Quote from: Kiyohime on January 07, 2015, 08:42:22 PM

Foxy

^x^

=^.^=

Loved that film

Is this supposed to frighten me?

I wonder that myself, I don't understand how people can be scared of spiders, yet people are, I know it's mental.

Current one


Next one might be this

Yuta

Good: Knows when to beg like a good boy

Bad: Loves beaner food

Kiyo:
- Enjoyable personality/fun to talk to

- Not so good at serious discussions

I'm not all that interested in debating, I prefer to watch them

With any luck ISIS will be targeting the Israelis instead of other Palestinians, though given the volatile nature of ISIS it's most likely they will turn on the Palestinians. Still hoping for the former though.

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 11:45:06 AM

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Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 11:40:22 AM

Murder out weighs rape.

Not in every instance. Not at all.

None of us can even begin to imagine the constant psychological trauma she must've endured.

I'm sure some of us can. And I'm not dismissing what happened to her, she deserves treatment for that, but she shouldn't be let off the hook for pulling the trigger. And no I'm not saying she should get a full 20 years a high security prison nor am I "victim blaming".

The punishment should not be jail tho, something like mandatory time in a rehabilitation facility or something.

I didn't say she should spend her time in jail

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 11:40:22 AM

Murder out weighs rape.

Not in every instance. Not at all.

None of us can even begin to imagine the constant psychological trauma she must've endured.

I'm sure some of us can. And I'm not dismissing what happened to her, she deserves treatment for that, but she shouldn't be let off the hook for pulling the trigger. And no I'm not saying she should get a full 20 years a high security prison nor am I "victim blaming".

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The girls were being held in juvenile detention on suspicion of murder and a prosecutor is trying to decide whether they will be charged as adults

Read more: http://www.kptv.com/story/27789384/documents-girl-15-who-shot-brother-16-suffered-abuse#ixzz3OLYSU54u

She shouldn't be charged at all. Doing so will teach victims of abuse and rape that trying to get out a situation will result you being the bad one who ends up in prison, not the perpetrator

Murder out weighs rape.

She should face some form of punishment for her crime.

Quote from: Septy on January 09, 2015, 11:26:45 AM

You got called out for making ignorant statement and you're surprised they took action?

Would you be saying the same thing had I put any other religion into that slot?

I've said exactly the same thing about religions previously--including Buddhism--and it's never been a problem. Primarily because nobody is that ridiculously sensitive to get butthurt about it, and also because what I'm saying isn't incorrect.

If you said something like that about Christianity and Judaism you would get the same treatment, more so if it was judaism.

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 09:22:27 AM

. . .

That's not my logic at all, but I see your confusion. I should've made my initial point clearer.

I know there are good Muslims and I've acknowledged their vital existence since I've been aware of these people--Malala, for example--and I'm not even coming close to saying all Muslims are violent. I mean, hell, the Old Testament is probably worse than the Qur'an, but we don't need to worry about Jews.

The point is that the representation of scripture in the actions of human beings is all that matters--not whether it's being twisted in some grammatical or semantic sense; it may well be--and given what we know lies within the Qur'an we can safely say that the actions of these--as you rightly say--twisted individuals were caused by their Islamic values.

If a Muslim robbed a liquor store and took a packet of bacon on his way out, I wouldn't attribute that to his Islamic beliefs because there's clearly no correlation there. And, in the same sense, I wouldn't attribute Jain suicide bombing to Jainism; these things just don't correspond. Islam, however, and violence correspond very well, even given the existence of the admirable moderates.

EDIT: I also disagree with the assertion that if they were Christian they would do the same. Christianity shed it's violence a long time ago (if we were living in the 15-16th Centuries, I'd be attacking Christianity, no doubt) but also because Christians face the same sort of satire nowadays as Muslims do, and yet Christian fundamentalism is nowhere near as substantial.

Christianity hasn't exactly shed its violence, you only need to look at Africa and see the horrible things done there in the name of God. True the Catholic Church doesn't go around beheading those who insult Jesus but nor would the Muslim Clerics in the ME if they were in the same position as Western religious leaders (not counting small radical baptist sects).

Point is, it's not Islam at fault, it's those who take their beliefs to the extreme whatever that belief may be.

Quote from: Kiyohime on January 09, 2015, 09:03:57 AM

Because you blamed Islam, Islam didn't make those people shoot up the place, the shooters backwards mindset and the twisted extremist beliefs they have did.

No, it did.

They shot the place up while shouting allahu ackbar.

They were quite clearly Muslims and motivated by their beliefs, in the same way Christians have been motivated to bomb abortion clinics or block stem-cell research. Trying to say they aren't really Muslims is apologetics of the worst sort because, whatever you may think about the scripture and doctrines of Islam, they were still Muslims.

*face palm*

They shot the place up while shouting allahu ackbar

Again, that's because of their own twisted extreme views, not because they were Muslim, if they were Christian they still would hold those views and if the paper drew a cartoon about Christianity they would do the same.

When did I say "they weren't really Muslim"? Because I didn't.

When Christian extremists shoot up an abortion clinic in the US or execute gays in Africa, it's not because of Christianity itself, it's because of the peoples extreme passion for it. By your logic ALL Muslims are violent fundamentalists and ALL Christians are homophobic murderers who shoot up abortion clinics.

-_-

Moral of the story, don't be ignorant.