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41191
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:52:35 AM »
Look who's talking, the one who started it by calling me a jendeh. Just because I'm more right-leaning, grew up in the south, and love muh freedoms that doesn't mean I'm incompetent of foreign cultures and their derogatory terms
Challenger logic: I can insult somebody but nobody can insult me
Whore isn't really a schoolyard insult. Schoolyard insult means something stupid young kids say. Damn it's like you can't understand anything. I called you a jendeh to have you look it up. It amuses me to do that.
41192
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:47:56 AM »
I have never ONCE talked about traits that are unchanged, and opinions on them, I've been talking general terms and about the concepts since I entered the thread.
The you're completely off topic. Homosexuality can not be changed. If you want to discuss "general terms" make your own thread.
41193
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:46:48 AM »
Stay challenged, lashy
Dem schoolyard insults.
41194
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:44:31 AM »
actions of others create opinions on them, which is what we're discussing. my parents completely lost respect in my sister at that point, and in their opinions, and in their eyes, she wasn't family. that opinion led to disowning her.
No. We're talking about opinions of traits in people, traits that can't be changed. You changing the subject to your own personal life is irrelevant and isn't what we're discussing.
41195
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:38:32 AM »
What part of is up for interpretation?
The part where he says "opinion" and not "action". You misunderstood him.
41196
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:31:31 AM »
Nope, learned it in my world history course
Ok jendeh. 
41197
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:30:36 AM »
he said that NO opinion or action leading to disowning is justified or right, I gave him my own experience as an example.
I think you misunderstood him.
41198
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:23:05 AM »
Ayatollah is a title given to Twelver clerics, who are knowledgeable in Islamic studies regarding law, ethics, and philosophy. They also teach in seminaries
I was laughing because it reminded me of supreme gentlemen
6 minutes to go to Wikipedia? Sheesh.
41199
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:22:18 AM »
Those pictures are hilarious btw.
41200
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:21:22 AM »
Yeah I found a kitty taking a nap on my pillow once. Would've kept him but my dog hates cats and I don't have the time to get him to not attack the cat and then take the cat to get shots and all that.
41201
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:16:29 AM »
Why did I lol?
Because you don't know what Ayatollah means. Don't worry, we're laughing at you too. 
41202
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:12:43 AM »
41203
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:04:30 AM »
you have to accept it, you can disagree all you want, but you have to at least accept that it's a viewpoint and that any argument against the morality of it is also opinion, otherwise you'll never know where they went wrong, what caused them to reach that end point, and you'll become just as biased and prejudiced as they are, only difference being you're fighying on the other side, creating a conflict.
all opinions deserve in the very least to be acknowledged by anyone and everyone, and if we don't learn the causes and how they end up there, we're never going to develop further away from avoiding that conflict, just condemning any opinions or thoughts that are against your own is the exact mentality that the holy church used during the crusades, and it's what causes wars. now this, I disagree with, have your parents ever been robbed the $2000 that .paid off the rent? how about that money being stolen by your sister? has she then used that $2000 to generate over a million dollars by flipping houses and then never even taken a second glance at your mother and left your family behind in the dust? no? well that's what my sister did, and that is exactly what got me started into the working world, it's also exactly why she is no longer my sister, she left her family behind to burn, and completely abandoned us in the worst situation possible, then returned 10 years later and tried to act like nothing had happened.
Your sob story is irrelevant. But I'll discuss it. Disowning her for fucking your family over is NOT the same as disowning her for being gay. I don't see where you're drawing the comparisons between a choice and the way somebody is born. And funnily enough, those of is that don't tolerate bigots have yet to launch a crusade against them. Imagine that.
41204
« on: September 05, 2014, 09:01:02 AM »
and there you go again, claiming opinion as fact. what you don't seem to understand is that morality is inherently an opinion on something, and what you call wrong is what they call right, you've got to learn to accept others' viewpoints, you're perfectly entitled to not like their views, and you can call it wrong all you want, but the only fact in this whole thing is that your claims are OPINION, not fact, stop acting like you're a fucking god among men and on a moral high ground of righteousness, because you aren't, no one is.
