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4621
« on: December 22, 2014, 06:28:38 PM »
Wait, are you fucking kidding me?
Pravda is STILL the official newspaper?
Not anymore, but it's still out there.
Is it still as unabashedly statist and authoritarian?
Well, I think Putin has ordered it to become a conspiracy theory generator.... Can't disobey der Fuhrer himself of course.
4622
« on: December 22, 2014, 06:22:39 PM »
Wait, are you fucking kidding me?
Pravda is STILL the official newspaper?
Not anymore, but it's still out there.
4624
« on: December 22, 2014, 06:05:16 PM »
isn't it common knowledge that reagan's been in power since 7164?
ftfy
4625
« on: December 22, 2014, 05:58:32 PM »
Heil mother russia
Fix'd cause of Fascism
4626
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:54:02 PM »
>lives in California
:(
4627
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:53:02 PM »
Of course the liberal weenies would say Reagan, I guess they've stepped up their indoctrination.
"Who's the worst?"
"REAGAN WITHOUT A DOUBT"
"Uh, why?"
"BECAUSE REAGAN WAS REAGAN AND THAT'S BAD"
Well, there's that part where he was giving Saddam Hussein chemical weapons to gas Iranians and Kurds... ..And then that part where he (illegally, of course) gave money to terrorist organizations in Central America who he knew were deliberately killing and maiming civilians... ....then the constant interventions abroad.
4628
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:46:55 PM »
If Putin is so weak, then why is he defying what the West wants? That's not being weak, that's being string and standing up for yourself
Bravado and charisma doesn't mean you're a strong leader. A shepherd who can lead his flock into a volcano still isn't a very good shepherd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
During Putin's first premiership and presidency (1999–2008), real incomes increased by a factor of 2.5, real wages more than tripled; unemployment and poverty more than halved, and the Russians' self-assessed life satisfaction rose significantly.[9] Putin's first presidency was marked by high economic growth: the Russian economy grew for eight straight years, seeing GDP increase by 72% in PPP (as for nominal GDP, 600%).[9][10][11][12][13] As Russia's president, Putin and the Federal Assembly passed into law a flat income tax of 13%, a reduced profits tax, and new land and legal codes.[14][15] As Prime Minister, Putin oversaw large-scale military and police reform. His energy policy has affirmed Russia's position as an energy superpower.[citation needed] Putin supported high-tech industries such as the nuclear and defence industries. A rise in foreign investment[16] contributed to a boom in such sectors as the automotive industry. However, capital investment recently dropped 2.5% because of the crisis in Ukraine according to forecasts by economists from the IMF.[17] Putin has cultivated an image of a strongman and a popular cultural icon in Russia.
Because of rising oil prices. That was it.
Now that the oil prices are going down, so is his economy. The same thing happened back in Soviet days where their economic growth was based on oil prices.
And I'm not denying the Russian economy is going to end up deeper in the shitter. What this whole thread is about, that despite fall of Russia's economy, the people still see Putin in a positive manner. But a decrease in oil prices is good for the world economy as it saves people more money, which they can use to spend on other things that Russia exports
Well, since Russia is becoming increasingly isolationalist and oil makes up over 2/3rds of their exports.... I don't think there are going to be any Russian exports to buy here. They're probably going to China or Kazakhstan or the Axis of Resistance or somewhere like that.
4629
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:38:55 PM »
 Looks fitting, yes?
4630
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:18:56 PM »
If Putin is so weak, then why is he defying what the West wants? That's not being weak, that's being string and standing up for yourself
Bravado and charisma doesn't mean you're a strong leader. A shepherd who can lead his flock into a volcano still isn't a very good shepherd.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vladimir_Putin
During Putin's first premiership and presidency (1999–2008), real incomes increased by a factor of 2.5, real wages more than tripled; unemployment and poverty more than halved, and the Russians' self-assessed life satisfaction rose significantly.[9] Putin's first presidency was marked by high economic growth: the Russian economy grew for eight straight years, seeing GDP increase by 72% in PPP (as for nominal GDP, 600%).[9][10][11][12][13] As Russia's president, Putin and the Federal Assembly passed into law a flat income tax of 13%, a reduced profits tax, and new land and legal codes.[14][15] As Prime Minister, Putin oversaw large-scale military and police reform. His energy policy has affirmed Russia's position as an energy superpower.[citation needed] Putin supported high-tech industries such as the nuclear and defence industries. A rise in foreign investment[16] contributed to a boom in such sectors as the automotive industry. However, capital investment recently dropped 2.5% because of the crisis in Ukraine according to forecasts by economists from the IMF.[17] Putin has cultivated an image of a strongman and a popular cultural icon in Russia.
