i think there should be a new poll on moderation style

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · July 12, 2015, 12:51:02 AM

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Verbatim · July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM

should be strict

Girl of Mystery · July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM

should be strict

no

Mat Cauthon · July 12, 2015, 07:22:42 AM

I disagree.

challengerX · July 12, 2015, 07:46:45 AM

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TB · July 12, 2015, 07:51:51 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM

should be strict

I would agree with this more to be honest.

Quote from: challengerX on July 12, 2015, 07:46:45 AM

I think it's fine as is.

We get away with saying crazy shit to each other all the time and if not we get a verbal warning or a lock at most.

But Chally does have a point here. It's pretty good the way it is.

Verbatim · July 12, 2015, 12:05:16 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
should be strict
no

yeah, though

i mean it really is "fine" the way it is (some consistent moderation would be nice), but if it changes at all, it should tend towards more strict

Girl of Mystery · July 12, 2015, 12:19:34 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 12:05:16 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
should be strict
no
yeah, though

i mean it really is "fine" the way it is (some consistent moderation would be nice), but if it changes at all, it should tend towards more strict

hugbox lover pls go and stay go

TB · July 12, 2015, 12:35:02 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 12:19:34 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
should be strict
no
yeah, though

i mean it really is "fine" the way it is (some consistent moderation would be nice), but if it changes at all, it should tend towards more strict
hugbox lover pls go and stay go

You do realize it's possible to have stricter rules without making it a hugbox, right?

Girl of Mystery · July 12, 2015, 12:38:08 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on July 12, 2015, 12:35:02 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
should be strict
no
yeah, though

i mean it really is "fine" the way it is (some consistent moderation would be nice), but if it changes at all, it should tend towards more strict
hugbox lover pls go and stay go
You do realize it's possible to have stricter rules without making it a hugbox, right?

stricter rules would kill this place even more because everyone would either leave because it's boring, or be banned because they broke the new hugbox rules.

Consistency of the current system is the best way.

TB · July 12, 2015, 12:42:30 PM

Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 12:38:08 PM

Quote from: TBlocks on July 12, 2015, 12:35:02 PM
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 12:19:34 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 12:05:16 PM
Quote from: Le Mon man on July 12, 2015, 06:31:07 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on July 12, 2015, 02:14:10 AM
should be strict
no
yeah, though

i mean it really is "fine" the way it is (some consistent moderation would be nice), but if it changes at all, it should tend towards more strict
hugbox lover pls go and stay go
You do realize it's possible to have stricter rules without making it a hugbox, right?
stricter rules would kill this place even more because everyone would either leave because it's boring, or be banned because they broke the new hugbox rules.

Consistency of the current system is the best way.

Oh ya I agree it should stay the same.
I'm just saying it's not impossible to make the rules stricter without making it a hugbox.

Verbatim · July 12, 2015, 12:43:59 PM

how can you be sure people would leave

the same rules would be enforced--you just wouldn't get, like, a million warnings before finally getting banned

if anyone left just for that, then who needs them?

Flee · July 12, 2015, 03:07:21 PM

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Cheat · July 12, 2015, 03:46:24 PM

Quote from: Flee on July 12, 2015, 03:07:21 PM

I think it's pretty good as it is, but I wouldn't be opposed against doing a poll and seeing what the community thinks.

Agreed. I'll see if I can get a poll set up soonish for you guys to vote on. It'll be one of those "community pulse" polls, like Flee said, and won't absolutely determine what will happen next.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · July 12, 2015, 03:53:16 PM

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Super Irish · July 12, 2015, 07:39:43 PM

Really, I thought we ironed out the creases from the last moderation fuckups (if you can call them that).

The lineups are good, and the moderation from an unwarned and unbanned perspective has also been good since.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · July 12, 2015, 08:11:59 PM

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Pippen · July 12, 2015, 08:18:37 PM

A poll is fine, I only wish there was more community events going on(not counting game nights, I mean other types.)

Cheat · July 12, 2015, 08:37:03 PM

Quote from: Pip on July 12, 2015, 08:18:37 PM

A poll is fine, I only wish there was more community events going on(not counting game nights, I mean other types.)

What sort of events do you mean, then?

Pippen · July 12, 2015, 08:53:36 PM

Quote from: Cheat on July 12, 2015, 08:37:03 PM

Quote from: Pip on July 12, 2015, 08:18:37 PM
A poll is fine, I only wish there was more community events going on(not counting game nights, I mean other types.)
What sort of events do you mean, then?

