For everyone proposing stricter rules and regulations...

Not Comms Officer · April 30, 2015, 11:56:50 PM

Here's this simple equation I devised.

Stricter rules = More bans

More bans = Less users

Less users = Less activity

So stricter rules will inevitably result in less activity. And is that something we really want, especially given our current problem with sharp activity decline?

And this forum is in an awkward position where the more... rowdy users tend to contribute more discussion to the forum overall. So banning users like them will pretty much kill the discussions going on in the forum, and it will pretty much kill the forum single handedly.

So here is just some simple food for thought: Perhaps one of this forum's best traits is its relaxed interpretation of rules, and relaxed enforcement, especially comparing to other forums out there. I think that capitalizing on the relaxed rules and the (honestly, much more interesting) discussions that the Serious board has could result in increased activity for the forum.

Nick McIntyre · May 01, 2015, 12:03:12 AM

Well, we all voted for a hybrid of strict and lax. So yeah

Camnator · May 01, 2015, 12:13:57 AM

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Not Comms Officer · May 01, 2015, 12:14:13 AM

Quote from: Voro 'Cinotai on May 01, 2015, 12:03:12 AM

Well, we all voted for a hybrid of strict and lax. So yeah

Exactly. So changing that would really fuck shit up.

Not Comms Officer · May 01, 2015, 12:16:28 AM

Quote from: Camnator on May 01, 2015, 12:13:57 AM

I say just do away with bans entirely except for stuff like threats and just implement an actual mute function for the whiners that let words on the internet bother them.

This is a good idea as well!!

But make the mute function better than just a half-assed thing where all of the muted user's posts are under spoilers. Like, just make the muted user's posts disappear for the user muting the other person.

And to appeal to the whole crowd against cyberbullying, etc, we still just keep some sort of regulations against making threads calling out users, etc.

Kitsune 狐 · May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM

Okay who got butthurt?

Not Comms Officer · May 01, 2015, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM

Okay who got butthurt?

There's the problem. This forum has so many butthurt people that their favorite pasttime in the forum is to flood the moderators with reports. Thankfully, the two biggest perpetrators of this (Kinder and Noelle) are gone for the foreseeable future. If there rules and regulations stayed relaxed, then these butthurt people would continue to be denied influence since honestly, most of them tend to be annoying pricks in the eyes of some 75% of the forum.

Increasing the amount of regulations in this forum would give power to those who 75% of the forum are pissed off at.

I have actually been a proponent for the continued status-quo in relaxed rules for a while because I know that adding more rules would do far more harm than good to the forum.

Kitsune 狐 · May 01, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 01, 2015, 12:43:21 AM

Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
Okay who got butthurt?
There's the problem. This forum has so many butthurt people that their favorite pasttime in the forum is to flood the moderators with reports. Thankfully, the two biggest perpetrators of this (Kinder and Noelle) are gone for the foreseeable future. If there rules and regulations stayed relaxed, then these butthurt people would continue to be denied influence since honestly, most of them tend to be annoying pricks in the eyes of some 75% of the forum.

Increasing the amount of regulations in this forum would give power to those who 75% of the forum are pissed off at.

I have actually been a proponent for the continued status-quo in relaxed rules for a while because I know that adding more rules would do far more harm than good to the forum.

Wow once again you make perfect sense.
So are they honestly thinking of making stricter rules, or are you trying to prevent this from even becoming a mod proposal?

big sponge · May 01, 2015, 12:52:56 AM

Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 01, 2015, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
Okay who got butthurt?
There's the problem. This forum has so many butthurt people that their favorite pasttime in the forum is to flood the moderators with reports. Thankfully, the two biggest perpetrators of this (Kinder and Noelle) are gone for the foreseeable future. If there rules and regulations stayed relaxed, then these butthurt people would continue to be denied influence since honestly, most of them tend to be annoying pricks in the eyes of some 75% of the forum.

Increasing the amount of regulations in this forum would give power to those who 75% of the forum are pissed off at.

I have actually been a proponent for the continued status-quo in relaxed rules for a while because I know that adding more rules would do far more harm than good to the forum.

Wow once again you make perfect sense.
So are they honestly thinking of making stricter rules, or are you trying to prevent this from even becoming a mod proposal?

There are no plans to change the rules at this time.

Kitsune 狐 · May 01, 2015, 12:54:27 AM

Quote from: LC on May 01, 2015, 12:52:56 AM

Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 01, 2015, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
Okay who got butthurt?
There's the problem. This forum has so many butthurt people that their favorite pasttime in the forum is to flood the moderators with reports. Thankfully, the two biggest perpetrators of this (Kinder and Noelle) are gone for the foreseeable future. If there rules and regulations stayed relaxed, then these butthurt people would continue to be denied influence since honestly, most of them tend to be annoying pricks in the eyes of some 75% of the forum.

