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14731
« on: October 21, 2014, 05:00:00 PM »
When will we get Onion Beetle?
Best poster ever.
We need him here.
We have three options, we can wait and see if he turns up.
We can concoct a trail of shitposts that will lead him to a cardboard box held up by a stick. Then we bash his fookin ed in and drag him here in chains.
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
He was here before. I am talking to him now on b.net, should I ask him to come back?
Please do <.< I've asked him once before I think but he said something along the lines of his light is needed where it is darkest. >.> Although I doubt the desticles are worthy of basking in his illumination.
14732
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:39:09 PM »
14733
« on: October 21, 2014, 03:35:21 PM »
14734
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:46:05 PM »
If you are going to pull out some random online criterion you could at least do the full version, this is the NHS's general diagnostics criteria. Link: http://www.nhs.uk/Conditions/Depression/Pages/Symptoms.aspxNote the bits you omitted, such as duration of symptoms, severity of symptoms. The symptoms of depression can be complex and vary widely between people. But as a general rule, if you are depressed, you feel sad, hopeless and lose interest in things you used to enjoy.
The symptoms persist for weeks or months and are bad enough to interfere with your work, social life and family life.
There are many other symptoms of depression and you're unlikely to have every one listed below.
If you experience some of these symptoms for most of the day, every day for more than two weeks, you should seek help from your GP.
Psychological symptoms include:
continuous low mood or sadness
feeling hopeless and helpless
having low self-esteem
feeling tearful
feeling guilt-ridden
feeling irritable and intolerant of others
having no motivation or interest in things
finding it difficult to make decisions
not getting any enjoyment out of life
feeling anxious or worried
having suicidal thoughts or thoughts of harming yourself
Physical symptoms include:
moving or speaking more slowly than usual
change in appetite or weight (usually decreased, but sometimes increased)
constipation
unexplained aches and pains
lack of energy or lack of interest in sex (loss of libido)
changes to your menstrual cycle
disturbed sleep (for example, finding it hard to fall asleep at night or waking up very early in the morning)
Social symptoms include:
not doing well at work
taking part in fewer social activities and avoiding contact with friends
neglecting your hobbies and interests
having difficulties in your home and family life
Depression can come on gradually, so it can be difficult to notice something is wrong. Many people continue to try to cope with their symptoms without realising they are ill. It can take a friend or family member to suggest something is wrong.
Doctors describe depression by how serious it is:
mild depression has some impact on your daily life
moderate depression has a significant impact on your daily life
severe depression makes it almost impossible to get through daily life – a few people with severe depression may have psychotic symptoms
I know what clinical depression is. I've suffered from depression multiple times in the past and I'm not getting it confused with "the blues" As you have said, and I don't doubt it. But the point is that you keep on stating things that are possibly helpful for mild depression (which has minor impact on your daily life, very little impact on the FFA checklist and typically goes away after a period of time with no major medical treatment needed) as if they were things that would apply to someone with severe clinical depression. And yet again, your original statement ITT was that people who commit suicide are choosing the coward's way out. If you say that you know about clinical depression then how in the hell do you still maintain that? Or don't you? Or more likely, do you not know a lot about clinical depression beyond what some quick google can tell you. As it's also been pointed out ITT, ignorance isn't something to be ashamed of or defensive over. It's something to accept and either leave at that or work on improving. I know jack shit about economics and philosophy, I don't pretend to understand either. I do however know a fair bit about Psychology in general and Mental Illness in particular having spent the last three years studying it and living through it.
14735
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:36:40 PM »
You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine
Not only that, but it either has a neutral effect, or often makes everything worse.
I have friends and family that suffer from depression. Hearing "just cheer up!" a thousand times helps nothing, and can drive them deeper into their hole.
Indeed, anecdotally I have never once seen it make things better. From a personal note it simply made me angry, and I see that effect in other people I know. It never comes off as caring or helpful but as a smug facetiousness of 'I'm happy and you aren't, so why don't ya just cheer up?' even if that's the exact opposite of the real intention.
