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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:29:42 AM »
why don't you watch something cool like house of cards or narcos
I do watch House of Cards lol, why wouldn't I

Only on S3 tho, I want to pace myself
oh okay, you're ahead of me

when my friend had me watch the first episode, we were just beginning to watch it, when he blurts this out:
Spoiler
"i don't wanna spoil anything but kevin spacey becomes POTUS"

i should've reacted more strongly because he needs to know how NOT OKAY that is
I found out when
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my mother wiki'd it halfway through S1 and told me

It's very obvious from the S5 trailer that played on the Netflix homepage, but I still hate that got spoiled.

I also own an
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Underwood 2016
shirt, and I love it

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:22:38 AM »
why don't you watch something cool like house of cards or narcos
I do watch House of Cards lol, why wouldn't I

Only on S3 tho, I want to pace myself

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:20:52 AM »

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:20:28 AM »
also what do you think of Parks & Rec

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The Flood / Re: um wow bitch, excuse you
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:16:57 AM »
this looks so gay.
Try watching it on your head then, because clearly your perception is upside down.

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The Flood / Re: What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:14:48 AM »
what's the most immoral thing you'd do for $10 million
kill someone

Although the only immoral things I would do for money are sexual or murderous, so take that as you will.

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The Flood / AMA What do you think of me
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:08:45 AM »
And anyone else who posts in this thread

also questions

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:04:09 AM »
are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.
I'm decent with words, but that doesn't make me smart; that's neither here nor there, though.

you're smarter than me at least, and i'm a fool who's convinced himself and everyone else that he's going to be something.

i've always felt that the people who genuinely have the traits to make a difference lack the showmanship of the people running things. the "successful" people of this world are just really convincing actors.
The issue with democracy is that it's the definition of mediocrity; the incompetent outnumber the competent, and they both have the same say in elections.

The difference between those that are smart and those that aren't is the ability to learn from their mistakes, and those of others.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 01:00:45 AM »
If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers
Greatest so far. I'd need to be given the 100% that they won't worry for a job, school supplies, clothing, discrimination or hatred, etc. It would require us to fix the problem caused by humanity within the next few years. That's not happening, so I'm not having kids.

basically what i'm trying to get at is, do you think any generation before ours has ever met your criterion for procreation

i'm sure this is unnecessary and verbatim has already put you through the ringer with these questions so be brief if u want
If the millennial generation is at 20% criterion for producing children, the greatest generation was at 60%.

I am anti-natalist, I'm just stupidly optimistic that some near-future generation could live in content (not even bliss, just not worrying about rent, their credit score, or debt).

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:57:52 AM »
are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

i'll take it

this is off topic but you strike me as the self-conscious type. you're very intelligent and you handled yourself very well here but i bet it doesn't translate like that irl. i wish i could help you unlock what you're capable of.
I'm decent with words, but that doesn't make me smart; that's neither here nor there, though.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:53:47 AM »
If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

do you think the greatest generation guaranteed a happy life for the baby boomers
Greatest so far. I'd need to be given the 100% that they won't worry for a job, school supplies, clothing, discrimination or hatred, etc. It would require us to fix the problem caused by humanity within the next few years. That's not happening, so I'm not having kids.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:51:31 AM »
are you like me that you want to die before 30 too

yeah who wants to live longer than that honestly
It's not that I want to, I just don't honestly see myself living that long. I almost killed myself a few months ago; I doubt the issues causing that will be fixed soon.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:48:52 AM »
I'd also add that my anti-natalism stems mostly from the fact that humanity has created issues that will last long beyond the generation mine will foster, including crippling mental health perception/funding and the statistical unlikeliness of children exceeding the lifestyle of their parents (and more likely downgrading), meaning that my potential children would most likely be worse off than me (which is awful).

If I could guarantee a happy life, I would have kids. But I can't; at most, I'll adopt.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:44:49 AM »
what i meant was that you will probably want to kill yourself no matter what job you're at lol
I will (because of issues unrelated to work), but I'd rather avoid a job that would push me over the line of suicide.

