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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:30:29 PM »
It's been said a lot in this thread, but Cooper is so bae

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:26:39 PM »
"Let me finish my question"

Yeah, he's done for the night. Any chances of him answering a question without drowning in sweat and biting his tongue are slim to none.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:23:33 PM »
Keebler's passed out, gg

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:20:43 PM »
Chafee looking nervous.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:07:03 PM »
Webb going nuclear

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 09:01:42 PM »
Whether you agree or disagree with her stances or her as a person, she is easily the most charismatic speaker on the stage right now, or arguably out of either nomination pool.
nah

bernie
His skills in oration are miles behind Hillary. But that's why I'm not talking about stances, just delivery.

This isn't a problem for Bernie, I'm just saying that Hillary has way more experience doing this than him.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:59:18 PM »
Whether you agree or disagree with her stances or her as a person, she is easily the most charismatic speaker on the stage right now, or arguably out of either nomination pool.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:56:05 PM »
And Hillary gives what I was looking for.

Early education?
Early education, how education should work, just education policy in general.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:55:09 PM »
And Hillary gives what I was looking for.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:53:16 PM »
Clinton ramrods Benghazi committee.
yet still pushing the same email server truthinesss

As Bernie said, and the audience agrees, nobody gives a damn anymore.

"Do black lives matter?" question

GTFO
all lives matter though

Not gays
oh

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:49:43 PM »
God damn that applause

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:49:02 PM »
Hillary has the laugh of a super villain

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:47:59 PM »
tfw nobody mentions education
As a security threat?...
Not to the question silly, at all

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:42:29 PM »
tfw nobody mentions education

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:40:40 PM »
did sanders just imply that he would kick start a Russian revolution?
His cousin, Kernel Sanders, will lead the socialist revolution.
>kernal
No, Kernel. Are you making fun of his name, bourgeoisie scum?

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:36:10 PM »
did sanders just imply that he would kick start a Russian revolution?
His cousin, Kernel Sanders, will lead the socialist revolution.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:34:56 PM »
Webb and Cooper are gonna have a fist fight after this debate.
That's what he gets for breaking the rules of the debate tbh

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:33:58 PM »
Where the fuck did China come into this?
When he thought it would get applause.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:32:52 PM »
You can really see Hillary's experience pulling her through; she rambles a good bit, but she isn't stuttering nearly as much as everyone else.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 08:30:42 PM »
I find it hard to focus on the nominees over the silver haired fox

God dammit Cooper stop stealing the show

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 02:07:28 PM »
so I'm the only one that actually wants to see a civil debate instead of a pseudo WWE Sunday night smackdown?
No, you're not. All the shouting and screaming over each other pisses me off.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:19:18 PM »
I expect a rebound for Clinton if she can manage herself well - she's a well trained debater.
Yes, you could say that she's a master of her trade.

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Serious / Re: UN to investigate Murrica on Native Americans
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:17:49 PM »
Nothing wrong with making sure the government abides by its contracts.

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Serious / Re: Replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day?
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:13:42 PM »
YOU are the one who claimed that they refused to cooperate.
Intercooperation, Azu, as in banding together; there wasn't enough unity among the various Indian tribes to effectively resist the European settlers from expanding. I'm not saying that they didn't try to intermingle with settlers. Hell, natives in French territory (sans the Iroquois, but that's because the French tried to help the Algonquins) loved the settlers and were pissed when they got booted out post-F&I War.

Look at the Pueblo Revolt then. It is commonly thought that Popé convinced local bands of Navajo and Apache to aid his group of Pueblo when they expelled the Spanish in 1680. Popé's Pueblo held its independence for about 12 years but they were experiencing a nasty drought, and Apaches/Navajos began raiding out of desperation, and the increasingly suffering Pueblo people resisted Popé's call to further expel the Spanish from other Pueblo lands. The independent Pueblo fell back under Spanish rule because of this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pueblo_Revolt


There's also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecumseh%27s_Confederacy

and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illinois_Confederation (eventually these illinois people were pushed out of their lands by iroquois and disease)
You aren't saying anything about this that I don't know or disagree with.

Let me rephrase the contents of that first thing you had quoted, because I think you're misunderstanding the point I was making: if there was a greater unity between native American tribes before the mid-17th century, there would have been a great chance that the European settlers would have been repelled. But there weren't any effective resistances before then (The Pueblo repelled the Spanish, but they ended up returning later just like you said), so that didn't happen.

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Serious / Re: Replace Columbus Day with Indigenous People Day?
« on: October 13, 2015, 01:00:27 PM »
YOU are the one who claimed that they refused to cooperate.
Intercooperation, Azu, as in banding together; there wasn't enough unity among the various Indian tribes to effectively resist the European settlers from expanding (until it was too late). I'm not saying that they didn't try to intermingle with settlers. Hell, natives in French territory (sans the Iroquois, but that's because the French tried to help the Algonquins) loved the settlers and were pissed when they got booted out post-F&I War. I literally made that point (that it's inaccurate to paint them as a unified nation due to the fact that there were hundreds of tribes along the Western US alone) in the very post you quoted.

And I realized last night that the last bit came off snarkily, that's why I altered it so that it wasn't directed at you, just in general. From childhood, Americans are raised on false impressions of historical events (for example, the Mayflower came to the New World 100 years after Columbus' last voyage to the Americas. Not days, months, or even years later) and I just find it a little unsettling that people like to raise a ruckus about one thing (Columbus) but not literally everything else about the time period.

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Serious / Re: Democratic Primary Debate #1
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:33:46 PM »
Abraham Chafee President '16

He cares about our video games

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The Flood / Re: There's a lot more to each of us...
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:07:19 PM »
But even open books can be misinterpreted

OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOH

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The Flood / Re: Synonymous Users
« on: October 13, 2015, 12:01:13 PM »
Naru, Naoto, and Kitty

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Serious / Re: I don't understand why people were mad at Snowden.
« on: October 13, 2015, 11:56:11 AM »
I didn't link that to pick a side, Slash; both sides of the debate accused the other of misunderstanding metadata, so I thought it would be beneficial to link an explanation and provide an example.

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Actually I sometimes wonder if it's possible to "exist" as a rock.
You can't exist as a rock, no.

Can you believe that The Rock tried to convince everyone that his name is Dwayne Johnson? What a silly stage-name, he looks nothing like a "Dwayne".

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