Exactly. I doubt he'll read this, so I'll share it -
My younger brother [now 17] has been suffering from depression for several years now. On top of some medical issues, he's also dealing with being trans. My family opted for homeschooling when his medical issues were keeping him out of classes too often, so he pretty much never leaves his room, and doesn't have any friends.
I try to be optimistic about it all, but things are pretty rough for him, and I know "cheer up, bro" isn't going to help anything.
Ouch :l
Has he been seeing a doctor/psych about the depression/trans? I would be pretty surprised if they hadn't <.<
Yeah he has, for both. He's certainly doing better than, say, a year ago, but it's a long road.
Ah that's good, and it certainly is. I hope things improve for them soon though.
14736
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:36:03 PM »
kettle of fish.
Why would you put fish in a kettle?
Lols, it's a silly britbong colloquialism >.>
14737
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:29:28 PM »
You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine
Not only that, but it either has a neutral effect, or often makes everything worse.
I have friends and family that suffer from depression. Hearing "just cheer up!" a thousand times helps nothing, and can drive them deeper into their hole.
Indeed, anecdotally I have never once seen it make things better. From a personal note it simply made me angry, and I see that effect in other people I know. It never comes off as caring or helpful but as a smug facetiousness of 'I'm happy and you aren't, so why don't ya just cheer up?' even if that's the exact opposite of the real intention.
Exactly. I doubt he'll read this, so I'll share it -
My younger brother [now 17] has been suffering from depression for several years now. On top of some medical issues, he's also dealing with being trans. My family opted for homeschooling when his medical issues were keeping him out of classes too often, so he pretty much never leaves his room, and doesn't have any friends.
I try to be optimistic about it all, but things are pretty rough for him, and I know "cheer up, bro" isn't going to help anything.
Ouch :l Has he been seeing a doctor/psych about the depression/trans? I would be pretty surprised if they hadn't <.<
14738
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:27:54 PM »
Cut the shit, right now.
Kinder: Meta did not launch a personal attack, he took issue with your ignorance of suicide.
I will say this once, anyone who continues this shit is getting a 20% warning. Anyone.
Cut the crap out, discuss it nicely and try not to act like little bitches when you argue.
And Kinder, as a separate point, Suicidal Ideation and the act of suicide has nothing to do with Cowardice. Are hallucinations from Schizophrenia cowardice? Are nervous ticks cowardice? Is PTSD Cowardice?
No they fracking well aren't and so kindly send that view back to the 1900s where it belongs.
Whatever. It was a personal attack and if I did what Meta pulled, I'd be banned right now
The discussion isn't about ideation. It's about the act itself. Committing suicide is in my own opinion a selfish and cowardly act
No, you wouldn't. You would have been if you called him an idiot, simply saying someone is demonstrating their ignorance doesn't constitute a personal attack. Or would you prefer this site does become a hugbox?
And your opinion is wrong as it's based on the assumption that people who commit suicide do so out of cowardice rather than a warped mental state, unless you want to say that a warped mental state is the result of cowardice which is even more grossly incorrect.
How can an opinion be wrong? That doesn't make sense. I don't care if somebody supported the idea of killing all humans to protect the earth, I would never say their opinion is wrong
I'm not discussing the person or the psychological issues, just the act of suicide itself. There are solutions out to help people struggling. People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts, those are what need to be focused on to make that thread into a rope
If an opinion is based on incorrect information then it can be wrong.
It's not like we are discussing preferences for films, where 'I like X' cannot be wrong, but your 'opinion' regarding suicide and mental illness is flat out incorrect. (Strawman goes here)
Max has already addressed this point.
And no shit there are solutions, but this bit
People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine, it's a complex illness with a number of contributing factors and causes. Generalising like that is incredibly dangerous and the worst disgrace of a Psychologist that I've ever had the misfortune of meeting holds to that mindset, It can all be fixed with a smile on your face and a thumb up your ass. Speaking only from the people I directly know, he hasn't helped any of the five of them who have been his patients. Because his idiotic closed mind refuses to look at the bigger picture regarding the cause of their problems.
Yes that's a bit of a side track but it pisses me off when people who don't understand mental illnesses make damaging statements like that one.
