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8791
« on: June 07, 2015, 12:01:40 AM »
>Steam pre-loading
8792
« on: June 06, 2015, 09:51:54 PM »
I mean, like Verb said, Wolfenstein 3D came before DOOM. But DOOM is monumental for popularizing FPS, and it's widely recognized. That's why it's on the list and not W3D.
8793
« on: June 06, 2015, 09:50:09 PM »
And yet they don't have lasting recognition. That's the point.
>ultima
>Everquest
>no lasting recognition
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Sure they might not be as popular as they once were, but both are still going strong with a stable player base. The latter of which is actually getting a sequel here.
If you've been around the MMO black chances are you've either heard of them of played them at some point. He'll if you were old enough to play video games before 1997 you probably heard about them at some point too.
This is like comparing doom to cod and saying cod deserves to be on the list over doom because it's newer and more popular. Not because it was a major player in laying the foundation of the fps genre and considering everything on that list is significant for helping to lay the foundations of gaming and various genres WoW is horribly out of place.
I don't oppose WoW being in this hall of fame, I oppose it being listed with a bunch of instrumental titles help to lay the foundations for the medium.
Define "stable". They're alive yes, but that doesn't mean they have global recognition. I know what Ultima and EQ are, but I'm unfortunately a nerd who spends too much time playing and buying games. That doesn't mean that the average person today will know what it is, even if they heard the name somewhere.
8794
« on: June 06, 2015, 08:44:28 PM »
Nothing really, I'm not that special.
you don't yell enough
or swear enough
and you've made maybe one thread lol
Hey. Hey. Two threads.
8795
« on: June 06, 2015, 08:39:34 PM »
I don't even have to do anything and I get second best.
Fuckin' lol.
I take it Rocketman was the best mod then?
CALL AN AMBULANCE I NEED AN ICE PACK
Sounds like a waste of emergency services. Can't you just walk down to a convenience store and buy a pound of it?
8796
« on: June 06, 2015, 08:36:13 PM »
Nothing really, I'm not that special.
8797
« on: June 06, 2015, 07:15:38 PM »
But at least for the first wave, the games that set the industry?
Seeing as how WoW was chosen over Ultima and Everquest there's nothing in here that says quake can't be chosen over Doom.
WoW is basically the COD of the MMO genre. The only thing it did was dumb it down to appeal to the lowest common denominator.
And yet they don't have lasting recognition. That's the point. I didn't say that it can't, it didn't. DOOM is already on the list while Quake isn't. I'm just trying to give a possible explanation for why it didn't. And despite how WoW led to the casualization of the genre, it is still considered the MMO even if people incorrectly believe it to be the first.
8798
« on: June 06, 2015, 03:09:38 PM »
>playing games on keyboards
>EVER
>Typing of the Dead R E K T E K T
8799
« on: June 06, 2015, 02:58:29 PM »
I've played it on both. Some of the puzzles toward the end of the game are a bit harder on keyboard because of toggle run/walk instead of just using a joystick to alternate.
8800
« on: June 06, 2015, 02:52:50 PM »
Seems like a good list so far. Would've also expected Quake I to make an appearance.
A great game, but it didn't leave quite enough of a lasting impact to make the list.
I gotta disagree. Quake took the basics of Doom, added a console and shaped pretty much every FPS game that currently exists.
The Quake engine served as the basis for the entirety of Valve's Source engine, some 007 games, Medal of Honor, the later Wolfenstein games, Quake Wars, Rage, Doom 3, Prey, and pretty much all of the COD games.
Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are the godfathers of the FPS genre, but it's Quake that made it significantly faster, better, competitive and laid the foundations for pretty much all FPS games to come after. I personally don't think either of the three original games (Wolfenstein 3D, Doom and Quake) deserves to be the one landmark game for the FPS genre by itself. But if I had to pick the one that made the basic concept into what we have today, I'd go with Quake.
It built upon what Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM already did. It in itself wasn't revolutionary, and despite the fact that it did indeed bring FPS closer to the current day, it hasn't had the lasting recognition of Wolfenstein or DOOM. If you ask anybody, DOOM or Wolfenstein is that really old shooter. They are recognized and, unfortunately, Quake isn't.
