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961
« on: May 03, 2015, 07:52:45 PM »
Who is the best Sep7agon moderator?
962
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:58:24 PM »
Rose: July 30, 2014, 04:54:41 PM - July 30, 2014
haha what?
Rose was a guy who came here to harass people he didn't like. He and his 20-something alts were permad.
Oh, Rose actually came here? God, that guy was weird. Seemed to be a lot like Dustin.
963
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:55:23 PM »
I try to keep my testosterone low. I find I'm more calculating, tactical, and calm that way. It makes me more tired throughout the day, and reduces my strength and stamina, but its worth it. Keeping it low helps with my anger; and not being prone to beating somebody to within an inch of their life for minor irritations is nice.
you're a bad christian
if god was real you wouldn't be that way
Hard to be a bad Christian if I'm not even Christian.
since when?
A while, actually.
ayy look who's here!
964
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:37:23 PM »
I have immunity.
I'm too retarded to sue.
You aren't on my crosshairs. Yet.
965
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:33:45 PM »
But Flee is the law.
You're next.
966
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:31:38 PM »
I'm gonna sue you for millions, if not billions once I can get through to my lawyer!!
Just you wait.
967
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:31:02 PM »
Just wrapped up my 140 page thesis, so I'm glad to be done with that.
*cancels Flee's appointment* Where is your God now?
968
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:28:44 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
...And? Europeans can get in with their European citizenship.
We were referring to lower-class Muslim immigration, yes?
And I wouldn't imagine that too many of them would actually have EU citizenship. There are still requirements to naturalize as one.
Not really, no.
Uh, why are we even discussing this if we aren't talking about lower-class immigrants flooding the country? I can understand why that would be an issue, but if you're just referring to immigration in general....
Like I said, I don't care if they're "low class" from east Europe or whatever, the problem is that Britain and London specifically I becoming overcrowded because the government doesn't handle it properly. They aren't constructing new housing at a fast enough rate etc.
Hm. Now that's a very valid concern.
Why don't they just move them out into the countryside and construct new cities for them there? That would make a ton more sense rather than just stuffing them in London. Has that ever been proposed in Parliament before?
I don't know, really. Problem is most everybody wants to come to London, also.
But there are solutions and they aren't implemented.
Stupid. Then they should give them incentive to come to other parts of the country. Or maybe even expand the city limits of London, I dunno. There are a lot of solutions if the problem is having all of the immigrants crammed into a single city, even if the country isn't that large.
969
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:22:38 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
...And? Europeans can get in with their European citizenship.
We were referring to lower-class Muslim immigration, yes?
And I wouldn't imagine that too many of them would actually have EU citizenship. There are still requirements to naturalize as one.
Not really, no.
Uh, why are we even discussing this if we aren't talking about lower-class immigrants flooding the country? I can understand why that would be an issue, but if you're just referring to immigration in general....
Like I said, I don't care if they're "low class" from east Europe or whatever, the problem is that Britain and London specifically I becoming overcrowded because the government doesn't handle it properly. They aren't constructing new housing at a fast enough rate etc.
Hm. Now that's a very valid concern. Why don't they just move them out into the countryside and construct new cities for them there? That would make a ton more sense rather than just stuffing them in London. Has that ever been proposed in Parliament before?
970
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:19:23 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
...And? Europeans can get in with their European citizenship.
lol
>bitching about immigration
> is immigrant
I don't have a problem with immigrants, I have a problem with the way your government is handling immigration.
Same with the way the American government "handles" immigration.
You mean by having a set quota for letting immigrants receive some sort of work permit to stay in the US that is the same between every country. So you could have the same number migrate from Moldova to the US as you can from Mexico and the US. The problem there is that not enough of the immigrants are being allowed citizenship.
971
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:17:23 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
...And? Europeans can get in with their European citizenship.
We were referring to lower-class Muslim immigration, yes?
And I wouldn't imagine that too many of them would actually have EU citizenship. There are still requirements to naturalize as one.
Not really, no.
Uh, why are we even discussing this if we aren't talking about lower-class immigrants flooding the country? I can understand why that would be an issue, but if you're just referring to immigration in general....
