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18661
« on: January 31, 2015, 07:05:57 PM »
TLOU is uninspired, poorly-realized trash for the casual generation.
That's just elitist bullshit, and you know it. You can dislike the game without trying to promote yourself as some enlightened game-quality guru.
is it? or do i just have standards?
Even that statement is elitist. You're implying I don't have standards. Look, I can understand someone not liking the game (LC stated his opinion rather well, actually. Something I didn't expect from that kind of user) for your reasons. But you saying "it's made for the casual audience" (more or less), is trying to put yourself off as someone above the "peasants" or, "serfs" of the gaming industry. "The common people enjoy TLOU. They need it for their casual mindset. Not people like me, though. People with standards."
18662
« on: January 31, 2015, 07:00:59 PM »
TLOU is a terrible game and if you consider it one of the "best" of anything you should probably kill yourself.
That's a sensible reason to end one's existence. God, you nerds are so melodramatic.
18663
« on: January 31, 2015, 07:00:32 PM »
TLOU is uninspired, poorly-realized trash for the casual generation.
That's just elitist bullshit, and you know it. You can dislike the game without trying to promote yourself as some enlightened game-quality guru.
18664
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:59:22 PM »
I like when people say the gameplay isn't unique so that's why they don't like it
Unless you're playing fucking octodad no games gameplay is unique
Literally my only complaint about the game is the fact that Ellie could fucking stitch up Joel when he was impaled.
My biggest complaint is what they showed at E3 vs. what we got. The AI shown prior to release was phenomenal, the one featured in the game reminds me of Hodor on LSD.
If the comment I read is right in the E3 video you get ammo by emptying the rounds from the gun instead of just picking it up. That would have been great for a survival based game.
Not only that, but the AI flanked you, hid from you, realised when your magazine was empty and charged you accordingly. Watch from 3:25 onward. Look how the enemy AI sneaks up on you. Just something to think about. Apparently, TLOU's AI was entirely scrapped a few months before release, but what are you gunna do.
18665
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:51:06 PM »
TLOU wasnt even in the top 10 best games the year it was released, which was a pretty weak year in the first place.
Name the top 10 best games of 2013.
Spoiler This is going to be interesting.
itd be presumptuous to make a top 10 list but here are 10 games that were better than TLOU from 2013:
hotline miami
bioshock infinite
guacamelee
far cry 3: blood dragon
dust: an elysian tail
animal crossing: new leaf
dota 2
shin megami tensei iv
payday 2
spelunky
and lets keep going, shall we?
diablo iii
arma iii
gta v
beyond: two souls
the wolf among us
pokemon x/y
ac: black flag
the stanley parable
TLOU is incredibly overrated. its nowhere near "all time" status.
Considering you have games like GTA V, Bioshock Infinite, and Payday 2 on your list, I think we're going to fundamentally disagree here. We clearly have different taste and standards for video games.
18666
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:46:27 PM »
I'm sure you'll figure it out.
I typically watch videos on one and browse forums on the other.
18667
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:45:47 PM »
The raid is the only thing to "love" about the game.
Yes, "raid". Singular. As in, Crota's End is a fucking chore to complete.
18668
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:40:56 PM »
I like when people say the gameplay isn't unique so that's why they don't like it
Unless you're playing fucking octodad no games gameplay is unique
Literally my only complaint about the game is the fact that Ellie could fucking stitch up Joel when he was impaled.
My biggest complaint is what they showed at E3 vs. what we got. The AI shown prior to release was phenomenal, the one featured in the game reminds me of Hodor on LSD.
18669
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:39:45 PM »
KOTOR 2
Never played it, actually. I didn't get into Star Wars until 3 or 4 years ago, and by then I just figured the game would be too dated for me to enjoy.
18670
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:38:48 PM »
TLOU wasnt even in the top 10 best games the year it was released, which was a pretty weak year in the first place.
Name the top 10 best games of 2013. Spoiler This is going to be interesting.
18671
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:37:50 PM »
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.
As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.
I don't buy a game for good voice acting
The acting is mocap.
and I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.
And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.
When all you have to offer is average gameplay then it's not worth $60 unless you personally are really into whatever the setting or genre is. I can take a quick look on steam and see hundreds of games that likely have nothing more to offer than fairly average gameplay. My interest in them is nonexistent though because I need something more than that if I'm going to be paying for it.