Like, the Anarchy threads or something like them, maybe a contest, just something other than "game night"(which are fun! Don't think that I don't like them, just wanna see more variety.)

Naoto · July 14, 2015, 02:36:10 AM

Been thinking this myself. With any changes like that its usually good to run a follow up.
Though I think we'll just end up with hybrid again.

Still prefer lax.

DAS B00T x2 · July 14, 2015, 07:01:01 AM

Well don't you all wish you'd have joined the five of us who voted for strict now, hun?

Mattie G Indahouse · July 14, 2015, 07:09:22 AM

If we go to the lax system we're going to have people throwing shit at each other which is going to make the site look hostile which is going to drive people off. For a small community that is loosing people we want to have more people using this site so it stays up due to more advertisement money. With the system we have in place now it makes that site look more friendly which hopefully keeps people. From what I seen in the member introduction thread a lot of the new people that post in it stopped posting before they got to 100 replies. It's either they simply don't like the site or they think we're hostile to each other. If we go to a system that would increase hostility we would probably be loosing even more people and gaining less.

Verbatim · July 14, 2015, 07:19:47 AM

YEAH LAX GUYS

LET'S MAKE THE JOINT AN EVEN BIGGER SHITHOLE THAN IT IS

Naoto · July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM

Quote from: BerzerkCommando on July 14, 2015, 07:09:22 AM

If we go to the lax system we're going to have people throwing shit at each other which is going to make the site look hostile which is going to drive people off. For a small community that is loosing people we want to have more people using this site so it stays up due to more advertisement money. With the system we have in place now it makes that site look more friendly which hopefully keeps people. From what I seen in the member introduction thread a lot of the new people that post in it stopped posting before they got to 100 replies. It's either they simply don't like the site or they think we're hostile to each other. If we go to a system that would increase hostility we would probably be loosing even more people and gaining less.

Lax never tolerated harassment or spam. It just allowed shitposting.
With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.

Mat Cauthon · July 14, 2015, 07:39:18 AM

Quote from: Naoto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM

With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.

No we haven't, not unless they're doing it mulitple times per thread in an attempt to piss off someone.
Anyone who has gotten a warning for saying something like that once has just been slapped with unfair and inconsistent moderation.

Verbatim · July 14, 2015, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: Naoto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM

With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.

i don't see the problem
it's not like he was joking--he was being malicious

the problem isn't getting warnings for name-calling--the problem is that cheat singled out one user for doing it, when the sort of thing happens all the time, everywhere

find me a good, thriving forum that allows flaming other users--go ahead

Naoto · July 14, 2015, 07:49:34 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on July 14, 2015, 07:42:03 AM

Quote from: Naoto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM
With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.
i don't see the problem
it's not like he was joking--he was being malicious

the problem isn't getting warnings for name-calling--the problem is that cheat singled out one user for doing it, when the sort of thing happens all the time, everywhere

find me a good forum that allows flaming other users--go ahead

Find me a fun forum that slaps people for something as benign as retard. If this place stops being fun people will go elsewhere.

Archive already went the hugbox no shitposting route and we all pretty much universally laughed at them. Strict would be the dumbest thing we can do.

I still think shitposting and meaningless threads are where the humor happens. Something doesn't have to have discussion value or be on topic in order for it to be fun. The trick is not allowing spam or stuff that crosses the line into harassment.

But like I said I doubt a vote would turn out anything other than hybrid, and I know we won't get strict since only a few people want it.

Naoto · July 14, 2015, 07:51:32 AM

Quote from: Byrne on July 14, 2015, 07:39:18 AM

Quote from: Naoto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM

With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.
No we haven't, not unless they're doing it mulitple times per thread in an attempt to piss off someone.
Anyone who has gotten a warning for saying something like that once has just been slapped with unfair and inconsistent moderation.

If I read that thread correctly Cheat seemed to disagree with your assessment here. He wants the place to be more welcoming. But stricter moderation (ala retard warnings) isn't going to do that. Its going to make people want to do it more.

Mattie G Indahouse · July 14, 2015, 07:52:59 AM

Quote from: Naoto on July 14, 2015, 07:33:24 AM

With the system we have now people are getting warnings for calling others retard.

I don't think they're getting warned for calling somebody it once they're most likely got warned for doing it more than once. If you seen that thread of Lemons he posted here about he makes it seem like he's some innocent user getting mod biases which isn't the case. He called me a retard more than once and I think he does the same to Deci. After the first few times when you know the person isn't joking it ends up being harassment which is against the rules. Can you honestly say that this post of his is more of a joke than it being harassment? It's easy to see that it's more of an insult than a joke.