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8881
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:54:22 PM »
The topic was if there's an ethical difference between hunting for sport and hunting for food. And to answer the question, hunting for sport is less ethical regardless of "how much" that is. Of course, sport hunters also use their meat -- as you pointed out -- but I'd think it'd be more understood in an argument on ethics that killing for a trophy is less ethical than killing to eat. Okay, but that doesn't really answer my question. Merely saying that one is less ethical than the other, or that it would generally be seen as such in most arguments, isn't enough; the claim needs to be logically defended.
I'm not fond of the tone you used in the second portion of your post; not hounding you, just pointing out that I'm going to be less likely to continue this discussion if I feel you're looking down on me the entire time.
I re-read my post and couldn't find anything condescending, but I apologize if you interpreted it that way.
I'll have to apologize then, I have a bad habit of not wording things clearly. I'll simplify my logic: A) Animals grown commercially live under worse living conditions than those that live their lives naturally. [Reasons provided previously] B) To purchase the meat of commercially grown animals is tantamount to supporting commercially growing animals. C) Provided Points A and B, to consume wild game is more ethical than to consume commercially grown animals. C2) Simply the point to "eating natural game is more ethical than the equivalent alternative". D) Define "useful" as "able to be used for a practical purpose or in several ways". E) The option which is more useful ("honoring" the death) is more ethical. F) The most ethical way to use meat is for consumption. G) Decoration is less practical than an object that maintains a purpose of semi-frequent use. (e.g. a knife is more practical than a photograph.) H) A mounted head has fewer possible uses than raw material. I) Given Points D, E, F, G, and H, a mountain head (or trophy) is less a less ethical use of resources than converting them to food and raw material. I) Given Points C2 and H, it is more ethical to eat for food than for sport. There you go, now instead of paragraphs that can easily be miscommunicated, you can reply to me and question whatever individual point we aren't seeing eye-to-eye on.
8882
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:18:01 PM »
Lord, I'm somewhere in the great void between Meta and Das.
Farthest away from would probably be Chally. Nothing against him, there's just very few things I seem to agree with him on politically.
8883
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:10:27 PM »
No, the only high I'm feeling is sleep deprivation.
8884
« on: May 31, 2015, 11:05:26 PM »
Without getting roped into 9+ pages of argument, regardless of how you feel on eating meat, hunting for food is more ethical by whatever degree than hunting for sport. Just by making use of the remains to the fullest extent you're doing more to "honor" (parenthesized because I realize that this can easily be contorted, it's just a turn-of-phrase) the animal than killing it to mount a head on your wall.
Also mounting heads is gross and tacky, so there's that.
I'm asking about hunting for food in developed society, where there is easy access to supermarkets.
Whether you eat the animal or mount it on your wall, you are still "making use" of its body. So I don't see any valuable difference between them on this basis -- and merely finding one "gross and tacky" isn't really good enough.
Well, when we get into the ethics of the subject things can get tricky. For one, it's healthier -- in comparison to store-bought meat (because again, I'm not discussing veganism here, just whether it's worse to hunt for sport or not) -- to eat from nature. I'm not going to be that idiot that claims "muh hormones", because the truth is that most hormonal changes people think the animals undergo are extremely inefficient. I'm talking about how preservatives are used on the meat, and here in the US more artificial ingredients are added to make it "look" fresher. Free-range is also deceptive, considering the rules classifying it are extremely lax; traditionally, this means that a means to be outside is provided to the animals, but -- due to the sheer amount of animals confined to the factory [generally 20,000 per warehouse when dealing with poultry] -- it is nigh likely that the animal never sees the light of day. My point here is that living conditions for animals grown commercially are arguably worse than those living in the wild; to support this is, therefore, more unethical than to consume game that lives naturally. But we're not justifying how eating naturally is more ethical than eating store-bought, unless that's what you want to discuss. The topic was if there's an ethical difference between hunting for sport and hunting for food. And to answer the question, hunting for sport is less ethical regardless of "how much" that is. Of course, sport hunters also use their meat -- as you pointed out -- but I'd think it'd be more understood in an argument on ethics that killing for a trophy is less ethical than killing to eat. The gross and tacky bit was an addendum by the way, not a point. I thought that was obvious due the separation from my main line of thought, but I guess not; regardless (I'm using this word too much) of that, I'm not fond of the tone you used in the second portion of your post; not hounding you, just pointing out that I'm going to be less likely to continue this discussion if I feel you're looking down on me the entire time.