972
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:14:36 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
...And? Europeans can get in with their European citizenship.
We were referring to lower-class Muslim immigration, yes? And I wouldn't imagine that too many of them would actually have EU citizenship. There are still requirements to naturalize as one.
973
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:13:25 PM »
Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
If Obama was allowed to run for another term, I'd totally vote for him.
He can run as VP. The Constitution only restricts being elected for a third term; if Biden died, Obama could take over just fine.
Yeah, but what are the chances of Biden actually taking office? He'd be 73/74 by the time elections happen, so if he was a 2-termer, he'd be out when he's 81/82. So he's really racking up the years now.
974
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:12:03 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
Not so much that as EU membership. UK isn't exactly opening its doors to refugees.
But the UK isn't a part of the Schengen area, so you would still need to show EU documentation at a border crossing to get into the country if I'm not mistaken.
975
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:08:39 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world?
Okay.
While his post is retarded, thinking a growing wage problem and housing problem as well as a huge strain on the NHS (which is more the Conservatives' fault than anything, but heavy immigration plays its part), yes immigration is an issue. They can't maintain this amount of people flooding the country.
This is all assuming that the current rate of immigration is maintained which would likely be as long as the instability from the Arab Spring keeps on happening.
976
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:06:44 PM »
Challenger's just biased and wanted to paint the UK as a Muslim-overrun shithole when it really isn't. The UK has always had a highly international community, and this isn't really so exceptional or such a big problem.
Pretty sure Muslim terrorists were just one part of my OP bro.
And Britain has only recently (mostly London) has had a huge influx of immigrants. Also, Britain has more Muslims than Lebanon. Let that sink in.
Lebanon is a secular country with a strong Christian minority and only 3 million people (4 million if you include Syrian refugees). That's not really saying much on account of the fact that the UK has well over 20 times the population of Lebanon. And what's the amount of Muslims who have come in recently? Ah, and Arab Spring is certainly playing a big role in the sudden influx. Though the UK should watch their border crossing for IS infiltrators.
977
« on: May 03, 2015, 06:04:28 PM »
Destroying the Governments of 1.6 billion people would make the situation worse and cause the biggest refugee crisis in Human history. And there are honestly more critical long-term and short-term problems to worry about than immigration. Challenger's just biased and wanted to paint the UK as a Muslim-overrun shithole when it really isn't. The UK has always had a highly international community, and this isn't really so exceptional or such a big problem.
Though I think that this should be addressed as an economic problem rather than a problem whose solution would require curbed immigration.
But the whole Muslim thing is a growing problem. Otherwise you wouldn't have groups like Pegida forming.
It's overblown like hell. PEGIDA is filled with NDP shills and other racists. Many parts of Germany are quite conservative unfortunately.
978
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:59:43 PM »
Personally, I'm hoping for a Biden/Obama ticket.
If Obama was allowed to run for another term, I'd totally vote for him.
979
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:58:57 PM »
And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
And this is where you prove to be dumber than Casper.
Putting off a not-so urgent immigration "crisis" is dumber than going to war with half the world? Okay.
980
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:57:07 PM »
And yet people think immigration is a good thing.
It's fine when it's the individual or family, but not when it turns into an infestation.
Sigh.
It's good because it brings in foreign cultures, foreign knowledge, foreign money, foreign entrepreneurs, new people for the market to cater to, etc.
And look what a lot of good these foreigners are doing. Like I said, it works when civilized cultures try to mix, but not when there's such a disparity between the two.
Lots of people escaping conflict suddenly end up in the UK at once. What do you expect? Getting out of poverty isn't easy in any country you're in, and many people still never do manage to escape poverty.
Then sucks to be them. Life isn't fair, and it isn't anyone's obligation to help others. So don't try to bring down others. If you need help that bad, help yourself, don't expect someone else to.
I remember when I used to think that.
I was a very sad person back then.
But I'll just tell you this. It's not as simple as "sucks to be you" or "help yourself". If it were, do you think that these issues we're facing would even exist?
I know it's not as easy as "help yourself", but when it's all you can do, its either do that or do nothing.