Because of rising oil prices. That was it. Now that the oil prices are going down, so is his economy. The same thing happened back in Soviet days where their economic growth was based on oil prices.
4631
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:17:33 PM »
Then why is his support over 80% currently? Read the OP before posting. kthnxs
We've explained why already, but clearly it didn't stay in your head for long.
No you didn't
It's cause Putin is ramping up his propaganda machine massively and using far more nationalist/populist rhetoric. But this is artificial public support that'll just evaporate once the Russians are really in for their money (or out for their money) economically in two years. Putin's just a worthless, generic leech who's transforming Russia into a Fascist rogue state.
Unfortunately it'll be another jackass preaching the same old bullshit and the Russians will eat it up. Maybe not, but I doubt it.
Eighty-one percent of Russians approve of the way Putin is handling his job as president, which is a significant increase from his 58 percent approval rating shortly after his most recent inauguration in May 2012 [1].
I guess since my explanation wasn't good or clear enough for you, I'll have to explain it in another way...
In police/repressive states, the leaders always have more popularity because generally the only perspective you're getting is that which is coming from the Government's propaganda arm. Xi Jinping (China) has an approval of around 90%, while leaders like Obama and Cameron have approval ratings hovering around 50%. Putin's popularity is artificial, and once the nationalistic fervor going on in Russia subsides, his approval will tumble like his economy. This is a big reason on why Fascism isn't sustainable. You need to constantly feed it, or else people will realize how screwed over they've been and revolt. It's what happened in the USSR in 1991.
>comparing Russia to China
toplel
Unlike China, Russians have access to the internet and with that, social media and international news. I suggest putting that Western propaganda down
The Chinese have internet as well, you know. It's just heavily censored. And Russia is heading in that same direction. Russia has been doing even more surveillance than even the United States recently, and the amount of websites being censored is skyrocketing. Not to mention all of the independent news companies in Russia being shut down and being replaced by massive companies owned by cronies. And since most people don't have the time to listen to news other than that of what the state provides, it very much is the case that the only perspective many Russians are getting is Putin's perspective.
4632
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:09:13 PM »
Then why is his support over 80% currently? Read the OP before posting. kthnxs
We've explained why already, but clearly it didn't stay in your head for long.
No you didn't
It's cause Putin is ramping up his propaganda machine massively and using far more nationalist/populist rhetoric. But this is artificial public support that'll just evaporate once the Russians are really in for their money (or out for their money) economically in two years. Putin's just a worthless, generic leech who's transforming Russia into a Fascist rogue state.
Unfortunately it'll be another jackass preaching the same old bullshit and the Russians will eat it up. Maybe not, but I doubt it.
Eighty-one percent of Russians approve of the way Putin is handling his job as president, which is a significant increase from his 58 percent approval rating shortly after his most recent inauguration in May 2012 [1].
I guess since my explanation wasn't good or clear enough for you, I'll have to explain it in another way... In police/repressive states, the leaders always have more popularity because generally the only perspective you're getting is that which is coming from the Government's propaganda arm. Xi Jinping (China) has an approval of around 90%, while leaders like Obama and Cameron have approval ratings hovering around 50%. Putin's popularity is artificial, and once the nationalistic fervor going on in Russia subsides, his approval will tumble like his economy. This is a big reason on why Fascism isn't sustainable. You need to constantly feed it, or else people will realize how screwed over they've been and revolt. It's what happened in the USSR in 1991.
4633
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:03:31 PM »
But monkeys can't be human. :^(
4634
« on: December 22, 2014, 04:02:52 PM »
Then why is his support over 80% currently? Read the OP before posting. kthnxs
We've explained why already, but clearly it didn't stay in your head for long.
No you didn't
It's cause Putin is ramping up his propaganda machine massively and using far more nationalist/populist rhetoric. But this is artificial public support that'll just evaporate once the Russians are really in for their money (or out for their money) economically in two years. Putin's just a worthless, generic leech who's transforming Russia into a Fascist rogue state. Unfortunately it'll be another jackass preaching the same old bullshit and the Russians will eat it up. Maybe not, but I doubt it.
4635
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:49:11 PM »
ur getin b&
4636
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:39:26 PM »
Except Ukraine owed Russia a lot of money. Russia had all the rights to "fuck with" Ukraine One day China is going to coming knocking on America's door for it's money they have given us
Are you fucking serious?
