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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 28, 2018, 01:20:58 PM »
You are the worst kind of person in a debate, you just close your ears and scream you won, when the evidence proves otherwise.
Yeah, you're just a troll. Figured this was the case from your first point but didn't want to at least give you a fair chance to see if the stupidity cleared up a bit. Guess I was wrong.

Spoiler
HAHAHAHAHAHA!
The only stupidity I see here is yours. You are right about you being wrong, though.
you forgot to bring up that you were an elf on everquest or whatever

Never played Everquest. I do have Guild Wars II and am an Asari, but why the hell are we discussing games now?

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 28, 2018, 01:18:47 PM »
You are the worst kind of person in a debate, you just close your ears and scream you won, when the evidence proves otherwise.
Yeah, you're just a troll. Figured this was the case from your first point but didn't want to at least give you a fair chance to see if the stupidity cleared up a bit. Guess I was wrong.

Spoiler
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

The only stupidity I see here is yours. You are right about you being wrong, though.
Put that mirror down! HAHAHAHA!

What do mirrors have to do with anything? I'm sure you could beat someone to death with those also, we better ban them!

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 28, 2018, 01:17:09 PM »
You are the worst kind of person in a debate, you just close your ears and scream you won, when the evidence proves otherwise.
Yeah, you're just a troll. Figured this was the case from your first point but didn't want to at least give you a fair chance to see if the stupidity cleared up a bit. Guess I was wrong.

Spoiler
HAHAHAHAHAHA!

The only stupidity I see here is yours. You are right about you being wrong, though.

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This should be good, especially when I am adamantly AGAINST torture.
apparently not
Your link failed...
works just fine for me

Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells.
this is torture
That is definitely NOT torture. It is how prison should be so people are actually deterred to land themselves there.
you can say that it isn't torture, but that doesn't make it so

I say it because it isn't torture. It is caring for a criminal.

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This should be good, especially when I am adamantly AGAINST torture.
apparently not
Your link failed...
works just fine for me

Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells.
this is torture

That is definitely NOT torture. It is how prison should be so people are actually deterred to land themselves there.

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This should be good, especially when I am adamantly AGAINST torture.
apparently not

Your link failed...

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This should be good, especially when I am adamantly AGAINST torture.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen
Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.
so

torture
No, I am not advocating for any inflicting pain. Just let them live the most basic lives so they are simultaneously not a threat anymore and punished for their crimes.
torture doesn't have to involve the infliction of pain

being confined and being fed the cheapest food is living less than a basic life

it's basically torture
How is that less than a basic life? That is just survival. Lot of people can't even find food for a whole day on this planet, they are still more well-off than a lot of people. Physiological torture is a thing, but I am not advocating for that, either.
but you are
Haven't one time. Not sure how you are interpreting my posts that way.
probably because that's the only way to interpret them if you're a reasonable person
There is no reason to falsely assume I want to torture people when I never condoned torture one time, ever.
but you have

Where? Provide proof of your claim.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen
Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.
so

torture
No, I am not advocating for any inflicting pain. Just let them live the most basic lives so they are simultaneously not a threat anymore and punished for their crimes.
torture doesn't have to involve the infliction of pain

being confined and being fed the cheapest food is living less than a basic life

it's basically torture
How is that less than a basic life? That is just survival. Lot of people can't even find food for a whole day on this planet, they are still more well-off than a lot of people. Physiological torture is a thing, but I am not advocating for that, either.
but you are
Haven't one time. Not sure how you are interpreting my posts that way.
probably because that's the only way to interpret them if you're a reasonable person

There is no reason to falsely assume I want to torture people when I never condoned torture one time, ever.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen
Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.
so

torture
No, I am not advocating for any inflicting pain. Just let them live the most basic lives so they are simultaneously not a threat anymore and punished for their crimes.
torture doesn't have to involve the infliction of pain

being confined and being fed the cheapest food is living less than a basic life

it's basically torture
How is that less than a basic life? That is just survival. Lot of people can't even find food for a whole day on this planet, they are still more well-off than a lot of people. Physiological torture is a thing, but I am not advocating for that, either.
but you are

Haven't one time. Not sure how you are interpreting my posts that way.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen
Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.
so

torture
No, I am not advocating for any inflicting pain. Just let them live the most basic lives so they are simultaneously not a threat anymore and punished for their crimes.
torture doesn't have to involve the infliction of pain

being confined and being fed the cheapest food is living less than a basic life

it's basically torture

How is that less than a basic life? That is just survival. Lot of people can't even find food for a whole day on this planet, they are still more well-off than a lot of people. Physiological torture is a thing, but I am not advocating for that, either.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen
Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.
so

torture

No, I am not advocating for any inflicting pain. Just let them live the most basic lives so they are simultaneously not a threat anymore and punished for their crimes.

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Gaming / Re: Anyone Playing Ironsight?
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:44:20 PM »
Never even heard of it before.