I'm not acting like anything. It is inherently wrong to stone people for being gay. Fact. I do not have to accept or respect violence and hatred. You're dead wrong buddy, you've got this ass backwards.
41205
« on: September 05, 2014, 08:07:35 AM »
there is opinion, you were raised to see them as being in the wrong, and I'm agreeing with your opinion and how you were raised, but that doesn't give you the right to say that the way they were raised is wrong, you claiming that the people who are like this are wrong is like me claiming that people in the middle east are wrong in their teachings. the matter of fact here is that you are only calling it wrong because it goes directly against what you were raised on, and what you were born into.
The people in the Middle East are wrong. It's wrong because you don't hurt and insult people for being born a certain way. That's why good and smart people teach that to their children. It's not random beliefs and that think it's wrong because my parents told me so. I know it's wrong because you don't hurt or insult people for being a certain color or having a specific sexual preference.
41206
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:55:52 AM »
Holy shit.
Loco write a book.
41207
« on: September 05, 2014, 07:20:40 AM »
looks like you've just contradicted yourself. there is no objectivity to beliefs, as beliefs are in all reality opinions. You're a fucking idiot for even suggesting that there is an objective moral high ground to this when you're literally judging and shunning these people for the way they were raised and the world they were born into.
Yes I am judging and shunning people who judge and shun others for the color of their skin or sexuality. It is fucking disgusting you're comparing skin color and sexuality to being raised with prejudice. You can overcome that and learn what you were taught is wrong. You can't change your skin color or sexuality, Michael Jackson aside. Hysterical. "LEL UR LITERALLY JUDGING AND SHUNNING THEM FOR BEATING THE SHIT OUT IF AN INNICENT CHILD UR HIPPOCRIT". There is no opinion here. There's right and wrong. It is wrong to shun others for the color of their skin or their sexuality.
41208
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:45:39 AM »
Man that is disgusting.
41209
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:21:27 AM »
Kinder's a retard but this is getting dangerously close to SJW rhetoric here Challenger...
Call it whatever you like my friend. The right wing in America stopped being moderates a long time ago. What we have now are Democrats and Fascists. To think of them as anything other than enemies of the state is naive. I don't see how it resembles what those PC tumblr faggots say when I'm calling out PC people for saying African American instead of black American. Believe it or not, Obama has faced the most ridiculous accusations in the history of American presidents, because he's black. I didn't see anybody ask for Clinton's birth certificate, or call him a hologram, or that he's bringing about a new world order and is the antichrist.
41210
« on: September 05, 2014, 06:13:42 AM »
Still basing things on race? toplel. Bet you think only blacks can be African-American, huh?
Obama has set up and is setting up a heavy internet surveillance.
DHS has special spy technology capable of seeing through walls and has vans cruising city streets, spying on Americans indiscriminately.
Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act into law, a bill granting him the power to detain for an unlimited time anyone he deems engaged in terrorism. Given the DHS definition of terrorism, that could be anybody. American citizens are not exempt
A fascist allows you to own your business, but tells you how to run it. So under President Obama, the government CONTROLS the economy through burdensome taxes and regulations, but does not OWN it. Because he controls the economy, he can take credit for anything that goes right. But because he doesn't own it, he can blame somebody else for anything that goes wrong.
Nope. They're black Americans. If anybody thinks that's racist they can kiss my ass. That African American bullshit is for people afraid of being labeled racist. They're not first generation immigrants, they've been there since the beginning. You realize all these programs were STARTED by Bush, right? Dat selective memory. As for the rest if what you said, it's too stupid to even try and pick apart. He isn't a fascist. He's the democratically elected president of America. Or do you seriously think there's some sort of conspiracy here with all the hatred he gets from ignorant motherfuckers like you and Republitards in office? Do you seriously think a black man is the one pulling all the strings in America? FUCKING LOL You fascists are really something. You hate him because he's black, then act like HE'S the fascist and wants to make YOU a minority and destroy America. You're terrified that a black man is your president. Absolutely terrified, because you know what your ancestors have done to the blacks, and what you fuckers STILL do today. Good. You deserve to be afraid.