Sure some people can be helped by a bit of cheering up, but chances are they aren't clinically depressed. I've never heard of a case where someone has committed suicide from a case of the blues, plenty of people who make a 'rational choice' and countless more who commit suicide because of severe Depression, and I'm willing to bet that most of the people who jump that didn't appear to do so under the rational choice banding were Depressed, even those who aren't recorded as such because they were undiagnosed and untreated.
Wasn't trying say you can fix it with sunshine with smiles. I was saying that people who contemplate it sometimes hold it off because there's something keeping them anchored to life, which is good because that can be taken and built on. Even the slightest glimmer of hope can make the difference between a person living or dying
Well no shit, but that doesn't change that you keep confusing the blues/mild depression with clinical depression which is a whole other kettle of fish.
14739
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:23:49 PM »
It's something we all experience as people at one time or another; same with depression. If you've never had a time of feeling down in the dumps then I will call B.S
Yes, but there is a difference between self diagnosed depression, and medically diagnosed.
I know. But a person not going through clinical depression can face "plain" depression and kill themselves, despite not being mentally ill
*sigh* No, that would be clinical depression. Tell me, do you know the criteria for the diagnosis of it? As compared to something like SAD?
14740
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:21:02 PM »
You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine
Not only that, but it either has a neutral effect, or often makes everything worse.
I have friends and family that suffer from depression. Hearing "just cheer up!" a thousand times helps nothing, and can drive them deeper into their hole.
Indeed, anecdotally I have never once seen it make things better. From a personal note it simply made me angry, and I see that effect in other people I know. It never comes off as caring or helpful but as a smug facetiousness of 'I'm happy and you aren't, so why don't ya just cheer up?' even if that's the exact opposite of the real intention.
14741
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:18:53 PM »
If you get down to it, just about anything can be constituted as a "mental disease".
Which is why the DSM-V is regarded badly by a lot of leading Psychologists outside of the USA (And inside it). Not everything is a mental disorder, that's plain old horseshit.
If it's something that a person doesn't routinely feel, then chances it shouldn't be a disorder. In this case, a person getting anxiety due blackmail without ever having felt that way before. It's something we all experience as people at one time or another; same with depression. If you've never had a time of feeling down in the dumps then I will call B.S
No shit, but being down in the dumps =/= clinical depression. You don't blow your brains out over being down in the dumps.
14742
« on: October 21, 2014, 02:16:12 PM »
Cut the shit, right now.
Kinder: Meta did not launch a personal attack, he took issue with your ignorance of suicide.
I will say this once, anyone who continues this shit is getting a 20% warning. Anyone.
Cut the crap out, discuss it nicely and try not to act like little bitches when you argue.
And Kinder, as a separate point, Suicidal Ideation and the act of suicide has nothing to do with Cowardice. Are hallucinations from Schizophrenia cowardice? Are nervous ticks cowardice? Is PTSD Cowardice?
No they fracking well aren't and so kindly send that view back to the 1900s where it belongs.
Whatever. It was a personal attack and if I did what Meta pulled, I'd be banned right now
The discussion isn't about ideation. It's about the act itself. Committing suicide is in my own opinion a selfish and cowardly act
No, you wouldn't. You would have been if you called him an idiot, simply saying someone is demonstrating their ignorance doesn't constitute a personal attack. Or would you prefer this site does become a hugbox?
And your opinion is wrong as it's based on the assumption that people who commit suicide do so out of cowardice rather than a warped mental state, unless you want to say that a warped mental state is the result of cowardice which is even more grossly incorrect.