I'd check it out. Solid FPS, easily better than COD, and FREE. (At least for right now)

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Gaming / Re: Finally finished Halo 5
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:43:43 PM »
or as I have taken to calling it:

Pretty Much Nothing Happens: The Video Game

seriously it starts, then Chief goes to where Cortana is, then Cortana leaves, and Chief goes to Sanghelios

I guess there's the whole thing on Meridia, and the very short war on Sanghelios, but none of the characters in that portion of the game felt important, and the conflict all felt manufactured and auxiliary to the plot

characters who could've been great like Governor Sloan and Exuberant Witness felt like they were shoved in at the last second, and were completely flat as characters

Sloan's betrayal didn't even feel moderately as close to game changing as Guilty Spark's, and Exuberant Witness pretty much only existed to open doors

even the Arbiter was boring
where we should see his triumphant charge to finally break his people of the old ways, and become a beacon of hope for the future of Sanghelios, we more see him getting his butt kicked then he gets saved by the Spartans and that's pretty much it

what made him work in Halo 2 was his pain and his failure, and the second chance he knew he didn't deserve, and watching that turn slowly into revelation that his failure was not only inevitable, but also that his task only served to perpetuate a lie that kept his people enslaved

Halo 5 could have been the culmination of that, but instead it got breezed over as an subplot that's only kinda there if you look for it

I'm grossly disappointed

Solid story, but it was pretty boring. Also didn't like the dumb ground pound nonsense.

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:42:49 PM »
we literally permabanned this guy so i don't know why he's still allowed to post

He must have blocked me because I don't see his posts.

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:42:22 PM »
that's enough retarded shit for one night i think
Exactly. I can't believe the media gives this attention-whore any time on-air.
except i'm talking about you

Not sure what you mean.

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:41:53 PM »


Not bad but I prefer black girls.
Get the fuck out
Hold on, that only proves this might be camnator



At least the dude has been enlightened. Black goddesses are magical.

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The Flood / Re: The Irony Is Too Perfect
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:40:42 PM »
that's enough retarded shit for one night i think

Exactly. I can't believe the media gives this attention-whore any time on-air.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.
so you wanna torture people

i mean so do i, but i'm not gonna pretend like it's something that should actually happen

Where the hell in my posts did you read I wanted to torture people? Feed them the cheapest food and never let them out of their cells. Amount of guards needed drops way down.

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Serious / Re: More gun news: Trump & evidence for gun control
« on: March 28, 2018, 12:37:06 PM »
Are you just going to continue to ignore the evidence and the points I make while moving the goalposts and becoming less coherent? Nothing you've said has shown much common sense or managed to stand up to scrutiny. You started by saying gun control doesn't work and only increases crime. I pointed out the flaws in your sources, provided facts and statistics to the contrary, and linked you lots of solid research directly refuting every claim you made about crime in Chicago / Kennesaw, defensive gun use and gang violence. You ignored all of this and instead asked the strange question of why the century-long crime capital of the country has more gun violence than the areas around it. Still, I gave you a detailed response and provided even more evidence contrary to your initial arguments. At that point, you tried and failed to discredit high quality sources and pretend that your anonymous blogger and shoddy opinion piece are as valid as peer reviewed and published studies, global think tanks, governmental institutions and longstanding research projects from universities like Yale and UChicago. That's where we're at right now. You have yet to make a single good argument and I have countered or refuted every last one of your points. I'm not sure if you just don't understand how to have a debate or are just so biased that no hard facts or common sense will ever matter, but you really have failed at making any sort of decent case against gun control or back up your original points.

People that want to kill are significantly better at doing so with the easy access to some of the most deadly weapons we have available to us. Gun control is not the same as prohibition. The case in favor of defensive gun use is flimsy at best and the very situation that gives people the guns to defend themselves also gives criminals firearms to use for crime and for others to misuse. Bombs are actually relatively bad tools for committing the types of massacres we're seeing in the US as clearly evidenced by the lack of mass bombings in recent history. Bombs are dangerous to the user, can be used in a lot less circumstances, aren't flexible and are difficult to use effectively, and take a good amount of skill to properly make. A gun on the other hand only requires you to point it at someone and pull the trigger. Not all mass shooters were on psychiatric drugs and you're going off into conspiracy theory ramblings by insisting that it's the government pushing them on people. Mass shooters do not only target gun free zones (this has been extensively researched with no convincing evidence for your claim and several counters to it) and FBI research has demonstrated they tend to attack places of relevance or close proximity with zero regard for gun rules. The idea that the Aurora Shooter picked the theater because it didn't allow guns has already been refuted.

Come on now dude. There's almost no rhyme or reason to what you say and half of it is verifiably incorrect or heavily contested. You make a generally poor and uninformed point, I refute it and provide evidence and facts to the contrary, and then you just ignore that you've just been proven wrong or provided with counter-points and just make another random claim as if nothing happened. That's not how this works and it's pretty delusional that you keep telling others to have common sense or look at the variables when you can't even follow through on a simple debate without ignoring facts and just desperately throwing random points at me in the hopes that one will stick.

