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Gaming / Re: Nintendo NX -- Digital only console?
« on: August 21, 2015, 11:59:50 PM »
Fuck that. It's one of the reasons that held me back from getting a PS TV.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 01:45:57 PM »
And until they are all eradicated, I'll never be happy.
Then prepare for an unhappy existence. All things have unintended consequences.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 01:39:04 PM »
If you want a good example in-theory, take pharmacy companies. Let's say they really get their act together and remove such minor side effects in their products like the bothersome and inconvenient death, and make medication that completely fixes up their clients into top shape again.
Dying isn't a side-effect of the drug; dying is the side-effect of the drug being used in combination of different dispositions and/or combination with other drugs. Every side-effect listed on a product is the result of dozens of clinical trials involving hundreds upon hundreds of subjects. If three out of every hundred persons say they get a headache after taking Zyprexa, "headache" is listed as a potential side-effect.

If you stay awake for forty hours and then fall asleep after reading a book, you didn't fall asleep because you read a book. Reading a book put you in a relaxed state that, combined with pre-existing sleep deprivation, made you fall asleep.

I'm aware of the work that goes into making prescriptions. Of course messing around with chemical compounds and shooting them out among a general population that fluctuates in terms of genetic diversity and reactivity is going to have side effects.

But, what I'm stating is, if somebody where to make something that was truly beneficial with almost no downsides? It'd be shut down, totally. For example.

Nanomachines seem to have everybody's undies in a bundle because of thier possibilities. Let's say for a moment, that somebody or a team of scientists creates long-term, efficient machines that are capable of maintaining themselves indefinitely, and actively act as augments to our own anti-bodies, keeping a data-base of diseseas they encounter, making them incredibly efficient.

It'd never sell on an open market. That, or it would sell for immensly high prices. I mean, naturally, something like that would sell like hotcakes.

But if you're a business, you don't sell shit that sells like hotcakes mainly because it's good. You sell shit like hotcakes because it breaks. Or a better version comes out the following year, and so on and so forth. Maximum profit for minimal cost.

Right now, scientific advancements aren't moving at the top of their game, unhindered. They're moving based on paychecks. And they're regulated by markets.
Nah, businesses would love nanomachines. Due to the information they would receive from them (average weight, height, pulse, sodium/sugar intake, heart rate in response to stimuli, etc) it'd be the most accurate way imaginable of knowing what the average person wants. The medical industry would shift away from vaccines and medications to other (at that point) profitable sectors, like genetic testing.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 01:29:42 PM »
"Three out of every hundred" is still too many, in my book. It's like saying "one out of thirty-three."

Hell--one in a thousand is still too frequent to be acceptable. For any side-effect.
What I'm saying is that the side-effect could either be imaginary (for some; obviously, death isn't imaginary), misattributed, or caused by the drug in combination with something else, not necessarily the fault of the drug. Another problem is taking too high or too small of a dose; both can lead to unintended side-effects that occur in no fault to the prescription.

One in a thousand might even be an overstatement. Like I said, hundreds upon hundreds of subjects over the course of many, many years. The pharmaceutical company is required by law to list any and every side effect given during the course of the trials. That number might not even be as large as three in a thousand (which, like you said, is in itself a large number), it could be as low as a fraction of a fraction of a fraction of a decimal. It doesn't matter; if it happened, it's listed. That's why the list is so long, and also why they proceed certain items with "serious risk". Serious risk means that there is a greater likeliness that you may have the side-effect than being struck by lightning.

Even despite all this, that doesn't mean drugs these drugs are maleficial. Vaccines, for example, prevent an enumerable amount of illnesses every year. Say the McCarthy camp is right, and there is the potential that vaccines cause autism. So fucking what? It'd be a very small chance of it happening, and it'd be better to have autism than polio. The benefit outweighs the negative aspects.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 12:56:55 PM »
If you want a good example in-theory, take pharmacy companies. Let's say they really get their act together and remove such minor side effects in their products like the bothersome and inconvenient death, and make medication that completely fixes up their clients into top shape again.
Dying isn't a side-effect of the drug; dying is the side-effect of the drug being used in combination of different dispositions and/or combination with other drugs. Every side-effect listed on a product is the result of dozens of clinical trials involving hundreds upon hundreds of subjects. If three out of every hundred persons say they get a headache after taking Zyprexa, "headache" is listed as a potential side-effect.

If you stay awake for forty hours and then fall asleep after reading a book, you didn't fall asleep because you read a book. Reading a book put you in a relaxed state that, combined with pre-existing sleep deprivation, made you fall asleep.