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well i don't think you're wrong for being upset. i'm upset. i just think that because you are upset, you should feel compelled to break the cycle and stop having kids, and finish your life off.
I do. It's a little hard to while working minimum wage, trying to find an apartment with friends/associates, and dealing with bills and expenses. Maybe when I'm 29 and a year from killing myself, my votes for local/state/federal government will pay off and my house representative will actually act on my behalf.

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The Flood / Re: ITT: Sports that you can actually watch
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:39:07 AM »
Baseball
Hockey
Playoffs/Superbowl

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:36:14 AM »
i don't really think it's fair to compare issues like that, though.

i'm actualy really tired and we're having like 12 different conversations right now so i'm not sure where i'm going with this one lol
I'll be lenient given your exhaustion; it was merely meant to portray the idea that, while life is imperfect, most of our larger issues (hunger, preventable disease) are caused by societal problems that could be solved with a trivial amount of empathy. I'm not calling a skinned knee "fun", I'm just saying that we could be fixing poverty if society (or Congressmen) didn't think poverty is the fault of the poor.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:31:34 AM »
i'm literally all anecdotes here but, i drive more than that daily i don't spend more than 60 a week on gas, and my truck is an old 6 cylinder so imagine how much better a somewhat modern 4 cylinder would be like.
I drive a car with 300k miles on it and that uses premium gas. So yeah.

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doesn't really address what i said about working for 5 years to help pay for stuff. and of course a job where you're moving around bricks and shit is going to have higher rates of injuries in comparison to packing up a cheeseburger and handing it through a window.

the whole suicide thing should be pretty constant no matter where you're working, though.
Just to check, you know how fucked up the US healthcare system is right? That injury rate is not sustainable.

And the article literally says that the suicide rate is double the general population.

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i mean, that's compariable to living in a toronto appartment, so are you guys in a big city or something
I live in a city that got excited about a Kroger being built and thinks gays are the worst thing in the world.

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canada's housing market isn't fantastic either but i don't know how it fares in comparison to yours. i'm basing this all on my own experience, i don't have time to do anything else.
Here's a website that shows the cost differences for various things between Canada and the US, including living expenses.

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i guess there's not much more to say, then.
I'm glad that you're living (relatively to others in the same generation) well. I don't think it's wrong to think many of our generation complain about mild inconveniences while living in relative luxury. My issue is the idea that we're wrong for being upset about conditions out of our control.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:17:58 AM »
okay, so let's say the collective baby boomer generation admits they fucked up. what then?
Hopefully that means an attempt at easing the issues arising from their mistakes, like not continually passing legislature that hurt us and canceling programs that help us.

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there are no "first world problems" that are enjoyable by any stretch of the imagination.
It's a good thing I didn't say that. I said that they are enjoyable compared to the issues that are still present because of humanity's unwillingness to help others.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:13:13 AM »
Why didn't you take those offers?
>make $170 a week
>pay a third of that for gas
>rest doesn't cover food or bills, much less savings

I wonder.

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That's wrong, then.
Yeah, that's the point.

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I know all this.

Someone has to build roads and buildings, why can't you? No one is saying you have to work in construction for 50 years. It pays well, and you'll be okay doing 5 years of it.
"With over 11 million workers, construction is one of the largest industries in the U.S. The industry has one of the highest rates of work-related injuries and suicides, and also has a high prevalence of musculoskeletal pain among its workers. A 2012 study found that 40% of construction workers over age 50 had chronic back pain. Another 2012 study found that injured workers were 45% more likely to be diagnosed with depression than non-injured workers. Other recent studies have found construction workers to have double the suicide rate of the general population."
 -Harvard article on the issues of US construction workers

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what kind of place are these people living in that costs a lowballed minumum wage salary x2 for every person living in the home just to break even
Welcome to the United States, where living in one of the most backwards states in the country still costs more than minimum wage to move out.