Not to say that I wouldn't agree if Quake made the list, because you're right, it's a fantastic game. But at least for the first wave, the games that set the industry? I can see why it didn't make the list. At least yet.
It comes down to what the point of this list is, really. The games that most people recognize, or the ones that were actually the most influential to our current standard of games? Probably the first, unfortunately. Would be cool to see the opposite though. This is probably just going to turn into a handful of games that most people know in combination with those that sold the most copies.
Well, according to the criteria in the OP, it would be both. It has to be recognizable and influential. DOOM did both, but Quake is only strenuously recognized.
8801
« on: June 06, 2015, 12:50:01 PM »
Seems like a good list so far. Would've also expected Quake I to make an appearance.
A great game, but it didn't leave quite enough of a lasting impact to make the list.
I gotta disagree. Quake took the basics of Doom, added a console and shaped pretty much every FPS game that currently exists.
The Quake engine served as the basis for the entirety of Valve's Source engine, some 007 games, Medal of Honor, the later Wolfenstein games, Quake Wars, Rage, Doom 3, Prey, and pretty much all of the COD games.
Doom and Wolfenstein 3D are the godfathers of the FPS genre, but it's Quake that made it significantly faster, better, competitive and laid the foundations for pretty much all FPS games to come after. I personally don't think either of the three original games (Wolfenstein 3D, Doom and Quake) deserves to be the one landmark game for the FPS genre by itself. But if I had to pick the one that made the basic concept into what we have today, I'd go with Quake.
It built upon what Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM already did. It in itself wasn't revolutionary, and despite the fact that it did indeed bring FPS closer to the current day, it hasn't had the lasting recognition of Wolfenstein or DOOM. If you ask anybody, DOOM or Wolfenstein is that really old shooter. They are recognized and, unfortunately, Quake isn't. Not to say that I wouldn't agree if Quake made the list, because you're right, it's a fantastic game. But at least for the first wave, the games that set the industry? I can see why it didn't make the list. At least yet.
8802
« on: June 06, 2015, 01:27:11 AM »
Do what you think you need to do. If that's taking a break, go ahead. There are some real shit heads here, I know, and there really is only one way to go about it
Do not take them seriously.
You aren't the only one that gets lmao'd a lot here. Does that make it automatically okay? Of course not, but you can look at the other people who get a lot of unwanted attention and see how they handle it.
Just take a deep breath, and fuck those guys. (not literally.) Do what you need to stay calm.
/sandtrap post
8803
« on: June 06, 2015, 01:17:41 AM »
Persona 5
Fallout 4
Cyberpunk 2077
MGS V
8804
« on: June 05, 2015, 04:23:03 PM »
I wouldn't say that it's institutional racism, but I'm having a hard time finding a good reason for the contents of the poster. It's talking about repayment to former colonies, what do black people in chains have to do with it?
8805
« on: June 05, 2015, 04:16:56 PM »
would i need to play the first two to enjoy the third
i don't plan on ever getting this game, but, i don't know
shit's good to know
They do a few recaps throughout the game, but I've heard that playing the second game makes it a bit easier to understand. I've also heard that the books are pretty good, and they play into the games a lot (since the games are based on them). Fortunately, the games take place after the books as a continuation, so nothing is spoiled if you read them.
8806
« on: June 05, 2015, 04:07:03 PM »
Idk, I just get a bad taste in my mouth when people call this a "mental illness."
That's because there's a lot of discrimination against people with mental illness, and there really shouldn't be. People get ignored and ridiculed just because they're sick. And that's a problem: they're sick, and they need a doctor. People don't need to make it even harder for them. We really need to step up on our mental healthcare and awareness in general.
8807
« on: June 05, 2015, 03:54:59 PM »
Does it list the reason why LoZ didn't make the list? I'm curious of why not.
The fact that they were going to possibly add FIFA and Angry Birds over Zelda is just insulting
I don't understand what FIFA did differently from NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. It's just another sports game. Angry Birds was a rip-off of an older Newgrounds game that got lucky.