Hm, I guess it's like our trash problem, now that I think of it. When it starts filling up, where do you put it?
The vast majority of these refugees are still citizens to their native countries, so you have to deal with the situation delicately, so you can't just boot them out unless you want to start a diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia or Iran. Whatever the solution is, it's not easy.
Why it's getting to be so difficult is because only half is worried about hurting someone's feelings. It's not like the middle east can't be dealt with, it's that they're caught up with trying to deal with them peacefully.
"Hurting somebody's feelings" is a huge deal when they're the world's largest petrol exporter, and known to hold long-term grudges against people who annoy them.
So just go in and get rid of them. It's not like we don't have the ability to. But then people bitch that it's "morally wrong". All the while what they actually do is just as bad as what we should do.
And then face the fact that their oil-producing capacity will be greatly reduced for years, trying to rebuild Saudi Arabia which would cost hundreds upon hundreds of billions, still having to take on one of the top 10 strongest Armies on Earth, and having to deal with any power vacuum that al-Qaeda and Islamic State would exploit within heartbeats?
There's a multi-trillion dollar investment right there. And you'd prefer that over dealing with a couple million immigrants?
I'd prefer dealing with the source of the problem over dealing with the issues they cause.
So a multi-trillion dollar investment, tens of thousands of deaths, and destroying whatever semblance of stability the Middle East has left it is!!
Thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron.
Anytime.
Because obviously what we're doing now is working so well.
Yeah, so let's instead start what would be the most bloody and costly war since wwII!
Well if it gets rid of the middle east, then why not?
May as well take care of China, too, since they'll swoop in like vultures just like the Russians did after WWII. Better to learn from history or else be doomed to repeat it.
You're too stupid to talk to if you're being serious.
Yup, I'm stupid alright.
But you know China would get involved if North Korea did, and North Korea is no better than the middle east in their unpredictability.
"hur let's totally destroy a volatile region with 300 million people living in it cause of immigrants! Then let's destroy China which has 1.3 billion people cuz lol!"
Destroying the lives of a quarter of the world's population because of a couple of immigrants? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yup, this is totally what I'm saying. Because clearly we need to kill every single person in both places. Just to be super sure.
Killing is one way to destroy lives, but not the one I was mentioning. Destroying a country's Government would destroy the lives of most of the people living under it as well. Then you'll get hundreds of times of refugees you'd be getting normally.
Well then we better figure that out when we come to that point. But we won't know till we get there. And most likely never will, because we'll just keep giving in just to keep them quiet, right?
So finding a solution will somehow take forcing the situation to become hundreds of times worse and plunging half the world into instability?
You are mentally retarded. Case closed.
So you're one of those people who like to bitch about a problem rather than trying and looking for a solution, because I don't see you coming up with any ideas.
Lol. If there were a workable solution out right now, then it would have been implemented already. And no, a solution that makes it worse doesn't count. And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
Firstly, you can only assume it would get worse, you don't know for certain. And so what? We acknowledge that it's a problem, but just leave it be until it's a serious problem? Isn't that just waiting until it's too late? Because I highly doubt it's something that's going to fizzle out on its own. Especially if they hold grudges for as long as you say.
Destroying the Governments of 1.6 billion people would make the situation worse and cause the biggest refugee crisis in Human history. And there are honestly more critical long-term and short-term problems to worry about than immigration. Challenger's just biased and wanted to paint the UK as a Muslim-overrun shithole when it really isn't. The UK has always had a highly international community, and this isn't really so exceptional or such a big problem. Though I think that this should be addressed as an economic problem rather than a problem whose solution would require curbed immigration.
981
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:52:26 PM »
Or "Nigger Faggot Circlejerk"
That has a better ring to it.
I have heard that the mods here are liars and to get ahead you have to buddy up to one of them. Who should I go after first in order to secure my place here?
Flee and Mr P are easy ones.
Cheat's easy once you send him nudes. Psy has a soft spot for money.
I got 3 members banned on command so.... it works. Once you have a mod in your pocket you can PM and have your desired member blacklisted.
