Honestly, I just don't care enough about the American Revolution to try and invest my attention in it.

But it's nice that Alexander Hamilton got some public attention.

Tbh it's only interesting as it relates to the Anglo-French Wars (specifically the Seven Years War and the Anglo-French War of 1783) and the issues of Colonialism.

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I'm 11-hours in to a WWI podcast, and also planning to buy a dozen or so books on the subject. After that I'll probably jump into Napoleonic Wars stuff, even if that seems a bit backwards.

It's all about finding something that you're interested in.

maybe, but if i want to have a well-rounded base of knowledge on world history, i'm gonna have to dip my toes into some boring shit, and i'm sure you have too

i just don't know how to deal with that

the only thing i'm super interested in is the holocaust, which i feel like i already know a great deal about, minus a few important spots, like "why did people listen to hitler's BS about the 'master race' when he himself was not even part of it," among other things

questions like that are impossible to google because nobody can just give you a straight answer, it's always a short novella about irrelevant stuff you don't care about, but is somehow connected to the answer in some lowkey important way

idk, it's really tedious

Start with what's interesting, then follow the threads back. It's why WWI is such a good World History jumping-point imo, because there are a LOT of reasons it happened (and more reasons why things happened in it) that can be traced back to the Napoleonic Wars or earlier. Reading the boring stuff isn't as boring if you can easily connect it to something you find exciting.

For questions like the one you posed, I would start with the Treaty of Versailles and follow the lines from there out to German society, and Western thoughts on the subject (especially the writings of Keynes and the social response it created).

What is this fucking soap opera shit

We grew up with Days of our Kikes on the TV, now life is looking like it. The ZOG plan is working.

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Boring

One of the best comedies ever

Parks and Rec > The Office

The job would have been boring and unfulfilling, not the show.

But Ben loves doing accounting work, like Leslie's love for government paperwork.

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You don't disagree with me. See how I said "as soon as you realize". Even if the thought is unconscious, it's still a bad thought, but you aren't bad until you identify the thought and don't fight against it.

As long as "fight against it" includes "acting on it" or "intentionally encouraging someone else to act on it", then everything should be hunky-dory.

Nah lol, not fighting against it means nothing but not trying to eliminate the bad subconscious thought from your mind

If I had racist tendencies subconsciously and then one day suddenly realized that, I would be a shitty person if I didn't try to actively change it

I mean, actively changing it would be doing your best to reduce or eliminate that bias. For real, not all thoughts can be eliminated outright. You can just do your best to ignore or act in the opposite of them.

only spoilered to reduce the use of pity points

I have OCD, and it is a living nightmare to have awful thoughts of people I don't know. While it sucks, it has also given me the perspective that all people deal with bad thoughts to some extent, and the good ones are the people who I can't know the bad thoughts of since they decline to act upon them.

OCD is a mental condition, bigotry/learned biases aren't

Spoiler

I definitely had some level of OCD when I was a kid, or at least the symptoms of it. Always related to night rituals and such because of my sleep issues

I don't really feel it today tho, I guess with really minor things like drawers or needing to correct superstitions I break even though I know it's bullshit

nothing to your level though, that's pretty terrible

The point is that it's not wrong to have a bias, but it is wrong to act upon that bias. As long as one is willing to shut out that voice and keep an open mind, there's nothing wrong with having bad thoughts.

edit: in the context of the greater discussion, that would be the difference between saying someone has a "punchable face" and punching/encouraging someone to punch someone in the face. It's okay as long as it remains solely a turn-of-phrase rather than an actuality.

Quote from: Aria on June 15, 2017, 02:02:40 AM

the profit margin for the drug was beyond reasonable (which was discussed among analysts for various news networks at length)

if you could link me those discussions (either now or later, idc) i'd probably be interested in listening to them

i'm open to the idea that shkreli was being dishonest—it's just that most of the people who hate him only hate him because they only read the headline of the initial price hike story and nothing more

Wait for it, boom.

