It's my advice.

Thank you for the input.

No, that's a fact. Sticking with the international crowd in a country like Germany will have you feel like an outsider the whole time.

We'll see once I get there.

But you think things you hate about "Americans" are things Germans or Europeans is general don't have.

No, not really. I'm expecting most Germans or Europeans I meet to be like the Americans I've met.

LOL It's ducking freezing in Germany compared to California.

Depends which part you're in.

I'd love to hear what else they have.

Lidl? LOL

......

I said name a country that has things better than America. Don't list countries, list what you perceive to actually be better.

Far less wealth inequality, higher GDP per capita, better education systems. You know. The same generic crap you keep on hearing about Scandinavia.

You don't seem to have a reason to do it.

Because I have the right to find a place I'm actually happy living in?


This debate is honestly starting to become more and more pointless. It's pretty clear that neither of us are going to convince each other of what we think.

Maybe we should continue it on PM?

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 09, 2015, 04:58:13 PM

Quote from: Mr Psychologist on April 09, 2015, 02:33:22 PM

I had this conversation with my japanese teacher 6-7 years ago, my friend brought it up with the question. She said that she thinks in English when talking to people in English but in her native tongue (Japanese) when thinking in general.

Which is something of the mirror for me, I always think in english except when I'm considering something in another language. So when I'm typing out moonrunes I'm thinking in runes. I'm not quite bilingual yet though, and only borderline fluent >_>

I expect there are a few people on here that are bilingual, mostly those from non anglophone countries >_>

^Bloody belgians putting the rest of us to shame <_<

Is your other language Weeabo language?

Yesu Desu

The languages I can speak go as follows
1. English
2. Japanese (But not at a very proficient level, kind of like middleschooler ability)
3. French (Been HonHonHoning since I was 5 but the last 4 years I haven't used it at all so atrophy)
4. Spanish (Did it for a few years at school, not much though)
5. German/Dutch Cognatefrenzy >.>

Cognatefrenzy?

wut

Lol prepare your anus for some freedom britbongs.

This Summer on Fox

The Colonies Strike Back

LOOOOOOL

OMG

You win the thread!

Quote from: Meta Cognition on April 09, 2015, 04:50:45 PM

Quote from: challengerX on April 09, 2015, 04:48:17 PM

Because you don't seem stupid enough to do that. Moving into the collapsing EU, in the capital of the EU empire is a bad move based just on economics. Factor in shitty weather, boring people, shitty food, and not much to do or see and I can't really fathom what attracts you.

I think you're selling Germany a bit short. Berlin is a lovely city.

Although I certainly couldn't live there, not even for a year. But I guess that's why I'm going to America for a year, instead of Germany.

Yeah, but moving to Berlin is retarded unless you're moving there because you already have a high paying job waiting for you there.

And I wouldn't say it's all that great. It's decent from what I've seen and heard.

I know people who have worked/will work in the universities there. And several other people who have high-paying jobs. I'm not going there with only the clothes on my back.

Because you don't seem stupid enough to do that. Moving into the collapsing EU, in the capital of the EU empire is a bad move based just on economics. Factor in shitty weather, boring people, shitty food, and not much to do or see and I can't really fathom what attracts you.

I've gotten along really well with Germans (and there's a big international community in Berlin). Probably better than other people I talk to in all honesty. I like cold weather a lot. I don't even have to like German food (which isn't a problem since I already like it) since there's a really diverse range in food. And if you think there's not much to do/see, you really aren't looking in the right areas.

I just said. America has it all. And it has the most opportunities.

I don't believe that it has it all. Though the opportunities part is arguably true.

I don't see how that matters.

Because how can you know what people want out of life if you don't even know them?

DESTROY IT!!!!

Quote from: Not Comms Officer on April 09, 2015, 04:27:10 PM

I'm not getting why you don't want me to leave the US so badly. Everyone else I know thinks that what I'm doing is a good idea except for you.

Maybe because I know better. Or maybe I'm wrong and you'll be happier in Europe. But I highly doubt it.

The only thing in Europe that's actually different is Spain. It's so fucking laidback you can't believe it. But while that's nice, at the same time that's what makes it a shithole.

America is the best country in the world. It has everything. Leaving just doesn't make any sense to me.

I can get what you're saying. Really.