Zelda is THE original adventure game, like Wolfenstein 3D is the original FPS.
look at the sales numbers of Fifa and then look at the sales numbers of madden and nhl
Oh, so you're saying Call of Duty should be in the hall of fame. Or Candy Crush. Or Angry Birds.
8808
« on: June 05, 2015, 03:54:19 PM »
I don't understand what FIFA did differently from NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. It's just another sports game. Angry Birds was a rip-off of an older Newgrounds game that got lucky.
Zelda is THE original adventure game, like Wolfenstein 3D is the original FPS.
Perhaps they didn't want to give Nintendo double representation (even though they probably deserve it).
I mean, if you originated the fire and the wheel...
8809
« on: June 05, 2015, 03:48:06 PM »
Does it list the reason why LoZ didn't make the list? I'm curious of why not.
The fact that they were going to possibly add FIFA and Angry Birds over Zelda is just insulting
I don't understand what FIFA did differently from NFL, NHL, NBA, etc. It's just another sports game. Angry Birds was a rip-off of an older Newgrounds game that got lucky. Zelda is THE original adventure game, like Wolfenstein 3D is the original FPS.
8810
« on: June 05, 2015, 03:38:10 PM »
Does it list the reason why LoZ didn't make the list? I'm curious of why not.
8811
« on: June 05, 2015, 03:36:19 PM »
Seems like a good list so far. Would've also expected Quake I to make an appearance.
A great game, but it didn't leave quite enough of a lasting impact to make the list.
8812
« on: June 05, 2015, 01:36:16 PM »
Jon's fate in the books is already unknown (if you take it at face value), but I wouldn't be surprised if they just loosely follow what happened.
Besides, Martin told the producers how it ends a while back (just in case he dies before the books are finished), so I suppose that it'll all end the same regardless of events between now and then.
8813
« on: June 05, 2015, 01:29:13 PM »
You broke the rules, man
Rules were made to be broken.
8814
« on: June 04, 2015, 05:32:10 PM »
Isn't this just an inverse of a thread you made the other day?
8815
« on: June 04, 2015, 05:29:07 PM »
No, where would people run when the draft returned? To the third-world country known as Mexico?
8816
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:51:35 PM »
i don't know who really denies that it's a disease
however, it isn't, in itself, harmful
Unless it leads to self harm, as body dysmorphic disorders often do.
8817
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:46:02 PM »
It's classified as a somatic symptom disorder, so yes. Doesn't mean we don't need to be more accepting of transgenderism, or mental illness in general. When people are sick, you help them. End of story.
You don't play along with them though.
You treat them.
Cognitive therapy will always be the best treatment, and if the psychologist passes the person through for surgery, than so be it. Not every problem can be treated through anti-psychotics or talking through them.
Which is why we need to find a real solution.
Of course. But you wouldn't shun someone for being anorexic, and you shouldn't shun someone for being trans either. Treat the illness and don't be a dick, basically.
I don't shun anybody.
I was speaking of a general "you", not you specifically.
8818
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:44:25 PM »
It's classified as a somatic symptom disorder, so yes. Doesn't mean we don't need to be more accepting of transgenderism, or mental illness in general. When people are sick, you help them. End of story.
You don't play along with them though.
You treat them.
Cognitive therapy will always be the best treatment, and if the psychologist passes the person through for surgery, than so be it. Not every problem can be treated through anti-psychotics or talking through them.
Which is why we need to find a real solution.
Of course. But you wouldn't shun someone for being anorexic, and you shouldn't shun someone for being trans either. Treat the illness and don't be a dick, basically.
8819
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:15:01 PM »
It's classified as a somatic symptom disorder, so yes. Doesn't mean we don't need to be more accepting of transgenderism, or mental illness in general. When people are sick, you help them. End of story.
You don't play along with them though.
You treat them.
Cognitive therapy will always be the best treatment, and if the psychologist passes the person through for surgery, than so be it. Not every problem can be treated through anti-psychotics or talking through them.
8820
« on: June 04, 2015, 04:09:29 PM »
It's classified as a somatic symptom disorder, so yes. Doesn't mean we don't need to be more accepting of transgenderism, or mental illness in general. When people are sick, you help them. End of story.
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