That's not to say there aren't drugs with overwhelmingly negative side-effects that occur in large populations, like that one drug that made boys grow breasts. But that's why you don't just take a pill just because your doctor said so, because he has a quota to fill. Learn for yourself on important issues.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 12:41:58 PM »
I actually don't think "artificial" evolution is as phony as some nay sayers think it is. Look at the logic behind it.

Take a supposedly "intelligent" species, and shoot them up to the point where we are now. No doubt, don't you think said intelligent species would develop technology as well? What I'm basically saying here is what if "artificial evolution" is actually just the natural step as a species grows and reaches certain points?
That's why I proposed that the term has been radicalized by interest groups.

Which is why I may have hinted that such interest groups are being silly by radicalizing the term. I guess we went in a circle on that one.
I guess so. There's no sense in denying that the next step in human evolution will be man-made. But just like other things that have even the potential to improve our daily lives, minority interest groups continue to stand in the way.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 21, 2015, 12:37:08 PM »
I actually don't think "artificial" evolution is as phony as some nay sayers think it is. Look at the logic behind it.

Take a supposedly "intelligent" species, and shoot them up to the point where we are now. No doubt, don't you think said intelligent species would develop technology as well? What I'm basically saying here is what if "artificial evolution" is actually just the natural step as a species grows and reaches certain points?
That's why I proposed that the term has been radicalized by interest groups.

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Gaming / Re: Do You Give A Shit About Battlefront 3
« on: August 21, 2015, 12:01:56 PM »
That actually looks incredibly fun. I've slowly warmed up to the idea of the game, and while I still hate that it's missing half the cinematic universe, at least it looks like were trying when they were making this. Definitely not going to get this game at launch, but I'll probably nab it faster than I did Advanced Warfare or BF4.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 20, 2015, 09:02:34 PM »
Like, what are some ideas that you might have, or have heard of before, that are worth looking into? In your opinion.
I've already discussed one with you. Sapor alteration. Strength, metabolic alteration, perfecting vision/hearing, etc.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 20, 2015, 08:41:24 PM »
Transhumanism isn't necessarily "let's be cyborgs and robots", it could also be something along the lines of GATTACA, or chemical augmentation/surgeries.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 20, 2015, 08:36:50 PM »
why would I be against that?
To play devil's advocate, we haven't had a great track record with self-development through life extension/drug augmentation. For example, overuse of penicillin destroyed the public at large's immunity to bacterial infection. If such an event occurred again as a result of genetic or physical meddling, we could potentially cause greater harm to humanity.

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Serious / Re: Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 20, 2015, 08:31:57 PM »
Okay, it's on the right board now. So basically, the debate is for-against human self-evolution.

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Serious / Artificial Evolution: A Dissenting Term?
« on: August 20, 2015, 08:17:35 PM »
Evolution - the process by which different kinds of living organisms are thought to have developed and diversified from earlier forms during the history of the earth.
Artificial - made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturally, typically as a copy of something natural.

Adding these two definitions together, it follows that "artificial evolution" should be the development of humans by a "recursive self-improvement" of sorts; however, it is generally used to downplay the benefits of augmenting the human abilities or perceptions by certain ideological groups. These groups hold firm in the belief that changing ourselves in these ways are straying from "nature's path" (or some variation) and that it is immoral.

For the purpose of simplified discussion, I intend to exclude religious rhetoric; those reasons are based under the assumption of something in itself (an omnipotent being) being true and that is an irrelevant topic.

Artificial evolution is a nature-sympathetic term that implies nature cares, or is even capable of conscious objection, to augmentation. To imply that nature (to put bluntly) gives a damn is obsurd. Evolution is the path through which a species develops; it makes sense that, once a species reaches a certain developmental point, it would comprehend its past, and possibly future, evolutionary growth spurs and attempt to influence them.

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That's why the books released during their time with Halo were good.
Nylund is a pretty great author. I wish he would have been involved in the story creation of the games.

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Are there many for the PS2? I still have one of those and PS2 games are dirt cheap now.
RPGs or Metal Gear?

metal gear
Ah. Well, then as BB already said, you can play MG through MGS3 on PS2. There's actually an Essential Collection bundle that comes with MGS, Substance, and Subsistence.

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Are there many for the PS2? I still have one of those and PS2 games are dirt cheap now.
RPGs or Metal Gear?