At least all of these pointless debates with Kinder are worth it in the end, as he inevitably makes a massive ass of himself somewhere during the process. And to think that I thought Kinder had changed..... :/
4637
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:29:37 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Hitler and Mussolini were strong leaders as well, and look at where they got their countries to...
And at least Hitler had the excuse of being a massive drug-addict and Mussolini was more motivated by a delusional ideology than personal wealth.
Seeing as Hitler managed to bring Germany out of one of the worst economic disasters in history, I don't see where you're getting at
Learn your history, you fucking retard.
Reported for rule breaking. Enjoy your ban
I don't think they'll care since what I said was in response to you defending a drug-addicted tyrant who nearly destroyed the country I've been absolutely dying to live in.
I was defending Hitler? Oh boy, you get butt hurt that I proved you wrong and attempt to respond with false responses and petty insults. Go back to Meme Land; nobody even wants you on this site
"Seeing as Hitler managed to bring Germany out of one of the worst economic disasters in history, I don't see where you're getting at"
4638
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:28:52 PM »
Then why is his support over 80% currently? Read the OP before posting. kthnxs
We've explained why already, but clearly it didn't stay in your head for long.
4639
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:24:54 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Hitler and Mussolini were strong leaders as well, and look at where they got their countries to...
And at least Hitler had the excuse of being a massive drug-addict and Mussolini was more motivated by a delusional ideology than personal wealth.
Seeing as Hitler managed to bring Germany out of one of the worst economic disasters in history, I don't see where you're getting at
Learn your history, you fucking retard.
Reported for rule breaking. Enjoy your ban
I don't think they'll care since what I said was in response to you defending a drug-addicted tyrant who nearly destroyed the country I've been absolutely dying to live in.
4640
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:23:10 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Strong leaders don't run their country into the ground. Putin is a pathetically weak leader, no amount of posturing will ever change that.
How is he running the country into the ground? It's the hypocritical West that's doing it; America can invade a country but not Russia?
The difference between America and Russia is that America never annexed Iraq/Afghanistan against their will and say that they were rightfully parts of "Greater America". There were a lot of opinion polls with Iraqi/Afghan civilians after their respective invasions and a majority of them supported the Americans coming in. And please don't cite that bullshit Crimean referendum. It is literally impossible for something as controversial as changing which country you're living in to get anywhere even close to 98% approval.
So you can cite an opinion poll, but I can't? Talk about moving the goal posts to suit your needs. Just like Kosovo, Crimea wanted to break away from it's host country and Russia provided them support
An opinion poll has nowhere near the same magnitude as a blatantly rigged referendum . And Putin used that same BS rhetoric of the "Kosovo precedent" to justify stealing Crimea. And Kosovo and Crimea are different stories. Kosovo wanted to be independent, and they were effectively independent for 9 years before actually declaring it. But with Crimea, they were Ukrainian one day, and Russian the next.
Stop trying to move the goal posts here. If the West can go into Kosovo, then Russia has the same right to go into a place that wanted to be independent. This is the exact reason the West is so damn hypocritical of somebody they're scared shitless of
The west never went into Kosovo. Kosovo wanted to be independent, they kicked the Serbian troops themselves, and they went right into the West's hands. Russian troops went into Crimea, they sacked their parliament and replaced it with puppets who wanted independence, and then declared that Crimea would be hosting a referendum. Hell, Putin even admitted to deploying Russian troops in Crimea at the end of February, and the Ukrainians couldn't do jack shit against them cause they were in the middle of a goddamn revolution.
4641
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:20:47 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Strong leaders don't run their country into the ground. Putin is a pathetically weak leader, no amount of posturing will ever change that.
How is he running the country into the ground?
By fucking with Ukraine knowing damn well sanctions would be put into place. He doesn't care, because his personal wealth isn't really affected.
It's the hypocritical West that's doing it; Calm down there Babushka.
America can invade a country but not Russia? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/loaded-question
Except Ukraine owed Russia a lot of money. Russia had all the rights to "fuck with" Ukraine One day China is going to coming knocking on America's door for it's money they have given us
Just pointing out how the West are masters at hypocrisy
Nice question dodging
I'm sure RT forgot to mention that the debt money was accumulated almost entirely by the Russian puppets who were ruling Ukraine at the time. Putin's tactics in the end of 2013 obviously showed this. The Russians were playing loan sharks so they Ukrainians had no chance of repaying as they were poor as shit.
And the people of Ukraine elected their president
"elected" This was also during that turbulent time in Ukraine's post-Soviet history when it was one of the most corrupt countries in the world.
