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« on: October 27, 2016, 08:42:31 PM »
girls can be just as strong as men why do we divide men and women at the olympics, then
is it because the olympics are sexist or are you just wrong because women would get blown out in every event
Yeah but women CAN BE, doesn't mean they're masculine. You missed the whole point and immediately go to your canned argument.
what do you mean by this are you saying women dont try hard enough
902
« on: October 27, 2016, 08:40:59 PM »
-centre of gravity is high, meaning they can be taken out by blowing up a leg or pushing them over
this is only a problem if the base is narrow
903
« on: October 27, 2016, 08:27:03 PM »
youre both weirdos
904
« on: October 27, 2016, 08:22:11 PM »
youre a weirdo
905
« on: October 27, 2016, 07:38:43 PM »
why wouldn't I? Men are hairy and disgusting, not to mention a general terrible facial aesthetic
femininity literally corrects all of the mistakes of masculinity
why do you believe its a mistake
906
« on: October 27, 2016, 06:53:03 PM »
but looking feminine and thin transcends sexuality, it's just the best look
so why do you want to look feminine and why do you think its best
907
« on: October 27, 2016, 07:17:40 AM »
Apparently severe anorexia is "cute".
being thin is what makes your body look good, being cute is what makes your face look good
are you gay cause idk why you want to look like a twink
>not wanting to achieve the ideal form?
STAY PLEB
The ideal form is between masculine and feminine.
ideal for being gay maybe thats all i was asking why you have to turn this into a thing 
908
« on: October 27, 2016, 06:58:36 AM »
Apparently severe anorexia is "cute".
being thin is what makes your body look good, being cute is what makes your face look good
are you gay cause idk why you want to look like a twink
909
« on: October 27, 2016, 06:55:24 AM »
910
« on: October 27, 2016, 06:51:45 AM »
datsun fairlady z gr8  
911
« on: October 27, 2016, 05:22:41 AM »
Is the Ford Pinto in it
idk
912
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:38:18 AM »
my irl friends like it and if sterling and aj like it looks like i might ave a look see
913
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:36:47 AM »
914
« on: October 27, 2016, 02:36:11 AM »
discuss forza horizon 3 
915
« on: October 27, 2016, 01:12:36 AM »
not as old as i thought tbh
916
« on: October 27, 2016, 12:33:59 AM »
I've been a busy girl... Does anyone else have a Deviantart account or am I just a dweeb?
http://pie-likes-me.deviantart.com/
I'm watching you >.>
no
918
« on: October 27, 2016, 12:31:05 AM »
I personally liked the full tower you picked out over the mid tower, but that's probably cause I'm a sucker for windowed cases and I have a Corsair 760T.
> windews get out ricer
919
« on: October 25, 2016, 07:17:04 PM »
Also EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.
this is untrue on the hardware level
they all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speed
you're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no difference
the real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services
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also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machine
i havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghz
While that's true, someone who doesn't want to overclock their processor probably doesn't plan on diving into gpu settings or replace the heatsink. A 1080 is a 1080, but small differences have small performance differences. I don't disagree though, you explained it much better than me.
And I really was talking more about the computer sounding like a jet taking off, but I really wasn't clear about that at all by using words like "heating issues".
cpu fans shouldnt be making any noises at all
normally you shouldnt be able to pick out any fan noise apart from the gpu which throttles the fan control once under load
the only time i ever hear my cpu fan is if its brushing against a wire or something
that or your fan might be broken, or not using the system fan control pins if its constantly at 1800 rpm
CPU fan is definitely dependent on cpu load. If you're running at 80-90% load, you will definitely hear the fan.
It's also temperature dependant; if you didn't use enough thermal paste/it wasn't applied directly you could have heating issues (which would trigger the fan).
Of course, this is much more noticeable with stock fans, but the point is that fans will always make some sort of noise. That noise is linked to the intensity of the load the components are under; if he's planning to run everything basically stock, then he shouldn't have any problems with the fan getting loud.
im not saying theres no noise im saying the noise should blend in the same as any other case fan because thats basically what the 212 uses you can replace the 212's fan with any 120mm fan any case fan not using pin control power will be running at maximum, the 212 being the same as any of these shouldnt be any louder than any other, if not even quieter GPU fans are pushing much more air through a smaller amount of space than a 212 in a semi-enclosed heatsink, hence why they are often the loudest part in cooling of any system even with my GPU out my pc's case fans have always been loud enough that i cant hear my cpu cooler at all, and the only sound my case fans make is a soft "woosh", no mechanical whirring or whine of any sort that could be described as particularly noisy
920
« on: October 25, 2016, 06:47:21 PM »
Also EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.
this is untrue on the hardware level
they all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speed
you're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no difference
the real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services
==========
also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machine
i havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.3 ghz
While that's true, someone who doesn't want to overclock their processor probably doesn't plan on diving into gpu settings or replace the heatsink. A 1080 is a 1080, but small differences have small performance differences. I don't disagree though, you explained it much better than me.