But there's nothing here that makes me want to stay. And it's not like I'm the only one who has ever left the US. Close to 100,000 Americans are living in Germany right now as a matter of fact. So why shouldn't I be one of them? And literally all of the arguments I've seen from people against me leaving is about why I shouldn't go to Europe rather than why I should stay here.

I don't think we know each other well for what we're trying to convince each other of. Since we both come from very different backgrounds and we haven't exactly been open about them to each other.

True. But having lived in Europe, Africa, and now London, it's only reinforced me wanting to go back home.

Then that's your opinion. Not everyone is going to think the same way as you do.

And I'd rather be poor there than rich anywhere else.

Then that's your case.

The cost of living is really high, but if you're making over 200,000 and you're struggling to get by I don't know what to tell you. Maybe your family isn't handling the money as well as you think they are, or you live in a rich area and you have a lot of expenses.

You're living in London which has a reputation for being the most expensive cities in Europe to live in. And I've been looking for some of the cheapest areas in Europe to live in. I'm not gonna go straight into goddamn London or Paris. It's a both of those cases (parents not spending money well and living in an expensive area)

It's exactly the same here in Europe. That'll never change pretty much anywhere you go.

My relatives there do work extremely hard, but this is something I'll need to find out for myself.

I can't relate to anybody outside of America part from two people.

From the sounds of it, you never wanted to leave the US in the first place and you got along fine with Americans. It's obviously that we think differently and we have different priorities.

Ok. I'm telling you right now you're making a mistake but you'll have to go through this yourself to understand.

Yeah.

What is it you want?

It's not that Europe is bad, I just don't like it. Especially the way I've been forced to experience it.

I want to be happy. But given how I'm not happy in the area that I live, and that on the other hand, I'd be far happier here than in most other parts of the US, I can do better than where I'm at. It'd be extremely stupid for me not to find out what Europe is like to live in, especially since I have relatives there and I'm a European citizen.

But you don't. And you think universal things that you dislike will somehow change by moving to Europe. Doesn't make sense.

No, I don't. I'm expecting many of the same problems I am facing here. Hell, I'm not even expecting for my life to be easier there. If anything, it will be harder since I have to adapt to a new society and all of that fun stuff. But there is literally nothing keeping me here.

No, you're not. But I can tell about the way you talk that you think the grass is much greener on the other side. I'm just telling you it's pretty god damn brown.

I know it's brown. My family isn't having the time of their lives there themselves. They have to deal with all sorts of their own crazy shit. If I thought that Europe was oh so green, I'd just jump right into Greece like an idiot and get sucked into the unemployment clusterfuck.



I'm not getting why you don't want me to leave the US so badly. Everyone else I know thinks that what I'm doing is a good idea except for you.

Quote from: S\ash on April 09, 2015, 02:07:15 AM

cheat get off your alt

I'm not a mOD.

Ah, so you're Rocketman's alt.

Caliph of the Islamic State that is.

That story was fucking retarded.

Lol.

Yo, make me into a moderator. I'd do an awesome job. I have numerous credentials.

wut

Too bad they fucking fail at being forks, and they are like spoons with holes in them.

there were some islamic nationalist groups who used terrorist tactics against the ottomans in the late 1800s.  there's also the hashashins from the 11th century, who used "terrorist" tactics against persian provinces.other than that, there isnt much that i can find with cursory research. the geopolitical shakeup caused by western intervention in the middle east is the primary catalyst for all the strife right now, and the advent of the information age has allowed fundamentalist ideology to spread around the world, so thats why the islamic coalition groups that we know are a modern phenomena. they really started sprouting after the iranian revolution in 1979. lots of disillusioned muslims empathized with the ayatollah khomeini's anti-western philosophy, emphasis on the virtues of the jihad, and perhaps these groups feel that they must mirror the ayatollah's revolution in other parts of the world.

my understanding of middle eastern history is EXTREMELY rudimentary, so you'll have to forgive errors. there have most certainly been islamic fringe groups which threaten central authority in the middle east as far back as the beginning of the islamic empire, but the nature of our industrialized and ever-advancing global society is what allowed groups like ISIL and al Qaeda to exist in this capacity.

So what I'm saying is pretty much confirmed..

Which is that Islamic terrorism wasn't really a major problem until the 80's. Lots of what you were mentioning sounded like political terrorism with a bit of religion, while today's Islamic terrorism is largely religion-motivated.