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« on: January 28, 2015, 05:21:15 AM »
Yes.
Repeatedly.
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« on: January 27, 2015, 09:17:47 PM »
i'm not some case study, i really don't care if you think i'm fake anyway. i'm just trying to have a discussion
I've been doing this shit for five years, I can tell when someone is playing a character with the sole intention of trying to influence other people.
Can you tell if I am playing a character?
Also if you can read that then they either are poor at it or you should look into MOS 35M.
I assume you must be to some degree otherwise you wouldn't have asked. But I'm really just basing my assumptions off the effect his posts have on the unsuspecting reader (or maybe it's more of a subconscious thing, who really knows), and examining the likelihoods of the possibilities. I wouldn't say I'm an expert at reading people, this situation is different because I've been playing this same game for many years where I pretend to be a political ideology I don't like and I make myself an extremely unlikable and unintelligent person.
MOS 35M seems pretty interesting. I do plan on joining the military after college, but as a chemical engineer. It's something to keep in mind though.
We work a bit different here in Australia. One doesn't just walk into a role like that. But they operate in the same basic principle.
If I ever moved back to the US I would take that role. However my wife wouldn't want to move to the US not would she let me continue down that path any more than I have.
Chemical engineer would be good. But there are bigger $'s to be made in that field outside of DoD. Military lays pretty crap in the US.
Joining the military to make money is about as stupid as it gets.
8 month in Afghanistan equated to AU$91,000 tax free. After 91 days we get tax free money on deployment. We also get field pay, separation allowance and 2 weeks leave after 3 months on full pay with entitlements. In Iraq we were told we would charged if we discussed pay with US members because US get paid dirt. The money is there to be made, and if you invest it the right way you will be very well off when you get out.
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« on: January 27, 2015, 03:52:06 AM »
i'm not some case study, i really don't care if you think i'm fake anyway. i'm just trying to have a discussion
I've been doing this shit for five years, I can tell when someone is playing a character with the sole intention of trying to influence other people.
Can you tell if I am playing a character?
Also if you can read that then they either are poor at it or you should look into MOS 35M.
I assume you must be to some degree otherwise you wouldn't have asked. But I'm really just basing my assumptions off the effect his posts have on the unsuspecting reader (or maybe it's more of a subconscious thing, who really knows), and examining the likelihoods of the possibilities. I wouldn't say I'm an expert at reading people, this situation is different because I've been playing this same game for many years where I pretend to be a political ideology I don't like and I make myself an extremely unlikable and unintelligent person.
MOS 35M seems pretty interesting. I do plan on joining the military after college, but as a chemical engineer. It's something to keep in mind though.
We work a bit different here in Australia. One doesn't just walk into a role like that. But they operate in the same basic principle. If I ever moved back to the US I would take that role. However my wife wouldn't want to move to the US not would she let me continue down that path any more than I have. Chemical engineer would be good. But there are bigger $'s to be made in that field outside of DoD. Military lays pretty crap in the US.
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« on: January 27, 2015, 01:49:50 AM »
i'm not some case study, i really don't care if you think i'm fake anyway. i'm just trying to have a discussion
I've been doing this shit for five years, I can tell when someone is playing a character with the sole intention of trying to influence other people.
Can you tell if I am playing a character? Also if you can read that then they either are poor at it or you should look into MOS 35M.
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« on: January 26, 2015, 02:33:30 PM »
create a classless society.
That's not even possible, let alone desirable.
yes it is. just because noone has tried it yet doesn't mean the idea shouldn't be scrapped
No one will ever try it. Because those elected to be in power, which there will be as humans NEED to be lead, will want to be set aside from the rest. Individuality will come forth and the natural desire humans have that causes greedy, corruption and want will come to life and ruin your society. Someone in your classless society will have more or be more successful than someone else or others by no fault of their own and then the others will get jealous and covet what they have. People in power will believe themselves better than those they serve/look after and eventually power will be abused. People will favour their own friends and family over others they are not so akin to when it comes to law, punishment, etc leading to corruption of the criminal justice system. Your society will not work because of the human factor.
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« on: January 26, 2015, 02:24:30 PM »
You amuse me. Capitalism creates corruption? So for that matter communism doesn't? Obviously you took the wrong pill when offered and didn't go down the rabbit hole.
Humans create corruption. It is human nature. Humans always have and always will want more. They will always want bigger, newer, shinier things. They will always want the things that others have that they don't. It is natural NEED for resources. It is always there.
Capitalism just answers to that natural calling.
Show me a non-capitalist country that is not corrupt. That wealth and greed is not rampant. As even the poorest of countries the wealthy still set themselves aside from the poor and do as they please.
Don't blame capitalism for the world's problems. Look at yourself. Right there is the heart of all said problems.
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« on: January 26, 2015, 05:18:51 AM »
Talking such as what Camnator forever does does not make you a threat.
You and your friends getting together on your weekly D&D sessions and talking about corruption and how you would change thing does not make you a threat.
An idea or ideology is not a threat until it is in the hands of capable people with intent and means to do something.