And I really was talking more about the computer sounding like a jet taking off, but I really wasn't clear about that at all by using words like "heating issues".
cpu fans shouldnt be making any noises at all normally you shouldnt be able to pick out any fan noise apart from the gpu which throttles the fan control once under load the only time i ever hear my cpu fan is if its brushing against a wire or something that or your fan might be broken, or not using the system fan control pins if its constantly at 1800 rpm
921
« on: October 25, 2016, 06:16:38 PM »
Also EVGA is always the best GPU brand, Gigabyte a close second. IIRC MSI tends to be durable enough, but it lacks in performance compared to its equivalents.
this is untrue on the hardware level they all use the same exact graphics chip, all manufactured by nvidia, all thats different between resellers is the heatsink and the settings applied to the chip, i.e voltages, clock speed, fan speed you're paying for their specific setup using their coolers and settings, if you really wanted you could just buy the cheapest 1070 you could afford and use those heatsinks and settings and there would be no difference the real reason for considring one brand over another is the customer services ========== also the 212 is fine for overclocking, the K series dont come with boxed coolers anymore so they pretty much expect you to oc your machine i havent been seeing adverse temps on my 212 + 6600k @ 4.2+ ghz
922
« on: October 25, 2016, 06:13:27 PM »
That actually gave me a lot of food for thought. I'm not really interested in going for a micro setup, but cutting out the i7 for an I5, changing down to a 750 series of SSD instead of an 850 and opting for a slightly cheaper fan freed up about €160, making it so that for just €40 more I could fit a GTX 1080 in my original plan.
How do you guys feel about this?
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant
CPU: Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€239.16 @ Amazon Deutschland)
CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€76.99 @ Aquatuning)
Motherboard: Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€109.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€91.44 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€76.64 @ Mindfactory)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.84 @ Mindfactory)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 1080 8GB Video Card (€654.06 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (€107.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (€274.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €1682.48
My main questions / concerns here would be:
- does the motherboard I have listed support all of the parts I picked and is everything compatible?
- is the Be Quiet: Dark Rock cooler sufficient for my build, or can I downgrade to the CM Hyper 212 EVO to save some money?
- should I get an additional case fan?
- is the GTX 1080 model that I listed (the MSI Armor 8G) good? I've noticed that others (especially where I live) seem to be a lot more expensive and this one is by MSI and got pretty good reviews from what I can tell.
Thanks. 
when you say "sufficient" anything is "sufficient", even the intel boxed cooler (though they dont come with the unlocked processors now) would be enough if you're not overclocking, and heck that still has room anyone can justify the 212 evo because it's cheap and has performance to spare for overclocking even at it's low price, yes the noctua and bequiet are better, but it's not a night and day difference, at the end of the day, you can't go wrong with either three, just one of them costs 1/3rd of the price the motherboard will work yes GPUs are all the same, you're paying for the customer support and cooler. a really cheap palit 1070 at the same clock as an evga 1070 will have the same performance, the difference is with palit you'll probably have to send it to china and wait 30 days for a replacement MSI have pretty okay customer support in my experience case fans are upto you, you can have as many or as few as you want, generally if you want it to move more air and keep the ambient temp of the inside of the case cooler, you'll want more, just remember to keep it balanced, you don't want to induce positive or negative pressure, because your fans will be working against each other and that will reduce the amount of air moving through your pc also let me just say mid towers will fit full size ATX motherboards, i only went with the matx cause of the price, not of the size, so you really dont need to spend money on a huge case which are ultimately a waste of space unless you were going for a monstrosity with a massive E-ATX, 4 GPUs and watercooling or something  also consider that you might want to save some of that money to buy some games, the build I made will have identical software performance to this one again buy what you want, if you really want your build, its your money and i can understand you wanting to have chosen the parts yourself, just giving my input on what i wouldve done with the same amount of money
923
« on: October 25, 2016, 12:12:42 PM »
okay so i had to take some liberties since i didnt know it was in euros and minus the cost of the monitor this should be somewhere between the two in terms of cost you dont have to buy this but its a suggestion that uses a 1080 pros: 1. still around your price range 2. the most powerful machine for gaming out of the three (as long as nothing is incredibly cpu intensive, which most games arent, maybe get the i7 only if you plan on playing a lot of strategy games that simulate a ton of AI at once) cons: 1. micro atx motherboard, however this matx STILL has 4 DIMM slots so upgrading ram shouldnt be a problem 2. you'll only have room for 1 gpu; option for SLI is a nice-to-have but its almost always better to just swap out the card with a new one instead, SLI always underperforms and next generation there will be 3. no wlan, you can add one if you really want but i would seriously recommend you buying those 200ft ethernet cables instead youll have to add the monitor yourself http://de.pcpartpicker.com/user/Jetbuilder/saved/njD23Clet me just say this, most computer hardware is pretty much the same between brands if its the same model, GPUs, RAM, the parts the others suggested are indeed better, but overall the difference between those parts between each other wont make as much of a difference as stepping up to a 1080 will the efficiency you gain from the slightly better coolers and motherboards is less than the efficiency you will get from the extra performance a 1080 would give you also the 212 evo isnt dinky at all, you could buy another fan for it if you wanted 
924
« on: October 25, 2016, 11:54:00 AM »
also i would not get a wireless adapter for desktops
they suck a lot of the time, they might have to go through the big hunk of metal that is your own desktop and you'll always be better off with a 200ft ethernet cable or something if you live on the other side of the planet, and your ping will always be better than any wireless
925
« on: October 25, 2016, 11:52:22 AM »
Update: I've taken advice from people on a few sites and narrowed it down to two updated builds. I'm basically set on everything except for a few components where I'm still on the fence between two parts.