41211
« on: September 04, 2014, 08:03:17 PM »
But there are beliefs here. They believe that you're wrong just as you believe they're wrong. I'm not defending that it's acceptable for them to go beat someone up based on their beliefs. I'm just trying to say that it's a matter of cultural differences and an upbringing of beliefs. There are grey areas when you're talking about cultural differences, it's not black and white.
And their beliefs are objectively wrong. It's not right to shun people for the way they're born. Not all beliefs or people are worthy of respect.
41212
« on: September 04, 2014, 07:50:44 PM »
It's just as equally bad.
You're not tolerating a belief that's different from your own just as they're doing.
No it isn't. I'm not going to tolerate people who are dead wrong and would physically harm you for being a certain way, ESPECIALLY when it's something you're born with. There are no "beliefs" here. There's right and wrong. You're damn right I hate people like that. We all should. The fact that you're defending people physically hurting someone who has done nothing wrong is fucking disgusting. There is no excuse for hurting an innocent person. Ever.
41213
« on: September 04, 2014, 07:45:44 PM »
Hating someone based on their cultural beliefs is just as bad as them judging sexuality.
What? Are you implying I'm a bad person for not tolerating intolerance? Fuck outta here with that shit. It's one thing to say "My grandma's old fashioned, she doesn't really understand the whole homosexuality thing." And it's quite another to say "Yeah the people I know would disown and beat the shit out of you for being gay. They're cool though."
41214
« on: September 04, 2014, 07:40:57 PM »
You don't know them do you? No.
A person being good can't be based off of just one quality of themselves especially one such as judging sexuality. Refer back to my statement about these people being raised that way, they don't know any better. It's not bad for them because that's all they know. I guarantee you that you're average stereotypical southern redneck that everyone likes to hate on so much is nicer than anyone else you'll ever meet.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Like the Nazis "just following orders". I mean hey, we can't REALLY blame people for things they actually do, that's just wrong. You know what else was a different time? Iran hundreds of years ago. Slaves weren't chosen because of skin color and blacks were actually a huge part of the Persian Empire. Or how about ancient Greece and Ancient Rome where homosexuality was considered normal, and was even encouraged? There's no excuse.
41215
« on: September 04, 2014, 07:24:18 PM »
People I live around are good but they would do the exact same thing. It's how they were raised, it's not their fault. Times were different, it's still acceptable to say the N word where I live. Do I agree with it? No but it was a different time and people can't get past how they were raised.
Then they aren't good people. Good people don't hate others for their sexual orientation or skin color.
41216
« on: September 04, 2014, 07:17:43 PM »
This is basically the kind of people I live around. Don't get me wrong I love the south but people are blindly conservative and still have the attitudes from the 1950's. They're good people but goddamn ignorant.
Yes. We can see just how good they are in the OP.
41217
« on: September 04, 2014, 06:18:04 PM »
Pathetic.
41218
« on: September 04, 2014, 06:09:39 PM »
Actually she is. Nobody deserves to be killed, and the Israelis are terrorists.
So are the Arabs. I don't see how you support the Palestinians when they'd bury you in the ground up to your chest then throw medium sized rocks at you until you died. You realize they'd do that to you right? For being a transgender?
41219
« on: September 04, 2014, 06:07:52 PM »
Well she isn't that wrong.
Shut the fuck up. You think a whole nation of people deserve to be killed? You're as dumb as Kiyo.
41220
« on: September 04, 2014, 06:06:08 PM »
She says Palestinians deserve to be killed. So yes, I'm celebrating tomorrow.
Drink are on me guys! 
And she's a Republican. I don't like her either, but your Palestinian dick riding is hilarious.
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