Lol
982
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:51:02 PM »
No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while
I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism
>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body
>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
You can be socially liberal without being libertarian. I support drug legalization myself.
I don't align with any party, but pretty much every time I've told anyone about my most important political values, they've identified me as a libertarian.
I'm more concerned with it in a social sense, like the right to be a prostitute, take hard drugs, or kill yourself/consenting others. I don't really care about the issues most libertarians in power these days are preaching...the economic side of it.
So I guess I'd be more of a radical liberal then a libertarian, but I've never seen a mainstream Democrat come even close to representing my ideals, whereas people like Gary Johnson sometimes do.
The difference (assumptions) between being a Liberal and being Libertarian is that Libertarianism implies a more laissez faire approach to economy, while Liberal more implies the Government taking a slightly more hands-on approach.
983
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:48:40 PM »
And yet people think immigration is a good thing.
It's fine when it's the individual or family, but not when it turns into an infestation.
Sigh.
It's good because it brings in foreign cultures, foreign knowledge, foreign money, foreign entrepreneurs, new people for the market to cater to, etc.
And look what a lot of good these foreigners are doing. Like I said, it works when civilized cultures try to mix, but not when there's such a disparity between the two.
Lots of people escaping conflict suddenly end up in the UK at once. What do you expect? Getting out of poverty isn't easy in any country you're in, and many people still never do manage to escape poverty.
Then sucks to be them. Life isn't fair, and it isn't anyone's obligation to help others. So don't try to bring down others. If you need help that bad, help yourself, don't expect someone else to.
I remember when I used to think that.
I was a very sad person back then.
But I'll just tell you this. It's not as simple as "sucks to be you" or "help yourself". If it were, do you think that these issues we're facing would even exist?
I know it's not as easy as "help yourself", but when it's all you can do, its either do that or do nothing.
Hm, I guess it's like our trash problem, now that I think of it. When it starts filling up, where do you put it?
The vast majority of these refugees are still citizens to their native countries, so you have to deal with the situation delicately, so you can't just boot them out unless you want to start a diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia or Iran. Whatever the solution is, it's not easy.
Why it's getting to be so difficult is because only half is worried about hurting someone's feelings. It's not like the middle east can't be dealt with, it's that they're caught up with trying to deal with them peacefully.
"Hurting somebody's feelings" is a huge deal when they're the world's largest petrol exporter, and known to hold long-term grudges against people who annoy them.
So just go in and get rid of them. It's not like we don't have the ability to. But then people bitch that it's "morally wrong". All the while what they actually do is just as bad as what we should do.
And then face the fact that their oil-producing capacity will be greatly reduced for years, trying to rebuild Saudi Arabia which would cost hundreds upon hundreds of billions, still having to take on one of the top 10 strongest Armies on Earth, and having to deal with any power vacuum that al-Qaeda and Islamic State would exploit within heartbeats?
There's a multi-trillion dollar investment right there. And you'd prefer that over dealing with a couple million immigrants?
I'd prefer dealing with the source of the problem over dealing with the issues they cause.
So a multi-trillion dollar investment, tens of thousands of deaths, and destroying whatever semblance of stability the Middle East has left it is!!
Thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron.
Anytime.
Because obviously what we're doing now is working so well.
Yeah, so let's instead start what would be the most bloody and costly war since wwII!
Well if it gets rid of the middle east, then why not?
May as well take care of China, too, since they'll swoop in like vultures just like the Russians did after WWII. Better to learn from history or else be doomed to repeat it.
You're too stupid to talk to if you're being serious.
Yup, I'm stupid alright.
But you know China would get involved if North Korea did, and North Korea is no better than the middle east in their unpredictability.
"hur let's totally destroy a volatile region with 300 million people living in it cause of immigrants! Then let's destroy China which has 1.3 billion people cuz lol!"
Destroying the lives of a quarter of the world's population because of a couple of immigrants? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yup, this is totally what I'm saying. Because clearly we need to kill every single person in both places. Just to be super sure.