I have made my points which are proven by experience and practice and you falsely claim your biased sources are somehow better. Fact is, bombs are banned and still used in attacks. The Columbine kids made 99 pipe bombs in their home which thankfully failed to detonate. Had they, about 1,300 people would have died when the library had collapsed in the cafeteria, which both were highly populated at the time. So yes, bombs ARE far better at killing massive amounts of people. There are plenty of other sources if you want to do a simple Google search for gun control making things worse, but I know the moment I post them you will blindly ignore it. You are the worst kind of person in a debate, you just close your ears and scream you won, when the evidence proves otherwise. Fact is, firearms SAVE lives and are used to protect people. Even the last school shooting was thwarted by an armed guard. Disarming innocent people is the dumbest thing you can do, and even IF it dropped firearm crime that is STILL not reason enough to ban any firearms, as the main reason we have the second amendment is to have an option to resist government tyranny when the time comes. You know, so we don't get arrested for taking pictures with dogs or not having a television license. Now you deny the common knowledge of these shooters being on depression medication when it is common knowledge they were. You really need to get new sources, because yours suck. Oh ya, forgot about Britain's KNIFE BUY-BACK PROGRAM! HAHAHAHAHAHA! Knives are also deadly and no one needs them, so that must be a solution to stop violence! And don't forget how over 30 people died in a knife attack in Chine. That is literally how insane your logic is.

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I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.
prisons are relatively comfy and people are highly adaptive—they're very good at convincing themselves that the shit they're swimming in "isn't so bad," because in that scenario, they have no other psychologically rewarding choice

it's also just delaying the inevitable

killing them instantly is just ridding the world of another piece of fucking garbage

the only thing is, it costs more to put someone on death row than it does to keep them in prison, and since that's the only logic-based point you could really bring up, i'm not surprised you failed to do so
The other logical choice is making prisons more miserable and far less expensive.

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Serious / Re: being offended "for" people
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:49:42 PM »
god i love the government
I hope that is sarcasm.
nope

i genuinely want the government to have a complete stranglehold on everyone's life until we're all dead

people don't understand how to behave and they never will, so they shouldn't have any rights at all, and we should all just be forced to die out
HAHAHAHAHAA! Good one!
i'm not joking

i want to live in orwell's worst nightmare, because that's what the human race deserves to live in
How old are you? Did you have a horrible break up or something? I've met some powerful women that made me feel like you before.
how old do you think i am

I was thinking 14 or 15. If I had to guess.

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and if you do get wrongfully murdered, the cop should be put to death

that's the only appropriate punishment—becoming a police officer should be signing a death warrant should you abuse your power
Why not life in prison? Seems silly to  murder and then claim murder is wrong.
murder isn't wrong

murder for no good reason is wrong

killing someone for having no good reason for murdering is a good reason

I think it is a bad reason, and we have no authority to murder. Besides, life in prison is a much harsher punishment and they deserve a long life of misery to reflect on what the did.

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Serious / Re: being offended "for" people
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:48:05 PM »
god i love the government
I hope that is sarcasm.
nope

i genuinely want the government to have a complete stranglehold on everyone's life until we're all dead

people don't understand how to behave and they never will, so they shouldn't have any rights at all, and we should all just be forced to die out
HAHAHAHAHAA! Good one!
i'm not joking

i want to live in orwell's worst nightmare, because that's what the human race deserves to live in

How old are you? Did you have a horrible break up or something? I've met some powerful women that made me feel like you before.

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Serious / Re: being offended "for" people
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:38:04 PM »
god i love the government
I hope that is sarcasm.
nope

i genuinely want the government to have a complete stranglehold on everyone's life until we're all dead

people don't understand how to behave and they never will, so they shouldn't have any rights at all, and we should all just be forced to die out

HAHAHAHAHAA! Good one!

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and if you do get wrongfully murdered, the cop should be put to death

that's the only appropriate punishment—becoming a police officer should be signing a death warrant should you abuse your power

Why not life in prison? Seems silly to  murder and then claim murder is wrong.

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All I'm saying fam, is that if I ain't threatening the livelihood of that cop and he pulls a firearm on me, I should 100% be within my rights to draw my own firearm and pre-emptively kill that cop before he illegally kills me.

You are, but your life is 100% fucked afterwards.

People have been found not guilty before.

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The Flood / Re: Better Call Saul s3 now on Netflix
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:23:07 PM »
I love that show and he was in Disaster Artist!

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Serious / Re: being offended "for" people
« on: March 27, 2018, 11:21:19 PM »
god i love the government

I hope that is sarcasm.

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The Flood / Re: Why is there a Scientology Network?
« on: March 27, 2018, 10:50:34 PM »
People want answers even when they have to make them up. I don't think this particular religion is any more silly than the majority of others.

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