CPU:
Intel Core i7-6700K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (€339.65 @ Amazon Deutschland)
OR
Intel Core i5-6600K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor (€239.16 @ Amazon Deutschland)
I'm very much leaning towards going with the i7 as I think it'll hold up better in the future and might be useful for more demanding software and (perhaps) streaming, but several people have advised me to get the i5 instead as it supposedly makes little difference for gaming.
CPU Cooler:
Noctua NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler (€87.99 @ Aquatuning)
OR
be quiet! Dark Rock 3 67.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler (€59.99 @ Aquatuning)
The Noctua cooler is apparently among the best there is, so I'm leaning towards that one. However, people have told me that it would be overkill for my CPU (especially with me not planning to overclock it in the near future) and that I would be better off saving some money here by going for a smaller cooler. On a similar note, I've been suggested to not only get the Noctua cooler, but also invest in another case fan (this one in particular). They're not that expensive so it's not that big of an issue, but I'm slightly worried by the fact that I've had people tell me that I need another fan for even more cooling, while others have told me that my initial and sole cooler would already be overkill and a waste of money.
Motherboard:
Asus Z170-P ATX LGA1151 Motherboard (€109.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory:
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€94.84 @ Mindfactory)
OR
G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory (€91.44 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Both are nearly identical in price and speed (DDR4-3000), so I don't think I can really go wrong here with either. Any suggestions would be welcome, even if it's just personal preference.
Storage:
SSD: Samsung 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (€104.93 @ Mindfactory)
OR
SSD: Samsung 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (750 EVO-Series) (€76.64 @ Mindfactory)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€52.84 @ Mindfactory)
I'm leaning towards the 850 EVO-Series (someone told me to go with an M.2 SSD, but they really do seem a fair bit more expensive and come across like an unnecessary speciality), but I've been told to consider the cheaper 750 series as they are almost the same in performance but quite a bit cheaper. So basically, how much of a performance difference is there here? I'm planning on just putting my OS and a few important programs on the SSD with the rest on the HDD. Is there a noticeable difference between 750, 850 and M.2?
Video Card:
EVGA GeForce GTX 1070 8GB SC Gaming ACX 3.0 Video Card (€453.47 @ Mindfactory)
Case:
Phanteks Enthoo Pro ATX Full Tower Case (€107.83 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Power Supply:
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (98 €)
OR
EVGA SuperNOVA G2 550W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (90 €)
Not sure which one I should go for. Since they're so similar in price, I was considering playing it safe and going for the 650W, but I have been told that the 550 will be more than enough.
Wireless Network Adapter:
Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCI-Express x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter (€30.00 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Monitor:
Asus VG248QE 24.0" 144Hz Monitor (€274.52 @ Amazon Deutschland)
I've put both options into a PCpartpicker list. Option 1 includes all of the cheaper and lower tier options out of the 2 possible ones, while Option 2 is all of the higher ones. The difference comes down to about € 150.
Option 1:
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/tgHGjc
Option 2:
http://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/Zh898K
Again, all advice is welcome.
youre spending too much you could get a machine with a 1080 on in that price bracket
926
« on: October 25, 2016, 11:50:10 AM »
Overall solid build.
-I'd back the WD > Seagate.
-EVGA > Gigabyte
-CPU cooler looks a bit dinky. Consider the Noctua NH-D15. It's big, effective, silent, and the only drawback is that you need low-profile RAM for it. I'd say it's the most powerful alternative to liquid cooling.
-If you plan to put only your OS on the SSD, and a key program or two, then consider downgrading to 120GB
if youre improving a build i would only swap parts for the same price the hyper 212 is one of the best performing for its price, its not going to cause any problems with plenty of room for ocing evga is expensive af, you pay for good the customer service, otherwise you wont really find any difference between a cheapass palit 1070 vs a evga 1070 in terms of performance unless theyre factory ocd
927
« on: October 25, 2016, 11:32:52 AM »
929
« on: October 14, 2016, 07:57:56 PM »
if not what you enjoy, then why you enjoy it
am i right or am i right
would you call yourself intelligent
930
« on: September 29, 2016, 12:37:10 AM »
I'm too much of a degenerate to buy music
I just download it off youtube
That reminds me, the dude who owns the Youtube to MP3 conversion site is getting sued by record labels.
which one theres like a million of them
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