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Gaming / Re: KONAMI Survey - Let them know what we think!
« on: August 20, 2015, 01:08:04 PM »
No point in being all buttblasted about Konami. If they want to self-destruct their video game division, that's their prerogative. However, I told them that I like the care and attention that MGS5 appears to have been handled with and that I'd like to see more of that.

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Gaming / Re: Verb's going to have a stroke.
« on: August 20, 2015, 12:56:39 PM »
That's just retarded.

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Gaming / Re: EA defending day one DLC and no single-player in SWBF
« on: August 20, 2015, 12:14:38 AM »
Hardline has Death Grips in its soundtrack. It is exempt from being shitty.
It's beyond bland and forgettable?

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Gaming / Re: "I'm already a demon." | 13 Days | A Hideo Kojima Thread
« on: August 20, 2015, 12:12:51 AM »
>base building/defense

Preordered three copies of the game, changed my name to Strangelove, found out what I will fight for, and sold my soul to Venom "Big 'Demon' Boss" Snake. Once your life reaches zero, the game is over. There are no continues, my friend.
Wanna... give me a preorder as a gift? :)?

I'm too poor for stuff right now...
It was all an elaborate ruse to distract the Patriots. I'm living on tap water and leftover food from work at the moment, can't afford to spend money.

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Gaming / Re: EA defending day one DLC and no single-player in SWBF
« on: August 19, 2015, 11:37:08 PM »
Dice has literally never released a bad game minus BF 4 for being unfinished, but you can blame EA for that.

That's a pretty good track record.

BF: Hardline is shitty
Visceral made Hardline.

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Gaming / Re: "I'm already a demon." | 13 Days | A Hideo Kojima Thread
« on: August 19, 2015, 11:04:34 PM »
>base building/defense

Preordered three copies of the game, changed my name to Strangelove, found out what I will fight for, and sold my soul to Venom "Big 'Demon' Boss" Snake. Once your life reaches zero, the game is over. There are no continues, my friend.

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Serious / Re: How Do You All Feel Towards This?
« on: August 19, 2015, 10:38:30 PM »
red, which is associated with "bad"
Nuh uh, yellow is.
i've never known yellow to mean "bad"...

except for it being a bad color
Red is associated with passion, anger, and hunger.

Yellow is associated with spring, caution and illness. It's the most luminous color of the spectrum. It's why McDonalds were red and yellow: red makes you hungry, and yellow keeps you from staying too long.

The big yellow M is also playing on a built in male psychology in the sub-conscious.

It's based off tits.

As I'm sure you know, tits make an effective lure as well.
Not based off of. They kept it because it reminded someone important to the company of breasts.

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Gaming / Re: EA defending day one DLC and no single-player in SWBF
« on: August 19, 2015, 10:30:50 PM »
I honestly like GTA V's DLC situation. Yeah, stupid micro transactions to buy money, but those micro transactions made all other DLC being released free possible.

I hate season passes, though.

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Serious / Re: How Do You All Feel Towards This?
« on: August 19, 2015, 10:22:37 PM »
red, which is associated with "bad"
Nuh uh, yellow is.
i've never known yellow to mean "bad"...

except for it being a bad color
Red is associated with passion, anger, and hunger.

Yellow is associated with spring, caution and illness. It's the most luminous color of the spectrum. It's why McDonalds were red and yellow: red makes you hungry, and yellow keeps you from staying too long.

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Serious / Re: How Do You All Feel Towards This?
« on: August 19, 2015, 01:34:29 AM »
red, which is associated with "bad"
Nuh uh, yellow is.

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The Flood / Re: Post your homescreen/wallpapers
« on: August 18, 2015, 03:11:34 PM »

That hurts my eyes e.e
It's because I'm too lazy to walk across the room and turn on a light, so this way my monitor can keep the room lit

Laziness = efficiency

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The Flood / Re: Post your homescreen/wallpapers
« on: August 18, 2015, 02:59:35 PM »

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Gaming / Re: Your current go to games?
« on: August 18, 2015, 02:34:07 PM »
SMT because I've been putting off finishing it for quite a while
is that the one you were talking about yesterday

because i can think of another one you've been putting off, too <_<
I think I might pull a Lemon and just go back through them all in release order

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Gaming / Re: Your current go to games?
« on: August 18, 2015, 01:14:59 PM »
Civilization Revolution because I'm one trophy from platinum
New Vegas because Mad Max: Cowboys and Indians Edition
MGS3 because yeah
SMT because I've been putting off finishing it for quite a while

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