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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 11:05:19 PM »

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Serious / Re: Brendan Fraser got groped
« on: March 26, 2018, 11:04:21 PM »
Can't believe Brendan is that much of a sissy he couldn't tell this person to stop.
Apologize you piece of shit

For what? I've done nothing to warrant giving one. Brendan even admitted he stood there and did nothing. He should have been a man and defended himself. Told him to stop, and had the dude continued, shoot him dead if it is needed.
I'll shoot you dead if you don't apologize right now.

Hahahahahahahaha!
I'm gonna have you laughing towards your grave motherfuck

I do enjoy laughing.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 26, 2018, 10:16:09 PM »
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His sources were no better or less biased than mine, actually.
Lol. You had two sources. One is "Wintery Knight", an anonymous, heavily religious and very much right wing and pro-gun blogger with zero credentials citing a 6 year old Fox News editorial by, as I already pointed out, a discredited and nearly fraudulent NRA-financed economist whose research is so shoddy that even other right wing institutions like Cato have distanced themselves from him. The other is nothing more than an opinion piece by a climate change denier who didn't provide any links to his sources and cited long debunked research from the 90's that was so incorrect and misleading that even the DoJ got involved in the gun debate with a press release stating that it's in no way reliable. Excellent and unbiased sources man.

Mine were by PhD's in public health and law, the RAND Corporation, the Yale Institution for Social and Policy Studies, the University of Chicago Crime Lab, the International Business Times providing a factual overview of gun control in Chicago, a Snopes article filled with references, the Scientific American Journal and the Live Science Magazine (both providing an index of dozens of peer reviewed studies) and the official Department of Justice's National Gang Center.

It's very disingenuous to imply these are equal or even comparable, and the fact that you've been unable to respond to any of my arguments and counter-points very much adds to that.

Snopes and Rand are garbage, not sure about the others, but many were biased towards government. Also, I posted Forbes. You haven't presented a credible argument for me to respond to.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/paulhsieh/2018/03/20/any-study-of-gun-violence-should-include-how-guns-save-lives/#3b1464d5edc5

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 05:43:31 PM »
Weed or marijuana?

I just made some wax brownies.

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Serious / Re: Florida school shooting - 17+ dead
« on: March 26, 2018, 05:03:06 PM »
what rights are being trampled on, exactly

The right to self-defense. Plenty of others by the government as well, but I will stay relevant.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 26, 2018, 04:42:23 PM »
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His sources were no better or less biased than mine, actually.

You also didn't insult me, you agreed with me.

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 04:41:09 PM »

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Serious / Re: Florida school shooting - 17+ dead
« on: March 26, 2018, 04:40:42 PM »
Probably setup by the government, honestly. Coward cop hid and the F.B.I. was warned.
The deep state has a lot of power and influence on US politics. It's been hinted that the majority of mass shooting are set up.
Why would they set them up?

For an excuse to spread fear in people, which is an excuse to trample our rights. Also note - Most mass shooters are on drugs forced on a lot of people from the government medical company. The same government that criminally claims cannabis is illegal while simultaneously possessing patents on medical cannabis.
If they already have a lot of power and influence why do they need to set up an extremely complex operation the likes of which has never been seen where hundreds of American civilians (particularly children) are murdered? How is there hasn't been a single whistleblower in all these years?

Hahaha this is a UFO tier conspiracy theory. No group could keep this much control over an operation like this.

Government has no problem murdering children. Look at how they set them on fire during Waco and that took a long time to get out. It isn't hard.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 26, 2018, 04:19:28 PM »
No, it's not. It's educated and backed by experience.

https://winteryknight.com/2012/12/03/crime-rates-in-chicago-and-dc-drop-after-gun-control-laws-are-struck-down-3/
Written by John Lott, a widely discredited economist with no experience in public policy and criminology, who's borderline fraudulent and has a wikipedia page that's largely about his "controversies" such as him being paid by the NRA for his research and having falsified peer review. Poor and biased source that doesn't have much going for it. Anyone with any knowledge on crime trends knows that it's largely meaningless to evaluate them like this by ignoring other initiatives contributing to this and not looking at the larger picture (homicides actually shot up in the year of the gun ban being repealed and the rates were actually pretty consistent and stable in the years after before rapidly increasing again). Chicago's crime problems come from it being the "crime capital" long before gun control laws were even a thing. It doesn't have high crime rates because of strict gun control, it has strict gun control because it has high crime rates and when comparing these rates to gun regulation initiatives in the city, there's a case to be made that they've had a positive impact. It's also a generally poor example to use either way as it's an island of stricter gun control rules surrounded by areas with lax restrictions that simply import the guns that are used in crime. It also completely fails when you compare them to certain other cities such as St. Louis which is in a state with very lax gun control rules and yet is still the most violent city in all of the US.

I'm not going to say that it's definitive proof that gun control works but they most definitely aren't proof that it doesn't either. You focusing on a rescinded policy 10 years ago while ignoring the actual problem of where the guns came from doesn't do anything to back up your poor initial argument that "it's proven that gun control makes things worse" and that it actually increased crime in two cities. It's a very shortsighted and uninformed thing to say and try to make a point out of.

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Places like Kennesaw, GA, where firearm ownership is REQUIRED BY LAW, have virtually no crime.
This is actually both false and misleading, as the law doesn't do anything and crime rates in towns like that already are low.

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Citizens are also better able to stop criminals than police are, as well. If anyone should be disarmed you need to start with them.
Again, a very questionable claim not really backed up by facts. The whole defensive gun use debate is iffy at best, but there's strong evidence that states with more guns and looser gun control laws do not prevent, deter or stop more crimes than others but are instead associated with more gun violence and higher violent crime rates.

