor will they be.

The logical leap it requires to not see anything wrong with making a new rule and then banning people for breaking that rule in the past astounds me.

Goots found a loophole, we're closing it/have closed it. If it happens again then whoever does it is in line for whatever punishment is finalised.


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.


 
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Stick to the rules 24/7, 365 days a year.

"The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site." - The Rules


 
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The logical leap it requires to not see anything wrong with making a new rule and then banning people for breaking that rule in the past astounds me.
The logical leap it requires to see anything wrong with punishing someone for being malicious--breaching basic social etiquette--astounds me.

You can keep saying it's not gonna happen. I'm gonna keep saying that's bullshit.
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?


 
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Quite honestly, in the case of someone purposely being a shithead like that, punishment under section 5 wouldn't be such a far reach...


 
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Hmm...
Stick to the rules 24/7, 365 days a year.

"The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site." - The Rules
I'd like to point out that one of the requests/complaints was "consistent moderation." What is it we're doing here if not that, TBlocks? Yeah, I could ban Goots to kingdom come because what he did was shitty, but that would be the definition of biased, unfair, and inconsistent moderation.


 
 
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Stick to the rules 24/7, 365 days a year.

"The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site." - The Rules
Uhuh and maybe it's because I'm a little tired right now, but I'm not seeing the relevance of this.

Of course everyone should stick to the rules, the reason we are moderators is because they don't all do so.

And that disclaimer is standard shite really, we have never nor are we likely to ever just up and lynch someone from the forums because it's such an absurdly shitty way to manage a community that it would probably kill off the site overnight.

'Oh hey, don't mind that guy he just died because the staff didn't like him'
'Boy I sure do feel safe on this forum'

etc


 
 
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The logical leap it requires to not see anything wrong with making a new rule and then banning people for breaking that rule in the past astounds me.
The logical leap it requires to see anything wrong with punishing someone for being malicious--breaching basic social etiquette--astounds me.

You can keep saying it's not gonna happen. I'm gonna keep saying that's bullshit.
I'm saying he's not going to be hit with the new spoiler rules, that doesn't mean there aren't any other categories it might fall under. Because of the excessive focus on spoilers, I don't think anyone has actually looked into if there are any other sections that would apply here.


 
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Stick to the rules 24/7, 365 days a year.

"The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site." - The Rules
I'd like to point out that one of the requests/complaints was "consistent moderation." What is it we're doing here if not that, TBlocks? Yeah, I could ban Goots to kingdom come because what he did was shitty, but that would be the definition of biased, unfair, and inconsistent moderation.
on what basis


 
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Stick to the rules 24/7, 365 days a year.

"The forum staff reserves the right to remove you, and your content, from the forums for any reason, without warning. This was agreed upon registration to the site." - The Rules
I'd like to point out that one of the requests/complaints was "consistent moderation." What is it we're doing here if not that, TBlocks? Yeah, I could ban Goots to kingdom come because what he did was shitty, but that would be the definition of biased, unfair, and inconsistent moderation.
I would argue that's turning a blind eye to someone who
boo hoo
intentionally
boo hoo
Dude seriously?
they were bitching so much about LC supposedly spoiling the game i just had to do it.
Maliciously
boo hoo
Dude seriously?
they were bitching so much about LC supposedly spoiling the game i just had to do it.
Yup. There was an extraterrestrial force pushing you towards the post button.
there was no force making me doing anything, i could see how important the game is to them and i did it regardless because their rage would be entertaining
did something that was intended to cause harm to another user.


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.


 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.


 
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And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
and evidently, the current staff isn't even in that number
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Hmm...
Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
I've said in this thread that I would be open to considering expanding staff, but it won't be this minute and it won't be rushed if it does happen.


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
How many moderators did Bnet have?
For how many thousands of users?

The userbase is small, relatively speaking, but it's consistent on the whole. If we had a surge of new users, we'd get more moderators. Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably. We might bump another one up in the near future but we just took in two new monitors so we need to make sure that goes fine before we add any more in.



 
 
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And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
you already mentioned the people who are already on staff
True, I mean I'm sure my opinion might be a bit biased but on the whole I think most of the mods/staff do a good job and none really throw up any warning lights. There were a few issues with some former staff but that saga doesn't really need digging over.

Even so, there are certainly a few users on here that are either close enough to be worth giving a shot or need a bit of shaping to be mod material so we do keep our eyes peeled for fresh meat even when there isn't an announcement going on <.<

Edit for the edit, I guess I should have seen that coming but anyway. My points still stand in my view,  you are of course free to disagree.
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably.
Well given the recent situation... that statement seems to be in question.


 
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Tblocks you're not going to become a mod.


 
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i'm just saying--i don't think this needed to be a 400 reply thread

we've overcomplicated such a simple issue--we're such a bureaucracy

this shit have been done and dealt with by page 1
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Tblocks you're not going to become a mod.
I don't want to be a mod. at all.


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably.
Well given the recent situation... that statement seems to be in question.
In what way?

As I recall the pictures were being edited out/deleted reasonably quickly considering most of the staff were busy at the time. Certainly none were left there for three hours.