Killing is one way to destroy lives, but not the one I was mentioning. Destroying a country's Government would destroy the lives of most of the people living under it as well. Then you'll get hundreds of times of refugees you'd be getting normally.
Well then we better figure that out when we come to that point. But we won't know till we get there. And most likely never will, because we'll just keep giving in just to keep them quiet, right?
So finding a solution will somehow take forcing the situation to become hundreds of times worse and plunging half the world into instability?
You are mentally retarded. Case closed.
So you're one of those people who like to bitch about a problem rather than trying and looking for a solution, because I don't see you coming up with any ideas.
Lol. If there were a workable solution out right now, then it would have been implemented already. And no, a solution that makes it worse doesn't count. And this problem isn't urgent enough to need to be solved immediately.
984
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:45:42 PM »
No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while
I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism
>totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
>thinking someone other than you should have any say whatsoever over what you put into your own body
>thinking that any kind of solely consensual action should be prohibited
You can be socially liberal without being libertarian. I support drug legalization myself.
985
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:44:18 PM »
And yet people think immigration is a good thing.
It's fine when it's the individual or family, but not when it turns into an infestation.
Sigh.
It's good because it brings in foreign cultures, foreign knowledge, foreign money, foreign entrepreneurs, new people for the market to cater to, etc.
And look what a lot of good these foreigners are doing. Like I said, it works when civilized cultures try to mix, but not when there's such a disparity between the two.
Lots of people escaping conflict suddenly end up in the UK at once. What do you expect? Getting out of poverty isn't easy in any country you're in, and many people still never do manage to escape poverty.
Then sucks to be them. Life isn't fair, and it isn't anyone's obligation to help others. So don't try to bring down others. If you need help that bad, help yourself, don't expect someone else to.
I remember when I used to think that.
I was a very sad person back then.
But I'll just tell you this. It's not as simple as "sucks to be you" or "help yourself". If it were, do you think that these issues we're facing would even exist?
I know it's not as easy as "help yourself", but when it's all you can do, its either do that or do nothing.
Hm, I guess it's like our trash problem, now that I think of it. When it starts filling up, where do you put it?
The vast majority of these refugees are still citizens to their native countries, so you have to deal with the situation delicately, so you can't just boot them out unless you want to start a diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia or Iran. Whatever the solution is, it's not easy.
Why it's getting to be so difficult is because only half is worried about hurting someone's feelings. It's not like the middle east can't be dealt with, it's that they're caught up with trying to deal with them peacefully.
"Hurting somebody's feelings" is a huge deal when they're the world's largest petrol exporter, and known to hold long-term grudges against people who annoy them.
So just go in and get rid of them. It's not like we don't have the ability to. But then people bitch that it's "morally wrong". All the while what they actually do is just as bad as what we should do.
And then face the fact that their oil-producing capacity will be greatly reduced for years, trying to rebuild Saudi Arabia which would cost hundreds upon hundreds of billions, still having to take on one of the top 10 strongest Armies on Earth, and having to deal with any power vacuum that al-Qaeda and Islamic State would exploit within heartbeats?
There's a multi-trillion dollar investment right there. And you'd prefer that over dealing with a couple million immigrants?
I'd prefer dealing with the source of the problem over dealing with the issues they cause.
So a multi-trillion dollar investment, tens of thousands of deaths, and destroying whatever semblance of stability the Middle East has left it is!!
Thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron.
Anytime.
Because obviously what we're doing now is working so well.
Yeah, so let's instead start what would be the most bloody and costly war since wwII!
Well if it gets rid of the middle east, then why not?
May as well take care of China, too, since they'll swoop in like vultures just like the Russians did after WWII. Better to learn from history or else be doomed to repeat it.
You're too stupid to talk to if you're being serious.
Yup, I'm stupid alright.
But you know China would get involved if North Korea did, and North Korea is no better than the middle east in their unpredictability.
"hur let's totally destroy a volatile region with 300 million people living in it cause of immigrants! Then let's destroy China which has 1.3 billion people cuz lol!"
Destroying the lives of a quarter of the world's population because of a couple of immigrants? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yup, this is totally what I'm saying. Because clearly we need to kill every single person in both places. Just to be super sure.