Spoiler I didn't even see refinement in TLOU, it was just more of the same for me personally.
Really? What about real-time crafting, or the non-traditional cover system? These have been done before but in regards to the crafting, the game creates such an intense, tension-filled environment (for the most part) that you have to essentially gamble to see if you can craft that last molotov in time.
The cover system is hit or miss for me. MGSV has it too and it works better because of the game's nature and the lean feature.
But nonetheless, TLOU's cover system still fits within the game's apparent need to differentiate itself from other TPS, mostly Uncharted.
Like I said, it just didn't really do anything for me. I can see why people might like it, I can understand that they had moments that they really enjoyed, but for me there was nothing really there.
I'm currently having this same problem with Dragon Age: Origins. Everyone was saying how good it was and how I needed to play it, I'm about 30 hours in and I haven't really had it click yet.
I suppose that's fair. I don't really see where we could go from here, so I'll thank you for giving me the time of day.
18672
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:36:48 PM »
I really want to watch what Kojima has to say Why? It'll probably just be some more hats or something.
Don't even get me started, Lemon. It turns out it was an announcement of China getting release version of TPP.
18673
« on: January 31, 2015, 06:35:44 PM »
Oh wait. Now I get it.
Fuck. Just release TPP, don't worry about Rising 2. Don't think anyone wants that anyways.
I just want the Soundtrack.
For TPP or Rising 2? And having the last 12 hours to think it over, I would actually love to see a Rising 2 with the Fox engine, like KojiPro initially wanted to do. Maybe something in between MGS2 and 4, or even following Gray Fox after he becomes the Cyborg Ninja.
18674
« on: January 31, 2015, 02:24:04 AM »
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.
As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.
I don't buy a game for good voice acting
The acting is mocap.
and I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.
And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.
When all you have to offer is average gameplay then it's not worth $60 unless you personally are really into whatever the setting or genre is. I can take a quick look on steam and see hundreds of games that likely have nothing more to offer than fairly average gameplay. My interest in them is nonexistent though because I need something more than that if I'm going to be paying for it.
Spoiler I didn't even see refinement in TLOU, it was just more of the same for me personally.
Really? What about real-time crafting, or the non-traditional cover system? These have been done before but in regards to the crafting, the game creates such an intense, tension-filled environment (for the most part) that you have to essentially gamble to see if you can craft that last molotov in time. The cover system is hit or miss for me. MGSV has it too and it works better because of the game's nature and the lean feature. But nonetheless, TLOU's cover system still fits within the game's apparent need to differentiate itself from other TPS, mostly Uncharted.
18675
« on: January 31, 2015, 02:08:53 AM »
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film.
As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.
I don't buy a game for good voice acting
The acting is mocap. and I don't buy a game for average gameplay that doesn't really do anything different.
And that's your prerogative as a consumer. But most games we play today are just evolving what's been done before, and in that respect, TLOU refines what has been done before.
18676
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:43:20 AM »
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
The story isn't anything special and the gameplay is fairly average. If the majority of your experience with narrative is from games I can see how you might think that TLOU is amazing though since video game writing is typically pretty shitty.
It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor.
I agree with you on the "video game writing is typically pretty shitty." I don't even know why you would bring that up, though, as I didn't say anywhere in my post that TLOU's best quality is the narrative. The acting is superb, however. By both video game standards and film. As for the gameplay, the mechanics are fairly average, not the gameplay itself. Two different things. It seems you're drinking the kool-aid though so that's likely why people aren't bothering to debate with you. They're almost certain that it will be a fruitless endeavor. It's a mix of this, no one being online/on Gaming, and people agreeing with me.
18677
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:29:05 AM »
Your opinion makes me want to vomit.
Good thing I don't give an Alaskan rat's ass about your opinion. I've said it before and I'll say it again, bring something of value to the conversation or leave. It's that simple.
18678
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:07:43 AM »
If you've only played 10 games in your entire life, sure, it might be in the top 9
If you've no intention to debate, why post?
Literally no one has stayed on topic in this thread (except maybe Goji, but he hasn't responded to me).
Why would I argue with someone so wrong?
To educate me. This is the internet, right? Since when did you need a reason to argue?