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"Law-abiding American citizens using guns in self-defense during 2003 shot and killed two and one-half times as many criminals as police did, and with fewer than one-fifth as many incidents as police where an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal (2% versus 11%)."
"Criminals shot dead" is a pretty horrible metric of whose better at stopping crime. There's also not actually a source for that claim anywhere in there.

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Over half of all firearm crime here is due to gangs, which is the fault of the illegal drug laws.
Source? The DoJ's National Gang Center data indicates that only a relatively small part of all gun homicides in the US are gang-related, so I'm definitely interested in evidence to the contrary.
 
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You're not seeing all of the variables here.
That's an interesting thing to say for someone who literally just made the argument that gun control only increases gun crime based on the correlation between a single policy change in a particular city and its crime stats the 6 following months, especially so when in response to a 400+ page long research report that evaluates the findings of literally dozens and dozens of peer reviewed studies on this topic. Come on now... If anything, you're the one ignoring variables by cherrypicking an example and pretending that correlation equates to causation while conveniently ignoring the rest of the story.

And why are these states surrounding Chicago not as bad off?

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 03:36:23 PM »
Paved roads are for incontinent manchildren who want to live off of the government's tit.

Paved roads are also better maintained by the private sector and significantly cheaper. Dubai has flying cars right now hahaha!

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Serious / Re: Florida school shooting - 17+ dead
« on: March 26, 2018, 03:18:45 PM »
Probably setup by the government, honestly. Coward cop hid and the F.B.I. was warned.
The deep state has a lot of power and influence on US politics. It's been hinted that the majority of mass shooting are set up.
Why would they set them up?

For an excuse to spread fear in people, which is an excuse to trample our rights. Also note - Most mass shooters are on drugs forced on a lot of people from the government medical company. The same government that criminally claims cannabis is illegal while simultaneously possessing patents on medical cannabis.

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Serious / Re: School shooting stopped almost immediately
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:50:14 PM »
Remember how police stopped paramedics from entering. Lives could have been saved.

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Serious / Re: Brendan Fraser got groped
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:47:21 PM »
Can't believe Brendan is that much of a sissy he couldn't tell this person to stop.
Apologize you piece of shit

For what? I've done nothing to warrant giving one. Brendan even admitted he stood there and did nothing. He should have been a man and defended himself. Told him to stop, and had the dude continued, shoot him dead if it is needed.
I'll shoot you dead if you don't apologize right now.

Hahahahahahahaha!

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:31:57 PM »

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Serious / Re: Brendan Fraser got groped
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:31:27 PM »
Can't believe Brendan is that much of a sissy he couldn't tell this person to stop.
Apologize you piece of shit

For what? I've done nothing to warrant giving one. Brendan even admitted he stood there and did nothing. He should have been a man and defended himself. Told him to stop, and had the dude continued, shoot him dead if it is needed.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 26, 2018, 02:29:22 PM »
It is proven that gun control only makes things worse, even in areas with strict gun control like Chicago and D.C. it increased GUN CRIME!
On the off-chance that you're not just another troll, this is factually false and downright uninformed to say.

No, it's not. It's educated and backed by experience.

https://winteryknight.com/2012/12/03/crime-rates-in-chicago-and-dc-drop-after-gun-control-laws-are-struck-down-3/

Places like Kennesaw, GA, where firearm ownership is REQUIRED BY LAW, have virtually no crime. Citizens are also better able to stop criminals than police are, as well. If anyone should be disarmed you need to start with them.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/larrybell/2012/02/21/disarming-the-myths-promoted-by-the-gun-control-lobby/#74174c72470c

"Law-abiding American citizens using guns in self-defense during 2003 shot and killed two and one-half times as many criminals as police did, and with fewer than one-fifth as many incidents as police where an innocent person mistakenly identified as a criminal (2% versus 11%)."

Over half of all firearm crime here is due to gangs, which is the fault of the illegal drug laws. Doesn't help when our government gives known murderers firearms, either, which were used to murder Americans. You're not seeing all of the variables here. People have every right to defend themselves.

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The Flood / The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:23:04 PM »
So that dumb kid crying about gun control now says the clear backpacks violate his Constitutional rights! HAHAHAHA! I love when people attempting to trample the Constitution try to invoke it out of convenience with their personal beliefs. It's just too good. He asked for more government, he got it.

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Serious / Re: Florida school shooting - 17+ dead
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:17:23 PM »
Probably setup by the government, honestly. Coward cop hid and the F.B.I. was warned.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:15:41 PM »
And people told me Trump was for natural rights and freedom. Hahahaha, he duped people well and this is why I don't bother voting, because we have no real option other than more corrupt government. It is proven that gun control only makes things worse, even in areas with strict gun control like Chicago and D.C. it increased GUN CRIME!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/i-used-to-think-gun-control-was-the-answer-my-research-told-me-otherwise/2017/10/03/d33edca6-a851-11e7-92d1-58c702d2d975_story.html?utm_term=.feec91d1cc02

The real answer is restoring firearm freedom and doing away with horrible drug prohibition.

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Serious / Re: Brendan Fraser got groped
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:12:43 PM »
Can't believe Brendan is that much of a sissy he couldn't tell this person to stop.

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Serious / Re: Trump bans transgender people from serving in military
« on: March 26, 2018, 01:10:05 PM »
Anyone should be able to serve, but they should not have their unnecessary operations paid for by taxpayers. Also, seems like a bad idea to me to take a group that already has high suicide rates and encourage them to join the military which has record high suicide rates already. Not to mention the wars we are in are complete jokes.

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So their punishment for someone pretending to be a Nazi is locking them up just like Nazis would do? What a fine example, Scotland!

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