How can an opinion be wrong? That doesn't make sense. I don't care if somebody supported the idea of killing all humans to protect the earth, I would never say their opinion is wrong
I'm not discussing the person or the psychological issues, just the act of suicide itself. There are solutions out to help people struggling. People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts, those are what need to be focused on to make that thread into a rope
If an opinion is based on incorrect information then it can be wrong. It's not like we are discussing preferences for films, where 'I like X' cannot be wrong, but your 'opinion' regarding suicide and mental illness is flat out incorrect. (Strawman goes here) Max has already addressed this point. And no shit there are solutions, but this bit People facing it don't do it outright because they are hanging on a thread of deep-down positive and happy thoughts You can't just fix depression with smiles and sunshine, it's a complex illness with a number of contributing factors and causes. Generalising like that is incredibly dangerous and the worst disgrace of a Psychologist that I've ever had the misfortune of meeting holds to that mindset, It can all be fixed with a smile on your face and a thumb up your ass. Speaking only from the people I directly know, he hasn't helped any of the five of them who have been his patients. Because his idiotic closed mind refuses to look at the bigger picture regarding the cause of their problems. Yes that's a bit of a side track but it pisses me off when people who don't understand mental illnesses make damaging statements like that one. Sure some people can be helped by a bit of cheering up, but chances are they aren't clinically depressed. I've never heard of a case where someone has committed suicide from a case of the blues, plenty of people who make a ' rational choice' and countless more who commit suicide because of severe Depression, and I'm willing to bet that most of the people who jump that didn't appear to do so under the rational choice banding were Depressed, even those who aren't recorded as such because they were undiagnosed and untreated.
14743
« on: October 21, 2014, 12:09:50 PM »
I wasn't even trying to get any comments, I just wanted to prove a point!
God damn low lives are writing several replies all over the thread, and I'm not interested in any one of them. Please stop.
What point are you making? Why post a thread if you don't want replies?
I think this was spawned from his thread in the flood claiming he could post whatever in serious. Since this is... the shell... of an actual discussion it's being left in here. For now.
14744
« on: October 21, 2014, 10:58:48 AM »
Cut the shit, right now.
Kinder: Meta did not launch a personal attack, he took issue with your ignorance of suicide.
I will say this once, anyone who continues this shit is getting a 20% warning. Anyone.
Cut the crap out, discuss it nicely and try not to act like little bitches when you argue.
And Kinder, as a separate point, Suicidal Ideation and the act of suicide has nothing to do with Cowardice. Are hallucinations from Schizophrenia cowardice? Are nervous ticks cowardice? Is PTSD Cowardice?
No they fracking well aren't and so kindly send that view back to the 1900s where it belongs.
Whatever. It was a personal attack and if I did what Meta pulled, I'd be banned right now
The discussion isn't about ideation. It's about the act itself. Committing suicide is in my own opinion a selfish and cowardly act
No, you wouldn't. You would have been if you called him an idiot, simply saying someone is demonstrating their ignorance doesn't constitute a personal attack. Or would you prefer this site does become a hugbox? And your opinion is wrong as it's based on the assumption that people who commit suicide do so out of cowardice rather than a warped mental state, unless you want to say that a warped mental state is the result of cowardice which is even more grossly incorrect.
14745
« on: October 21, 2014, 10:46:48 AM »
Simply put - what are your thoughts on suicide? Is it a cowards way out? Do you know anyone who has thought of/actually attempted the act? Do you feel like enough emphasis is aimed at teenagers these days? Discuss.
Thoughts- I really don't like it. Someone must be in a world of shit if they would even consider doing it.
I believe its a cowards way out if you have loved ones supporting you. If you end it all and leave them, you're an asshole.
Few friends of mine from highschool and some parents of friends.
Its a touchy subject but with the whole "anti-bullying" campaign, yes.
The trouble is, as it has been said multiple times ITT, it's not really cowardice when someone's mental state is warped by their illness. To not go through with it takes a lot of strength, but that doesn't necessarily imply that those who do were weak. It mostly just shows that they weren't given the help they need, which can either be general support from family and friends but more often than not if it's that serious it requires a professional who knows how to deal with and treat the problem.
14746
« on: October 21, 2014, 10:42:17 AM »
Cut the shit, right now.
Kinder: Meta did not launch a personal attack, he took issue with your ignorance of suicide.
I will say this once, anyone who continues this shit is getting a 20% warning. Anyone.
Cut the crap out, discuss it nicely and try not to act like little bitches when you argue.
And Kinder, as a separate point, Suicidal Ideation and the act of suicide has nothing to do with Cowardice. Are hallucinations from Schizophrenia cowardice? Are nervous ticks cowardice? Is PTSD Cowardice?
No they fucking well aren't and so kindly send that view back to the 1900s where it belongs.