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um, i don't find any of this acceptable? it's unacceptable, that's why we should cease procreating.
I'm not arguing that point; I'm arguing against the mentality of "it's what we've been dealt, so deal with it". Fuck that idea, I'm going to be pissed that our lives are harder than those before us because of those before us. I'll live with it (because suicide is bad), but I won't deal with it.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 11, 2017, 12:02:32 AM »
every generation had shit they needed to overcome.
The Lost Generation dealt with WWI. The Greatest Generation dealt with Black Friday and WWII. Baby Boomers dealt with the Vietnam/Korean Wars and the civil rights movement. The MTV Generation lived in the shadow of the Cold War, with less parental supervision and were dissatisfied with the world as it is as a generational trait. The Millennial Generation lives with parents who suffer from Gulf War Syndrome, and who have been fucked out of affordable housing, reasonable work, and (soon) social security by the Baby Boomers. Every generation has shit; out of the recent generations, we have a lot of shit to deal with that is caused by a generation that refuses to admit that they fucked up.

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life is supposed to suck because humans are incapable of eternal euphoria. that's why, even though your average 14 year old boy living in a nice suburb in america still finds shit to complain about. no matter how good our lives become, we will always be dissatisfied. it's part of the human condition.
Life sucks because we've made it that way. "First World Problems" are issues, yeah, but they are issues that are enjoyable compared to the fact that that people are still starving to death and dying of preventable diseases. We can deal with the minor complaints that arise from imperfect upper middle-class living. but that's no reason shrug our shoulders at every serious fault that's arisen from our historical unwillingness to help others.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:45:59 PM »
Every job. Really. Every job?
I've worked a couple of retail jobs and a couple of food jobs (minimum wage and server's wage). My jobs options are minimum wage (40hr/wk) that will work around a college education (where I am), living wage that says will work around school (but won't actually, and fire people for not being able to work when they are demanded), and factory jobs that earn a manageable living (working 80+ hours a week and completely unable to attend college). I spent two years trying to find a non-minimum wage job that would be truly willing to work around my school schedule; instead, most offers were 30m away and would only offer minimum wage (with the possibility of getting a 10 cent pay raise every 6 months).

So yes. Really.

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And I don't know, virtually every parent I talk to is always saying things like "I wish my son/daughter had gone into the work force for a couple years before going to school. They're not ready after grade 12." So. . .
I'm glad Canadian parents are so wonderful about it. My parents (and grandparents) told me I was going to college, without even the option of taking a year off after high school (and was chewed out when I brought up the idea).

But do you know why? Previous generations were told that a degree was required to live "well"-- and since every parent reasonably wants their kids to have a good life-- practically force them to attend college. We've grown up shown cartoons of janitors, construction workers, and other non-degree jobs as being miserable and sad people because, historically, they've worked harder for less than degree jobs. People from those generations haven't left us the option of just "forgoing" the degree. I couldn't get my Dad's job without a degree (that he doesn't have), I couldn't get my grandmother's job without a degree (that she doesn't have). Do you know what job I could get without a degree that some member of my family has? The construction job that my 70 year old grandfather has (who has multiple medical complications that arose from it).

Most of us aren't given the option by our parents or by the job market.

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Hell, you could even sweeten the pot by helping with bill payments, and still pull in enough money to save for college.
That is the situation of a friend of mine who works as a manager at a shitty pizza joint. He pays $600 a month to live in his basement, as well as his car payment, phone bill, food, etc. Guess what he's trying to do right now? Move in to a shitty duplex with three other people to avoid the disappointment from his parents.

He's not even fucking going to college, he's attending a trade school for welding.

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AND even if that doesn't work out, you can still manage to save while living on your own. It will suck, you'll probably work 2 jobs full-time or semi-full-time to speed it up, but that's just the hand that you've been dealt if that's the situation.
I will direct you to all of my friends who don't live at home, who are struggling to make rent at an apartment that they share with three other friends and work two jobs; my co-workers, who work two/three jobs and from 7am to 11pm just so they don't get behind on rent.

I'm glad you're in a place that you find acceptable, but that doesn't mean everyone else is. We shouldn't find it fair to be stuck here either, so fuck you for thinking I can't think that's bullshit. But will I work with it? It's all I have, so I guess I just have to. But we shouldn't be stuck with "I guess I have to"; we should have something better than that.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:22:59 PM »
The justification of "that's life" simply doesn't fly with me, really. The whole "that's just the way it is" is a terrible mindset if you ask me and just accepting it will always be like that is kinda shitty.