4642
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:18:15 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Hitler and Mussolini were strong leaders as well, and look at where they got their countries to...
And at least Hitler had the excuse of being a massive drug-addict and Mussolini was more motivated by a delusional ideology than personal wealth.
Seeing as Hitler managed to bring Germany out of one of the worst economic disasters in history, I don't see where you're getting at
Entirely by building up the military. That was it. (of course he managed to bankrupt the country as well) Hitler also managed to form one of the most brutal and repressive police states ever, and he held the Germans as hostage for 12 years. And he topped it all off by mindlessly slaughtering as many people as he could once he realized that he couldn't rule the entire world. Learn your history, you fucking retard.
4643
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:15:51 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Strong leaders don't run their country into the ground. Putin is a pathetically weak leader, no amount of posturing will ever change that.
How is he running the country into the ground? It's the hypocritical West that's doing it; America can invade a country but not Russia?
The difference between America and Russia is that America never annexed Iraq/Afghanistan against their will and say that they were rightfully parts of "Greater America". There were a lot of opinion polls with Iraqi/Afghan civilians after their respective invasions and a majority of them supported the Americans coming in. And please don't cite that bullshit Crimean referendum. It is literally impossible for something as controversial as changing which country you're living in to get anywhere even close to 98% approval.
So you can cite an opinion poll, but I can't? Talk about moving the goal posts to suit your needs. Just like Kosovo, Crimea wanted to break away from it's host country and Russia provided them support
An opinion poll has nowhere near the same magnitude as a blatantly rigged referendum . And Putin used that same BS rhetoric of the "Kosovo precedent" to justify stealing Crimea. And Kosovo and Crimea are different stories. Kosovo wanted to be independent, and they were effectively independent for 9 years before actually declaring it. But with Crimea, they were Ukrainian one day, and Russian the next.
4644
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:11:54 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Strong leaders don't run their country into the ground. Putin is a pathetically weak leader, no amount of posturing will ever change that.
How is he running the country into the ground?
By fucking with Ukraine knowing damn well sanctions would be put into place. He doesn't care, because his personal wealth isn't really affected.
It's the hypocritical West that's doing it; Calm down there Babushka.
America can invade a country but not Russia? https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/loaded-question
Except Ukraine owed Russia a lot of money. Russia had all the rights to "fuck with" Ukraine One day China is going to coming knocking on America's door for it's money they have given us
Just pointing out how the West are masters at hypocrisy
Nice question dodging
I'm sure RT forgot to mention that the debt money was accumulated almost entirely by the Russian puppets who were ruling Ukraine at the time. Putin's tactics in the end of 2013 obviously showed this. The Russians were playing loan sharks so they Ukrainians had no chance of repaying as they were poor as shit.
4645
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:09:14 PM »
obama is le mastur trole >:v)
4646
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:08:15 PM »
HOLY SHIT UNITED STATES STOP INTERFERING IN OTHER NATIONS' AFFAIRS! YOUR SANCTIONS DESTROYED THE DEMOCRATIC PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF KOREA'S GREAT PROSPERITY!!! I KNOW THIS, I SAW THIS ON AN ARTICLE IN KCNA!!! Spoiler It'll be funny to see what Kim Thong Un says he'll "do" in retaliation.
4647
« on: December 22, 2014, 03:00:18 PM »
Too focused on classes right now to get a job....
4648
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:58:43 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Hitler and Mussolini were strong leaders as well, and look at where they got their countries to... And at least Hitler had the excuse of being a massive drug-addict and Mussolini was more motivated by a delusional ideology than personal wealth.
4649
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:55:16 PM »
It's a tie between Reagan and Bush.
You should consider adding Nixon into the list for deliberately sabotaging the Vietnam peace process. Nothing like Republicans....
4650
« on: December 22, 2014, 02:53:42 PM »
Russians continue to prove their lack of intelligence.
How so?
You can't deny him being a strong leader, something many people want
Strong leaders don't run their country into the ground. Putin is a pathetically weak leader, no amount of posturing will ever change that.
How is he running the country into the ground? It's the hypocritical West that's doing it; America can invade a country but not Russia?
The difference between America and Russia is that America never annexed Iraq/Afghanistan against their will and say that they were rightfully parts of "Greater America". There were a lot of opinion polls with Iraqi/Afghan civilians after their respective invasions and a majority of them supported the Americans coming in. And please don't cite that bullshit Crimean referendum. It is literally impossible for something as controversial as changing which country you're living in to get anywhere even close to 98% approval.
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