14747
« on: October 21, 2014, 09:12:37 AM »
>tfw you can try it and get it removed 
14748
« on: October 21, 2014, 08:46:31 AM »
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
>.>
I can help.
Me too. And probably Naja
It's decided then, we'll try and find him and drag the bugger here <_<
I know the county where he lives.
When do we do it?
Hmm, soon <.<
We need him here asap.
Abduction is highly illegal. It can land you in jail for quite a while.
Spoiler Go get him champs.
Ah it'll be fine, we're with the government!
*holds up fake badge*
See! :]
Well Meta is Interpol.
Ah yes, I'll grab the bonger and we'll all go hunt down the fugitive beetle >.> Everyone knows that they hibernate in winter so we should have an easy time sneaking up on him.
14749
« on: October 21, 2014, 08:31:37 AM »
I chuckled.
Neo-Nazis are probably the densest group on the planet, they don't have the drive or intelligence to actually carry out their ideals (Thank shrek for that though) and so they mostly just spend their time moaning about how their misfortune is life is all the fault of the jews, the zionists, the blacks, the arabs and how superior white people must be.
Then the equally idiotic ones are the more subversive bunch who pretend to be decent folks and try to push ideals like white pride, you can always spot these mongoloids online because they tend to copypaste the same 3 lines everywhere which is something like this
'Anti-Racist is codeword for Anti-White
White Flight is White Genocide
Blah blah skinheads blah blah'
I forget the last line.
Also take note of anyone with 88 in their username, they think it's such a clever codeword too.
Heil Hitler = HH = 8th letter of the alphabet + 8th letter of the alphabet = 88.
GG Slapheads.
14750
« on: October 21, 2014, 08:25:02 AM »
When will we get Onion Beetle?
Best poster ever.
We need him here.
We have three options, we can wait and see if he turns up.
We can concoct a trail of shitposts that will lead him to a cardboard box held up by a stick. Then we bash his fookin ed in and drag him here in chains.
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
Or I can just PM him on facebook
As could I, but that rather defeats the fun of it all.
14751
« on: October 21, 2014, 08:16:29 AM »
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
>.>
I can help.
Me too. And probably Naja
It's decided then, we'll try and find him and drag the bugger here <_<
I know the county where he lives.
When do we do it?
Hmm, soon <.<
We need him here asap.
Abduction is highly illegal. It can land you in jail for quite a while.
Spoiler Go get him champs.
Ah it'll be fine, we're with the government! *holds up fake badge* See! :]
14752
« on: October 21, 2014, 08:05:07 AM »
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
>.>
I can help.
Me too. And probably Naja
It's decided then, we'll try and find him and drag the bugger here <_<
I know the county where he lives.
When do we do it?
Hmm, soon <.< We need him here asap.
14753
« on: October 21, 2014, 07:50:27 AM »
Everything you post is made better with your avatar.
14754
« on: October 21, 2014, 07:49:16 AM »
Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
>.>
I can help.
Me too. And probably Naja
It's decided then, we'll try and find him and drag the bugger here <_<
14755
« on: October 21, 2014, 07:43:17 AM »
When will we get Onion Beetle?
Best poster ever.
We need him here. We have three options, we can wait and see if he turns up. We can concoct a trail of shitposts that will lead him to a cardboard box held up by a stick. Then we bash his fookin ed in and drag him here in chains. Or, we fly out to ireland and find the fecker and drag him here in person <_<
14756
« on: October 21, 2014, 07:06:54 AM »
Yay!
Hi Smi!
(I wish you could disable the serial killer smileys ._.)
You mean like this? 
Yes .-. How do you do that?
14757
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:46:12 AM »
There can be only one.
lol... I wonder if you could stick your dick all the way inside his knee
I laughed <.< But sadly that's heresy.
14758
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:45:17 AM »
Yay!
Hi Smi!
(I wish you could disable the serial killer smileys ._.)
14759
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:44:11 AM »
The Dune series is one that I've really wanted to get for a while, but lack of space limited my book purchases. Now that it is no longer a problem I'll be getting them veeeerry soon <_<
14760
« on: October 21, 2014, 06:43:18 AM »
There can be only one.
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