It's the same way Jim Crow laws worked. It's not that every single white was hating on the blacks and saw them as subhuman. A lot of people just had the mindset of "that's just the way it is" when seeing things like that. The fact it's sunken in as cultural norm is the part I vehemently disagree with.

I get what you're saying, and we should be striving to improve everyone's lives, but it is going to take an extroardinary amount of work to get there. We can't just sit back and say "This is how it should be, make it so." WE have to be the ones to make these changes, which is a very tall order in and of itself.

Personally, I know the shittier millennials find their lives, the more likely they are to adopt my anti-natalistic point of view, so I don't really care if things get better or not. Life is supposed to suck, anyway.
Nobody is complaining about the idea of work. We're complaining that we have to both work harder than previous generations just to make a living while also getting the living shit mocked out of us for finding that fucked up. We are the ones that have to fix it, yeah, but it's a problem created by baby boomers. I wouldn't call it unreasonable to be a bit upset at the fact that we're expected to dig ourselves out of a hole that we were practically thrown into.

I also disagree that life is supposed to suck. Life could be paradise, but humanity has historically done a shitty job of making it so. Don't confuse the results from 200 millennia of incompetence to just be a fact of the universe. We can do better, and we should do better.

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The Flood / Re: Generation Y has been robbed
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:16:08 PM »
uhh what

Gen y = millennial

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Gaming / Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft conference tomorrow @ 2 PM PT
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:15:01 PM »
Can someone give me a rundown of the conference? I was at work all day.
rothschilds bow to bogdanoffs
Thanks

Solid 4/10

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 11:11:46 PM »
The housing market is fucked to be sure. But there are loads of ways around student debt and jobs. I think kids just go to college right after highschool because they're scared of getting into the workforce, and schooling is much more comfortable.

You could work for 3-4 years and save up enough for tuition, or at least, a much more managable student debt once you graduate. And on top of that, you will actually have job experience and maturity to go along with it, which is what I think employers are really looking for. And there are plenty of jobs out there, you just have to be willing to go outside your comfort zone. We can't all work at American Eagle.

Life fucking sucks, it has always sucked, and it's going to continue to suck. Stop having kids; break the cycle.
I don't know about where you live, but 99% of the people I know don't have that luxury. We've all been given of "go to college and be allowed to live at home for a few more years, or don't go to college and move out immediately after high school". Every job in the greater area is either minimum wage or refuses to work around a school schedule.

I think that blaming the people burdened with stupidly high student debt that no previous generation had to deal with is fair at all. Every previous generation could afford to both move out immediately after high school (if they even graduated) and attend college (or enter a career that paid well without the need for a degree). Are there a fuckload of whiners in the millennial generation? Yeah. Was the millennial generation coddled by Gen X to the point of entitlement? Yeah. Is it the millennial generation's fault that the housing market is fucked, tuition is rising at an astronomical rate, and that any job that has actually scaled with inflation and can be reasonably performed until your 60s is locked behind a bachelor's degree? Hell to-the-fuck no.

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Gaming / Re: E3 2017 - Microsoft conference tomorrow @ 2 PM PT
« on: June 10, 2017, 10:55:25 PM »
Can someone give me a rundown of the conference? I was at work all day.

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 10, 2017, 03:29:39 AM »
I may be drunk but Charlie is still a fucking retard.
It's okay, you're a retard too.

Hey let's go on a date
I don't date people with shit taste

We have so much in common already
It must be hard to find someone that's the exact opposite of you

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 09, 2017, 10:44:43 PM »
I may be drunk but Charlie is still a fucking retard.
It's okay, you're a retard too.

Hey let's go on a date
I don't date people with shit taste

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The Flood / Re: Should Trump be allowed to resign?
« on: June 09, 2017, 10:37:57 PM »
I may be drunk but Charlie is still a fucking retard.
It's okay, you're a retard too.

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The Flood / Re: The truth about Scooby-Doo
« on: June 09, 2017, 03:56:29 PM »
Man your threads are terrible
didnt you literally just make a thread bitching about people not using proper punctuation
it was an ironic meme thread you dip
oh okay sure

so is this one
you're just an idiot you're not wrapped in irony like I am
how many layers

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