Or do you perhaps refer to how we haven't just shot gatsby for the nonexistant rule he didn't break?

Because when I get five minutes I'm going to look over the rules thread and see if any of them fit the situation from another angle.


 
 
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i'm just saying--i don't think this needed to be a 400 reply thread

we've overcomplicated such a simple issue--we're such a bureaucracy
It probably didn't but I think the first 10 pages or so were erm, complaint airing. I kinda just skipped them <.<


 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably.
Well given the recent situation... that statement seems to be in question.
In what way?

As I recall the pictures were being edited out/deleted reasonably quickly considering most of the staff were busy at the time. Certainly none were left there for three hours.

Or do you perhaps refer to how we haven't just shot gatsby for the nonexistant rule he didn't break?

Because when I get five minutes I'm going to look over the rules thread and see if any of them fit the situation from another angle.
I'll do it for you.

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5. You Have No Rights. Play Nice.

Well would ya look at that.

boo hoo
Dude seriously?
they were bitching so much about LC supposedly spoiling the game i just had to do it.
Yup. There was an extraterrestrial force pushing you towards the post button.
there was no force making me doing anything, i could see how important the game is to them and i did it regardless because their rage would be entertaining


 
 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably.
Well given the recent situation... that statement seems to be in question.
In what way?

As I recall the pictures were being edited out/deleted reasonably quickly considering most of the staff were busy at the time. Certainly none were left there for three hours.

Or do you perhaps refer to how we haven't just shot gatsby for the nonexistant rule he didn't break?

Because when I get five minutes I'm going to look over the rules thread and see if any of them fit the situation from another angle.
I'll do it for you.

Quote
5. You Have No Rights. Play Nice.

Well would ya look at that.

boo hoo
Dude seriously?
they were bitching so much about LC supposedly spoiling the game i just had to do it.
Yup. There was an extraterrestrial force pushing you towards the post button.
there was no force making me doing anything, i could see how important the game is to them and i did it regardless because their rage would be entertaining
Well that's incredibly helpful of you, could you point me to the enforceable part of the old bnet disclaimer?
Where it says what kind of punishment that invokes?

Or am I correct in thinking that bit is completely useless and is more a reference to where we came from in the first place?


 
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Daily reminder that you people didn't vote for Strict moderation when you had the chance.
if you report the post with 'Spoiler - Reason why (if it's not obvious)' then there are enough mods around to see it within a reasonable timeframe.
If by reasonable you mean 10 minutes - 3 hours then sure. It's totally reasonable.
You know it's not a full time job right?
And that almost all of the staff actually have jobs/lives and the like?

I'm just checking because you never know.
Of course. That's why I proposed (earlier in the thread) that there should be more staff members to cover the people at work. That's pretty common sense if you ask me.
Picking monitors is one thing, picking moderators is another.

Entrusting someone with all of the information and tools that a mod gets given isn't something that should be done lightly.

There is a finite number of users on here who would be suitable for the position and most of them are in the roles already. There are a few others that are worth considering but even so, we will never have enough moderators to provide round the clock coverage of every little thing that happens on here, that's just the way of the world.
You're telling me, that out of 1028 total members (most of which aren't active I know) only 5 people are able to handle the enormous duty of moderating an internet forum. 1 of which is barely active anyway!
Well you got me beat there Psy. if we can't fix the problem entirely why try to fix it at all?
Considering most of them are dead accounts at this point, if we have an active userpool of around 150 users then that's a bit more of a realistic comparison.

Minus the 10 people already on staff and you are down to 140.

Then take away the shitposters, then discount the people who flamewar incessantly, then the drama vampires and you start to have a much smaller number of people who could do the job. And then an even smaller number of people who could do the job well.
You would whittle that number down to 5? Only 5 people who are competent enough to handle an internet forum?
Also if you seriously think 150 people is the user base then I can see why the ban and warning times are so small.
Currently four, or five because DC is still a mod even though I think he's left given the length of the AFK now, is working acceptably.
Well given the recent situation... that statement seems to be in question.
In what way?

As I recall the pictures were being edited out/deleted reasonably quickly considering most of the staff were busy at the time. Certainly none were left there for three hours.

Or do you perhaps refer to how we haven't just shot gatsby for the nonexistant rule he didn't break?

Because when I get five minutes I'm going to look over the rules thread and see if any of them fit the situation from another angle.
I'll do it for you.

Quote
5. You Have No Rights. Play Nice.

Well would ya look at that.

boo hoo
Dude seriously?
they were bitching so much about LC supposedly spoiling the game i just had to do it.
Yup. There was an extraterrestrial force pushing you towards the post button.
there was no force making me doing anything, i could see how important the game is to them and i did it regardless because their rage would be entertaining
Well that's incredibly helpful of you, could you point me to the enforceable part of the old bnet disclaimer?
Where it says what kind of punishment that invokes?

Or am I correct in thinking that bit is completely useless and is more a reference to where we came from in the first place?
Strange that you would put that in the official rules then.


 
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