Both sides even agree that it's just opportunistic profiteering in this case, regardless of profit vs innovation driving the industry.

is it not understandable how he'd react in such a way

Knowing that you've made a decision that will make a lot of people angry-- and then digging the trench deeper when more people are angry than you thought would be-- is not justification for continuing to be an asshole. The best response following the incident would have be to respond to the outrage with pure fiscal intent, then to donate a lot of money (but still paltry compared to his earnings) to an AIDS charity. That would have at least put him into "psycho who understands the public" territory, instead of "psycho who just wants to piss people off" territory. One of those is reasonable for the head of a pharmaceutical firm, the other is reasonable for someone on an MTV reality TV drama. Guess which one is which.

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"If Taylor Swift wants to come over and suck my d***, I’ll play it for her."

"If there is a curious gap in your favorite artist's discography, well, now you know why." (referring to the Wu-Tang album)

"My investors expect me to maximize profits, not to minimize them, or go half, or go 70 percent, but to go to 100 percent of the profit curve that we're all taught in MBA class."

He's the equivalent of a Saturday morning cartoon villain.

yeah, and maybe it's just my contrarianism—or maybe i have some sort of kinship with him—but i find him extremely difficult to hate

and trust me, nobody hated him more than me when that headline first broke out

idk, it seems more like you'd appreciate him due to him being the perfect example of evil capitalism than anything else. There's no wrong in profit, for example, but the profit margin for the drug was beyond reasonable (which was discussed among analysts for various news networks at length), and the fact that he made a list of artists he'd pay to make an album for him alone in a livestream populated by Wu-Tang fans begging to hear just one song.

Quote from: Aria on June 15, 2017, 01:30:32 AM

Class pls, I want to discuss this in a reasonable context.

was this really what arguing with me was like back in the day

Better, actually. The closest equivalent would be like Class in Jive threads, but instead to every post you made instead of every thread.

although I do appreciate you trying to move the subject to a different thread, even if the title and subject invite the viewer to enter with a bias 👍

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____TOP 3_____
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin
3. Andy Dwyer

nah, Burt Macklin made a kid cry by pointing a finger gun at him

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin

Yeah, but Burt Macklin is FBI
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin (R.I.P.)
3, Andy Dwyer (S1+)

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin
4. Andy Dwyer (S1)

Beyond the game rank: Brendanaquiz

I do agree that Andy Dwyer is inferior to Season 2 version and up, as he didn't have as much of a focal point nor the charm that he later aquires in the later seasons but he does not surpass the man who is named "Burt Macklin FBI"

eh, best use of Burt Macklin was in the Snakehole and as a Johnny Karate character. While the couple of episodes of the former were good, the latter is awesome and is (imo) under the spectrum of Johnny Karate.

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____TOP 3_____
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin
3. Andy Dwyer

nah, Burt Macklin made a kid cry by pointing a finger gun at him

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin

Yeah, but Burt Macklin is FBI
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin (R.I.P.)
3, Andy Dwyer (S1+)

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin
4. Andy Dwyer (S1)

Beyond the game rank: Brendanaquiz

____TOP 3_____
1. Johnny Karate
2. Burt Macklin
3. Andy Dwyer

nah, Burt Macklin made a kid cry by pointing a finger gun at him

1. Johnny Karate
2. Andy Dwyer (S2+)
3. Burt Macklin

ARE YOU HAPPY VERB

YOU RUINED MY WHOLE PINEAPPLE

Quote from: Aria on June 15, 2017, 01:16:21 AM

So you are the most hardcore communist I've ever talked to

and believe Martin did nothing wrong

🤔

hmm, i think this is a bigger subject than this thread can reasonably contain tbh

how much have you actually looked into the whole drug price hike thing

Okay, that's a subject on its own

but then the whole Wu-Tang album happened after that, plus his offer to other artists to have the sole ownership of their musical creations. After all that, his arguments about the pharmaceutical fiasco seem fabricated at best.