That is how a threat is assessed.
So ask yourself do you have a different belief/ideology than what is currently acceptable?
Would you stand up for such a belief/ideology?
Have you found others with similar beliefs/ideologies?
If you and your friends/acquaintances were to act upon such beliefs/ideology what sort of damage could you do?
Nada.
None of you are a threat.
Please try and argue by telling me you are and how.
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« on: January 26, 2015, 05:06:09 AM »
I like Cam's chain of thought,
"You don't need these things... But you need a job."
Biggest living contradiction.
You don't need a car- how does one get around, get to work, get to job interviews, etc
You don't need a phone or internet- a large portion of jobs and application processes take place at some point via these methods. The other method is face to face contact... Which will require some means of transport to attend.
You don't need amenities, or as you put it, "Go find a pond"- if you cannot maintain a decent level of hygiene good luck getting and holding a decent job. Are you also getting your drinking water from such a pond? I advise against pond water.
What if there is no pond? No creeks? No streams? Do these people then only bathe/shower when it rains?
You are right, you don't need any of those things. Unless you want to participate in a modern civilised society.
The life you described is basically life on reservation. And life on reservation is unlike anything you have ever experienced.
So no, you are completely wrong. A person who wishes to live today cannot survive on $8/hour.
And yes your attempts at trying to rebut these facts will only make you look stupid as I throw your exact words in your face to show you that you CANNOT live everywhere in the US for $8/hour.
All I would have to do is find one state, one county, one town, suburb, or even village where $8/hour is not sustainable to disprove your stupid comment and make you look like more of an idiot than you already are.
And before you get started, I have no reflection in mirrors. I am not referring to myself in the 3rd person, and I have not disproven anything I have said/argued.
All your regurgitated responses that everyone continues to see you post do you no credit.
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« on: October 14, 2014, 09:51:42 PM »
How young is "too young"?
I've been told I got married at too young of an age (22) but I see people get married at 18 and are doing great.
So I ask you great people of serious, how young is too young to get married?
I got married at 24. I have 2 kids and I am now 3. There is no such thing as too young. You are your own person. People will always expect you to live by their dogma. But you are not them. If it fucks up it fucks up. But even if you were to marry at 40 there is no guarntee that the marriage would be any better.
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« on: October 14, 2014, 09:48:12 PM »
So I have been here for a little while but don't contribute that often.
I'm 30, I'm a guy, I'm from Australia. If you are a school kid or over opinionated tween you probably won't like me.
I always play the devil's advocate who sheds a bit of "reality" on supposed "intelligent" people who have never experienced the big bad world.
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« on: October 12, 2014, 02:05:39 AM »
I will be your trainer/instructor
Expect some serious Major Payne style shit to go down.
I miss instructing lids.
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« on: October 10, 2014, 10:09:10 PM »
I hold them 100% responsible for the way they acted. If you know you are that broken then you have a moral responsibility to prevent harming others through taking your own life.
People who have these psychological disorders do not know they have them. Or to dumb it down for you someone who is crazy/insane doesn't realise they are. They believe they are normal. It is only after it has been diagnosed and brought to their attention can they begin to understand. Even then a lot do not accept it. How can they realise they are that broken if they don't know they are damaged/broken in the first place? Why would they do as you say and take their own life if they think nothing is wrong? Psychopaths show no emotion or remorse. They cannot comprehend such chains if thought, hence why if they do something they so not understand it's wrong/bad unless people have repeatedly told them/trained them to realise it is. Even then it is only the person reciting what they have been told as they do not feel bad, or anything for that matter about anything. Also understand some of then lash out because they have to. It's like an itch, they have to scratch it. If they don't it cause them discomfort and sometimes they even claim to feel pain. Once they lash out they feel better. Try educating yourself in criminal psychology/offender profiling before making stupid uneducated remarks.
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« on: October 10, 2014, 09:58:42 PM »
If you all got together I doubt you could conquer a wet paper bag.
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« on: September 05, 2014, 03:22:05 AM »
I love people who claim hitler was atheist. My suggestion to you history buffs is to research the lance of Longinus and then ask why Hitler wanted it.
As an "atheist " such religious artefacts would/should have meant nothing to him.
But by all means keep arguing your opinions.
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« on: September 04, 2014, 11:05:09 PM »
You have never heard of counter intelligence operations?
This shit happens all the time. Politicians do shit like this all the time to one another to put themselves ahead of the competition.
Businesses do it to destroy competition.
Militaries do it to cause havoc amongst their enemies.
And governments do it to destroy those who oppose them.
Wiki leaks is a form of counter intelligence.
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« on: September 03, 2014, 10:04:39 PM »
The Kurds are fighting back by posting pictures of ISIS members being slaughtered in Iraq.
Kurdish forces also contain female soldiers who are basically hell cats that scare the shit out of ISIS, as they believe being killed by women denies them entrance to heaven. These ladies are doing massive damage in both Iraq and in Syria where they are getting a lot of their experience.