Killing is one way to destroy lives, but not the one I was mentioning. Destroying a country's Government would destroy the lives of most of the people living under it as well. Then you'll get hundreds of times of refugees you'd be getting normally.
Well then we better figure that out when we come to that point. But we won't know till we get there. And most likely never will, because we'll just keep giving in just to keep them quiet, right?
So finding a solution will somehow take forcing the situation to become hundreds of times worse and plunging half the world into instability? You are mentally retarded. Case closed.
986
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:40:57 PM »
No one on that list is progressive enough, so I'm just on the "fuck Walker" campaign.
>No one progressive enough
>Bernie Sanders first openly Socialist candidate in a while
I don't think Xi Jinping can run Class.
I don't want a progressive socialist candidate, I want a progressive libertarian candidate.
>libertarianism >totally not the biggest schmuck bait out there
987
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:39:26 PM »
And yet people think immigration is a good thing.
It's fine when it's the individual or family, but not when it turns into an infestation.
Sigh.
It's good because it brings in foreign cultures, foreign knowledge, foreign money, foreign entrepreneurs, new people for the market to cater to, etc.
And look what a lot of good these foreigners are doing. Like I said, it works when civilized cultures try to mix, but not when there's such a disparity between the two.
Lots of people escaping conflict suddenly end up in the UK at once. What do you expect? Getting out of poverty isn't easy in any country you're in, and many people still never do manage to escape poverty.
Then sucks to be them. Life isn't fair, and it isn't anyone's obligation to help others. So don't try to bring down others. If you need help that bad, help yourself, don't expect someone else to.
I remember when I used to think that.
I was a very sad person back then.
But I'll just tell you this. It's not as simple as "sucks to be you" or "help yourself". If it were, do you think that these issues we're facing would even exist?
I know it's not as easy as "help yourself", but when it's all you can do, its either do that or do nothing.
Hm, I guess it's like our trash problem, now that I think of it. When it starts filling up, where do you put it?
The vast majority of these refugees are still citizens to their native countries, so you have to deal with the situation delicately, so you can't just boot them out unless you want to start a diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia or Iran. Whatever the solution is, it's not easy.
Why it's getting to be so difficult is because only half is worried about hurting someone's feelings. It's not like the middle east can't be dealt with, it's that they're caught up with trying to deal with them peacefully.
"Hurting somebody's feelings" is a huge deal when they're the world's largest petrol exporter, and known to hold long-term grudges against people who annoy them.
So just go in and get rid of them. It's not like we don't have the ability to. But then people bitch that it's "morally wrong". All the while what they actually do is just as bad as what we should do.
And then face the fact that their oil-producing capacity will be greatly reduced for years, trying to rebuild Saudi Arabia which would cost hundreds upon hundreds of billions, still having to take on one of the top 10 strongest Armies on Earth, and having to deal with any power vacuum that al-Qaeda and Islamic State would exploit within heartbeats?
There's a multi-trillion dollar investment right there. And you'd prefer that over dealing with a couple million immigrants?
I'd prefer dealing with the source of the problem over dealing with the issues they cause.
So a multi-trillion dollar investment, tens of thousands of deaths, and destroying whatever semblance of stability the Middle East has left it is!!
Thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron.
Anytime.
Because obviously what we're doing now is working so well.
Yeah, so let's instead start what would be the most bloody and costly war since wwII!
Well if it gets rid of the middle east, then why not?
May as well take care of China, too, since they'll swoop in like vultures just like the Russians did after WWII. Better to learn from history or else be doomed to repeat it.
You're too stupid to talk to if you're being serious.
Yup, I'm stupid alright.
But you know China would get involved if North Korea did, and North Korea is no better than the middle east in their unpredictability.
"hur let's totally destroy a volatile region with 300 million people living in it cause of immigrants! Then let's destroy China which has 1.3 billion people cuz lol!"
Destroying the lives of a quarter of the world's population because of a couple of immigrants? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
Yup, this is totally what I'm saying. Because clearly we need to kill every single person in both places. Just to be super sure.