18679
« on: January 31, 2015, 01:00:03 AM »
If you've only played 10 games in your entire life, sure, it might be in the top 9
If you've no intention to debate, why post? Literally no one has stayed on topic in this thread (except maybe Goji, but he hasn't responded to me).
18680
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:52:10 AM »
speaking of billion and galaxy
did anybody see that one picture of the Andromeda galaxy?
i was just on imgur and there was this one post that says like that this picture has a billion pixels... kinda cool. it's really breathtaking, you should check it out^
Woah, that's cool.
18681
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:50:47 AM »
It looks really boring
I can assure you that I do not think it is boring.
18682
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:33:49 AM »
I would need a crush first, mate. It's not for a lack of testicles I don't have someone in my life to love.
18683
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:32:20 AM »
You mean brick throwing simulator?
No, I do not mean "brick throwing simulator".
18684
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:29:04 AM »
TLOU is definitely one of my favorite games of all time.
IKR It's in my top 10 for sure.
18685
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:27:57 AM »
Why does GwG have to suck so bad on the Xbone
It sucks on the PS4 as well, just not as much. DW, around this time next year we'll start getting better games for X1.
18686
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:25:10 AM »
Oh wait. Now I get it.
Fuck. Just release TPP, don't worry about Rising 2. Don't think anyone wants that anyways.
18687
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:24:00 AM »
Ladder sim lol I'm soooo clever because the game has 3 ladders in it
If I did a review of this game, I would title it: "Snakes and Ladders"
18688
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:23:06 AM »
I watched TLOU and I didn't feel like I missed anything. The story wasn't some kind of game changing meta medium feat like everyone proclaimed it to be [though it's obviously solid]. Almost every single one of the above games made me immediately want to get out and personally play them before I actually acquired them, through a trailer or a unique gameplay element or a distinctive atmosphere.
I can understand why people think it's a great game, but I can't ever see myself saying "yeah, this is on the level of DX" or something.
But see, that's the thing. While the story is superb, it's not the game's strong point, IMO. When sceptics play this game, they typically go play on the lowest or lower difficulties, as to easily get through the game and experience this "masterpiece" everyone talks about. But you simply cannot experience the full effect of what this game makes you feel while playing on these difficulties. It's simply too easy. I'll admit, the first time I play TLOU, I thought more or less the same as you (I think I might've been a bit more harsh). But I wanted to get the platinum trophy, so I set the game's difficulty to Grounded (it's hardest mode). And the experience just changes. Suddenly, death is a very real possibility, and managing your supplies is no easy feat. Do I use my last round to finish off this clicker, whilst quickly sprinting to the crowbar on the floor back there and pummeling the other two runners? Do I test my luck with arrows to see if they break? I never once upgraded Joel on my first playthrough, but it's an absolute necessity to do so on the harder modes. And to do that, you need upgrade materials. To get those, you must explore your surroundings. And while exploring said surroundings, you get to interact with the game's heart and soul: Ellie. You'll come across a movie poster, that Joel went to see with his daughter, and Ellie will have no idea what the hell it is. Or she'll make a comment on how skinny a model looks in an ad on the streets. Y'know, it's not often a game makes me feel truly immersed in their game. But by the time I had finished playing TLOU (I think I almost put 60 hours in), I thought I had found all the little hidden dialogues in the game. NOPE. I was shooting some birds one day, and Ellie struck up a conversation that I had never heard or seen on the internet or anything. It was amazing. I had to assume that Ellie was a living breathing character, because no game had ever done that to me before. So to summarise, it's not the story, or the way it's told. It's the sandbox of a game that ND puts us in and says "knock yourself out" that makes people love this game, I think. Of course, feel free to disagree or call me out. I don't mind. [I looked over this and saw many spelling errors but i'm too tired to fix them. hopefully you get the jist of what I'm saying.]
18689
« on: January 31, 2015, 12:00:59 AM »
...what is?
Seriously. Looking to understand some people's logic, here.
18690
« on: January 30, 2015, 11:49:59 PM »
@Snake
tl;dr
Only loved two women in my life, one of them moved away from me five years ago, haven't seen her since. Haven't loved another woman since.
Except for the one I fell in love with last year, who after 4 months of flirting, told me she was going back home for Christmas to be with her Girlfriend.
I had bought her a Clone trooper lamp as a gift, but gave it to myself instead.
Sorry to hear it, buddy
Me too.
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