I can post a pretty traffic pic posted by a Kurdish soldier after they ambushed a ISIS convoy. One of the occupants of the flaming wreckage is on the ground still alive, and looking to be in a lot of pain. You can see the bottle of water the Kurds threw to the dying ISIS man who is severely burnt as a joke.
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« on: August 19, 2014, 09:09:11 PM »
Seeing as a very close friend of mine has recently begun operating in Africa as a Private Security/Military Contractor and they are paying him and those he work with US$45,000 for 3 months work I predict there is going to be a LOT of butt hurt in Africa.
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« on: August 19, 2014, 09:06:27 PM »
Different cultures, societies, etc have different moralities.
So how can their be a universal "code"?
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« on: August 19, 2014, 09:04:55 PM »
*Eagerly awaits Kiyo's thoughts/response*
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« on: August 18, 2014, 10:13:04 PM »
Marxism.
No thanks.
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« on: August 12, 2014, 05:57:37 PM »
I read the links when you first posted them.
1. Military Police do not interrogate. They are not interrogators. HUMINT collectors, specifically Exploitation Operators are Interrogators.
Military police guard, transport and prosecute. Therefore the link in regards to photos taken and claims made by Military police shows THEIR abuse of power and stepping outside their job roles.
2. None of those sites are credible sites. You could not use them in university assignments, research papers or even reference them in a debate without being laughed at.
3. Pictures if makes standing nude is not torture. Heaven forbid you ever attempt SASR selections if you think such treatment is torture.
4. Pictures such as the detainees sitting tied together on the cargo floor of an aircraft is not torture. They are tied in, even with the cargo door open nothing will happen, but it gives the sensation they will fall out.
Other pictures such as detainees sitting bound outside whilst a military person hold a cup of water... How is that torture?
5. Wikipedia is a user created form of information. I could create a Wikipedia entry in regards to how I am a god and that would somehow be credible.
All your claims of torture and "raping" with gas lights is as I earlier stated conducted by outsourced operators. Not belonging to any country's military means they fall outside the laws of armed conflict and that no country is held responsible. In regards to places such as Egypt, etc, local interrogators are used to conduct the interrogations/torture. Coalition pers "may" observe but they do not partake or conduct such methods.
You really don't have a grasp on how any of this works do you? Obviously with your use of supporting links to 3rd party sources you don't understand how to support arguments.
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« on: August 11, 2014, 10:18:07 PM »
Double post
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« on: August 11, 2014, 10:17:36 PM »
Family, friends, the innocent, the seldom few who adorn the uniform and stand by my side regardless of season, weather or terrain. But most of all my kids.
I would do unspeakable things to anyone who harmed my kids, who threatened harm upon my kids. I do not care their age. I do not care their excuses. A 13 year old, her older brother and her dad were witness to what happens when intentional harm is inflicted upon my kids. The only ounce of regret is the father was only doing what I was doing, defending his kids, but attempting to justify a 13 year old purposely harming a 4 year old and a 19 year old does not cut it.
What would I give my life for? Same as above.
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« on: August 11, 2014, 09:52:11 PM »
Dude, they did that to people. They raped kids with gaslights and forced the parents to watch in black sites. Read my links. Why would I make that up? I can't imagine even hitting a kid, let alone the disgusting shit that's done to them in those black sites.
That's why "enhanced interrogation techiniques" shouldn't be allowed, because people will not follow regulations and do whatever they please. That's my point.
Those things you mentioned were not conducted by coalition/US interrogators. That was carried out by the outsourced interrogators. Outsourced work can be dangerous as those from other countries that are not signatories of the Geneva convention and all that jazz are free to do what they like. Hence why a lot of people were taken to "black sites" off US soil. Places like Egypt and what not were used. These things may have occurred, but not by HUMINT collectors from coalition forces. There is quite a difference form what you have said and pointed out to and what really goes down.
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« on: August 10, 2014, 02:17:24 AM »
Man, chill. You made a lot of snide remarks yourself.
With power comes corruption. Careful with the snide marks or you too will be dealt with in accordance to "their" law.
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« on: August 09, 2014, 08:51:27 PM »
If all you're going to do on this forum is make snide remarks towards people the I suggest you leave.
Ok, I will keep that to Bungie forums. Speaking of which you seen the poll where they are deciding if they want you around or not?
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« on: August 09, 2014, 08:49:38 PM »
hurr muh army murrican warrior
Considering no western military actually fights Hamas, your service doesn't make you any more qualified to speak on the matter.
Not American. Was a UN observer in '08/'09 as part of the 11 Nation peace keeping force in the Sinai, in which I spent most of my time in and around Gaza. Please tell me more about my qualifications and those of the children on here.
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« on: August 09, 2014, 07:14:35 PM »
Well they've let Israel get away with it for some time now...
If you love Palestine so much why do you just live there?
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« on: August 09, 2014, 06:56:29 PM »
Still waiting for Kiyo to somehow justify what ISIS is doing.
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« on: August 07, 2014, 11:53:13 PM »
Every country does dumb shit like that to overthrow those that are not on cahoots with them and they cannot manipulate.
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