Increasing the amount of regulations in this forum would give power to those who 75% of the forum are pissed off at.

I have actually been a proponent for the continued status-quo in relaxed rules for a while because I know that adding more rules would do far more harm than good to the forum.

Wow once again you make perfect sense.
So are they honestly thinking of making stricter rules, or are you trying to prevent this from even becoming a mod proposal?

There are no plans to change the rules at this time.

Okay good to know!
Thanks LC.

Not Comms Officer · May 01, 2015, 12:54:37 AM

Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:50:22 AM

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on May 01, 2015, 12:43:21 AM
Quote from: Kitsunekun on May 01, 2015, 12:38:22 AM
Okay who got butthurt?
There's the problem. This forum has so many butthurt people that their favorite pasttime in the forum is to flood the moderators with reports. Thankfully, the two biggest perpetrators of this (Kinder and Noelle) are gone for the foreseeable future. If there rules and regulations stayed relaxed, then these butthurt people would continue to be denied influence since honestly, most of them tend to be annoying pricks in the eyes of some 75% of the forum.

Increasing the amount of regulations in this forum would give power to those who 75% of the forum are pissed off at.

I have actually been a proponent for the continued status-quo in relaxed rules for a while because I know that adding more rules would do far more harm than good to the forum.

Wow once again you make perfect sense.
So are they honestly thinking of making stricter rules, or are you trying to prevent this from even becoming a mod proposal?

Prevent it from being proposed by the mods.

TB · May 01, 2015, 07:25:45 AM

Quality or Quantity eh? I take the former.

Comet · May 01, 2015, 07:32:03 AM

didnt Icy try to really crack down on the rules and everyone got mad, leading to him stepping down?

Mat Cauthon · May 01, 2015, 07:48:30 AM

Quote from: Comet on May 01, 2015, 07:32:03 AM

didnt Icy try to really crack down on the rules and everyone got mad, leading to him stepping down?

Not from what I saw, a few people with sticks up their asses about him heckled him when he actually did his job, and he wasn't bothered to deal with the shit so he stepped down.

Camnator · May 01, 2015, 08:37:25 AM

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Mr. Psychologist · May 01, 2015, 08:42:15 AM

Icy stepped down because he was starting a work placement thing in Didneyworl, so he wouldn't have much time to be online/around for the next while. Not because he was being a nazi and people QQ'd.

Comet · May 01, 2015, 08:53:52 AM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on May 01, 2015, 08:42:15 AM

Icy stepped down because he was starting a work placement thing in Didneyworl, so he wouldn't have much time to be online/around for the next while. Not because he was being a nazi and people QQ'd.

ah that explains it.

Turkey · May 01, 2015, 09:22:29 AM

I don't even know how the fuck you people get banned here, short of posting a naked 12 year old getting murdered or something.

Mr. Psychologist · May 01, 2015, 09:42:43 AM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on May 01, 2015, 09:22:29 AM

I don't even know how the fuck you people get banned here, short of posting a naked 12 year old getting murdered or something.

Gore, Porn, Meatspin, full on flamewars, spamming. The usual shit for forums really. Occasionally we get some fun with harassment/personal information/pseudo-doxxing but that's thankfully rare.

Cheat · May 01, 2015, 09:44:07 AM

Quote from: HurtfulTurkey on May 01, 2015, 09:22:29 AM

I don't even know how the fuck you people get banned here, short of posting a naked 12 year old getting murdered or something.

Hard work and mom's permission to use the Internet.

Mattie G Indahouse · May 06, 2015, 07:45:34 PM

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Camnator: I say just do away with bans entirely except for stuff like threats and just implement an actual mute function for the whiners that let words on the internet bother them.

I agree to that. Insulting someone should not be a ban. If you are bothering the person then there should simply be a mute feature like you said. If the person mutes the one bothering them then that person no longer has to put up with it. For people that are making pointless threads that keep getting locked. Instead of locking them or banning the person for it the punishment should simply be the removal of the create a thread feature. Once that happens then they have to have a thread approved by a mod in order for it to be posted.

Alternative Facts · May 07, 2015, 02:11:39 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on May 01, 2015, 08:42:15 AM

Icy stepped down because he was starting a work placement thing in Didneyworl, so he wouldn't have much time to be online/around for the next while. Not because he was being a nazi and people QQ'd.

Well, yes. That, and I was one of the stricter mods around here >.>

Now I just write shit.

Naoto · May 07, 2015, 08:34:35 PM

I think locking shitposts has had a slow down effect, but the users getting banned are never really the one's worth keeping tbh.