Killing is one way to destroy lives, but not the one I was mentioning. Destroying a country's Government would destroy the lives of most of the people living under it as well. Then you'll get hundreds of times of refugees you'd be getting normally.
988
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:35:18 PM »
Or "Nigger Faggot Circlejerk"
That has a better ring to it.
I have heard that the mods here are liars and to get ahead you have to buddy up to one of them. Who should I go after first in order to secure my place here?
Flee and Mr P are easy ones.
989
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:34:42 PM »
So the Democrat's stated official policy is to block anything the other party proposes?
No, but it's naive to think voting doesn't take place across party lines for both the Democrats and the Republicans.
And, not to mention, it was after all George Bush who increased Medicare by 131pc.
Well, yeah. Typically when a party is in power, it's by a fairly slight majority. Not to mention that there are divisions within the parties themselves. For example, there were many Democrats who voted against ACA even though that was pretty much Obama's signature act.
990
« on: May 03, 2015, 05:33:01 PM »
And yet people think immigration is a good thing.
It's fine when it's the individual or family, but not when it turns into an infestation.
Sigh.
It's good because it brings in foreign cultures, foreign knowledge, foreign money, foreign entrepreneurs, new people for the market to cater to, etc.
And look what a lot of good these foreigners are doing. Like I said, it works when civilized cultures try to mix, but not when there's such a disparity between the two.
Lots of people escaping conflict suddenly end up in the UK at once. What do you expect? Getting out of poverty isn't easy in any country you're in, and many people still never do manage to escape poverty.
Then sucks to be them. Life isn't fair, and it isn't anyone's obligation to help others. So don't try to bring down others. If you need help that bad, help yourself, don't expect someone else to.
I remember when I used to think that.
I was a very sad person back then.
But I'll just tell you this. It's not as simple as "sucks to be you" or "help yourself". If it were, do you think that these issues we're facing would even exist?
I know it's not as easy as "help yourself", but when it's all you can do, its either do that or do nothing.
Hm, I guess it's like our trash problem, now that I think of it. When it starts filling up, where do you put it?
The vast majority of these refugees are still citizens to their native countries, so you have to deal with the situation delicately, so you can't just boot them out unless you want to start a diplomatic crisis with Saudi Arabia or Iran. Whatever the solution is, it's not easy.
Why it's getting to be so difficult is because only half is worried about hurting someone's feelings. It's not like the middle east can't be dealt with, it's that they're caught up with trying to deal with them peacefully.
"Hurting somebody's feelings" is a huge deal when they're the world's largest petrol exporter, and known to hold long-term grudges against people who annoy them.
So just go in and get rid of them. It's not like we don't have the ability to. But then people bitch that it's "morally wrong". All the while what they actually do is just as bad as what we should do.
And then face the fact that their oil-producing capacity will be greatly reduced for years, trying to rebuild Saudi Arabia which would cost hundreds upon hundreds of billions, still having to take on one of the top 10 strongest Armies on Earth, and having to deal with any power vacuum that al-Qaeda and Islamic State would exploit within heartbeats?
There's a multi-trillion dollar investment right there. And you'd prefer that over dealing with a couple million immigrants?
I'd prefer dealing with the source of the problem over dealing with the issues they cause.
So a multi-trillion dollar investment, tens of thousands of deaths, and destroying whatever semblance of stability the Middle East has left it is!!
Thanks for outing yourself as a complete moron.
Anytime.
Because obviously what we're doing now is working so well.
Yeah, so let's instead start what would be the most bloody and costly war since wwII!
Well if it gets rid of the middle east, then why not?
May as well take care of China, too, since they'll swoop in like vultures just like the Russians did after WWII. Better to learn from history or else be doomed to repeat it.
You're too stupid to talk to if you're being serious.
Yup, I'm stupid alright.
But you know China would get involved if North Korea did, and North Korea is no better than the middle east in their unpredictability.
"hur let's totally destroy a volatile region with 300 million people living in it cause of immigrants! Then let's destroy China which has 1.3 billion people cuz lol!" Destroying the lives of a quarter of the world's population because of a couple of immigrants? LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL
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