8885
« on: May 31, 2015, 10:39:50 PM »
I gotta say Megami Tensei, even though I just sort of got into it. Very intriguing franchise. Very unwelcoming, too.
Was about to pop in and mention this. Out of them, the P2 duology is the most stacked with observation and themes. Even if the dialogue is awkward at times, but then again it was localized in a time where they had to "Americanize" all the names and make a character black just because, so I give it some slack.
8886
« on: May 31, 2015, 10:35:22 PM »
Without getting roped into 9+ pages of argument, regardless of how you feel on eating meat, hunting for food is more ethical by whatever degree than hunting for sport. Just by making use of the remains to the fullest extent you're doing more to "honor" (parenthesized because I realize that this can easily be contorted, it's just a turn-of-phrase) the animal than killing it to mount a head on your wall.
Also mounting heads is gross and tacky, so there's that.
8887
« on: May 30, 2015, 11:19:37 PM »
I'm in the wrong career field...
It comes with a lot of debt, but think of the perks such as getting vomited on by screaming children.
8888
« on: May 30, 2015, 11:18:32 PM »
Considering that I'm going to sleep right now (an hour after I got off work) so that I can work for eleven hours tomorrow, I have no social life.
8889
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:44:39 PM »
author=Prime Servitor link=topic=38224.msg735906#msg735906 date=1433042946]
This is an uncommon pepe, but not rare enough to add to my collection.
GOOD JOB BUDDY, YOU'RE KILLING THE VALUE OF MY SEMI-RARE PEPE
8890
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:32:31 PM »
They touch cheat's peenus weenus, or let cheat touch their peenus weenus
8891
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:31:12 PM »
This is an uncommon pepe, but not rare enough to add to my collection.
if it was rare i wouldn't have posted it, silly goose
Good thinking, you'd lower the market value.
8892
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:29:06 PM »
This is an uncommon pepe, but not rare enough to add to my collection.
8893
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:28:32 PM »
No, I dont want to
Wait
8894
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:26:21 PM »
I agree, but I'm not sure if there's a market for it. Let me call my friend Das, he's an expert on boy bootie.
8895
« on: May 30, 2015, 03:28:13 PM »
Is this a joke
No, Chally's dong is like a hammer.
8896
« on: May 30, 2015, 03:24:46 PM »
If you want to.
8897
« on: May 30, 2015, 03:22:43 PM »
Between 11pm and 1am, usually.
8898
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:36:21 AM »
Known trolls:
Me
Tru
Cheat
LC
Verb
Meta
Flee
Both Turkeys
8899
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:31:23 AM »
no, tru needs a hummer
Pretty sure bongistan outlawed those for emissions and millage.
This changes nothing
8900
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:19:51 AM »
I mean, for once this could be a good thing, right?
Better than Konami taking it to mobile I suppose.
Haven't really been a fan of MS's direction with exclusives, but I guess Spencer hasn't really had enough time to turn the ship yet. Hard to say how the game itself would end up. Supposedly its mostly finished.
One less scary game to worry about accidentally seeing in the ps store I guess 
I'll make you play it, boy. Tape your eyes and tie you to a chair.
Hey, that's my schtick!
8901
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:14:21 AM »
no, tru needs a hummer
8902
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:08:55 AM »
Being short has its perks
I can hide in laundry baskets still if I want to
8903
« on: May 30, 2015, 10:04:33 AM »
Wait you're THAT small too?
pfffft
But I'm still taller than you 
8904
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:57:58 AM »
How short is Tru anyway
5'4"
>I'm only an inch taller than Tru It's all good, I get infinite piggy-back rides and get to play rocket-ship all the time.
8905
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:56:21 AM »
Sickly. I always had something when I was little.
8906
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:55:23 AM »
How short is Tru anyway
8907
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:48:46 AM »
>Out Nipponed by Verb
B T F O
T
F
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8908
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:42:37 AM »
I don't even have any anime merchandise, I need to step up my weeb game
Yeah, where's your Maki shrine?
8909
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:41:44 AM »
A day or two.
Spiritual transcendence
Through meditation and positive thought, brother.
8910
« on: May 30, 2015, 09:34:55 AM »
i too keep all my anime merchandise in my car
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