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1981
The Flood / Your top characters
« on: January 21, 2015, 04:22:13 AM »
rank your top whatever

1.) Michael Scott (The Office)
2.) Agent Dale Cooper (Twin Peaks)
3.) Walter White (Breaking Bad)
4.) Azula (Avatar: TLA)
5.) Jack Donaghy (30 Rock)
6.) Stewie Griffin (Family Guy)
7.) Hans Landa (Inglorious Basterds)
8.) Britta Perry (Community)
9.) Brian Griffin (Family Guy)
10.) Jeff Winger (Community)
11.) Iroh (Avatar: TLA)
12.) Audrey Horne (Twin Peaks)
13.) Benny (Fallout: New Vegas)
14.) Holden Caulfield (The Catcher in the Rye)
15.) Marshall Eriksen (How I Met Your Mother)
16.) Axel (Kingdom Hearts 2)
17.) Ladd Russo (Baccano!)
18.) Jake Gittes (Chinatown)
19.) Colonel Cassandra Moore (Fallout: New Vegas)
20.) The Ice King (Adventure Time)

1982
The Flood / Friends is a drama, not a comedy
« on: January 21, 2015, 01:25:28 AM »
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The laugh track just disguises it. Ross has serious mental issues.

1983
The Flood / If I stopped coming here
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:42:20 PM »
How many hours would you cry for?

1984
The Flood / Best theme songs of all time
« on: January 20, 2015, 11:06:39 PM »
Post your favorite TV show intros.

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YouTube


YouTube

1985
The Flood / You're handed $200
« on: January 20, 2015, 07:13:18 PM »
The only catch is you have to spend it on food.

You can include as many people as you want, but any food not eaten or money not spent that night is taken back.

Where do you go?

1986
The Flood / Sgt Flood has joined!
« on: January 20, 2015, 06:49:25 PM »
OMG

Much excite

1987
The Flood / That feel when assholes ruin a beloved character for you
« on: January 20, 2015, 03:11:51 AM »
Hopefully it'll be back to normal in a few days and I can change my avatar. Until then, Cooper is an excellent substitute.

1988
The Flood / What are you still doing up?
« on: January 20, 2015, 02:52:26 AM »
T4R

1989
The Flood / live footage of Nuka getting wrecked
« on: January 19, 2015, 04:19:26 AM »


ITT: post live footage

1990
Gaming / Games you own
« on: January 19, 2015, 01:29:12 AM »
Give a list of games that are currently in your possession.

• Fallout: New Vegas
• Call of Duty: WaW
• Skyrim
• Sleeping Dogs
• Red Dead Redemption
• Kingdom Hearts 1.5 Remix
• Kingdom Hearts 2.5 Remix
• Jak and Daxter Collection
• Madden 25
• Pokemon: Omega Ruby

1991
The Flood / Someone fix my avatar (resolved)
« on: January 19, 2015, 12:09:21 AM »
Heil Solonoid

1992
News / Vintage Review -- Avatar: The Last Airbender
« on: January 17, 2015, 05:26:31 AM »


Avatar: The Last Airbender is a Nickelodeon series that was extremely popular when it first aired. Its characters, setting, and plot were all facets that kept the viewership large throughout all three seasons. While the show definitely had a high overall quality, it wasn't without its flaws. Review contains many spoilers.

Review
Book One: Water
The first season of Avatar was the show at its most basic and childish. It's evident even from the pilot, The Boy In The Iceberg, what the tone of the season would be: funny and kid-friendly, with the occassional dose of drama. That's not to say that season 1 didn't have incredibly dramatic moments - the scene in which Aang finds the rotted corpse of his old beloved mentor is particularly hard to watch - but they're relatively few and far between.

One of the weaker parts of season 1 is an overall lack of tension, with a borderline comically brooding Zuko and his silly uncle being the main antagonists. Admiral Zhao becomes a regular enemy in the later part of the season, but even he doesn't pose much of a serious threat. These "easier" conflicts are appropriate for the scope of the show, however - Aang's journey is new, and he's not even remotely trained in how to actually fight other people.

This general lack of drama and tension allows the first season to be filled to the brim with humor. While some of the jokes are child-oriented, many more are obviously written with adults in mind. Most of the humor in this season, and the show in general, is character based. There are no real "jokes", just humorous interactions between likeable characters. One thing that season 1 excels in is character establishment. By the second episode, you already completely know the personality of each character. The rest of the season expands on those personalities, which makes finding out more about the characters a major draw.

Overall, Book One is enjoyable and fun to watch, but has nowhere near the long-term appeal and intensity of the other two seasons. 7/10
Book Two: Earth
Just like the previous season's pilot, even from watching the first episode of Book Two, the tone of the season can easily be discerned. Aang has mastered waterbending. Zuko and Iroh (the latter of whom is now more wise than goofy) are officially traitors. A new character is introduced. Things are changing. Moreso than that, it's darker. Zuko's sister is a scary character, from her first scene where she threatens to murder someone to the reveal that she'd been tricking Zuko the whole episode. It's obvious solely from the introduction of her character that the stakes have changed. And the Earth Kingdom general Aang meets in the episode isn't a good guy, even though he's on the "good side". While Book 1 had a few instances of this greyness, it's nothing compared to the lengths Book 2 goes to blur the morality line. From the first episode of the season alone, one can tell that it's the introduction to a more mature, gripping season.

The main change in Book 2 is the tension. No longer is Aang's main threat an angsty Team Rocket-esque villain, it's a cold and calculated machine built for destroying him. Every encounter Aang and the gang has with Azula throughout the season has them either barely escaping or barely getting the better of her. There's never a decisive victory against her, unlike when Zuko was the main antagonist. This makes the heroes look increasingly powerless against the Fire Nation. In the thick of season 2, the oppressive military regime seems more impossible to beat than ever. The fact that half of the season is spent with Aang's beloved flying bison Appa kidnapped only adds to its intensity.

While the tone of the second season may be different from the first, the overall goals of the characters remain the same. "Master this type of bending, get to location X". Soon after Aang meets his blind earthbending teacher Toph, the gang learns they must rush to Ba Sing Se in order to tell the Earth King news about a solar eclipse. Toph is, of course, a classic addition to the show. Her character lent a much needed new sense of humor to it, injecting a much more sardonic and ironic blend of comedy. Moreso than that, her character is a very interesting one, from her upbringing to how she uses her disability as an advantage.

As previously mentioned, the moral ambiguity is abound in season 2. When the gang finally reaches Ba Sing Se, the last stronghold of resistance against the Fire Nation, they find that the government of the city itself is corrupted. In the latter half of the season, Aang has to fight enemies on both sides of Ba Sing Se's walls, which adds to the realism and intrigue of the show.

But the best part about Book 2 is easily the massive development that Zuko's character gets. While he was nothing much more than a sympathizable comic foil to Aang in Book 1, Book 2 marks the start of his long-winded redemption arc. His interactions with Iroh are powerful. While sometimes sad and sometimes uplifting, the conversations the two characters have together in this season are some of the best dialogue pieces in modern television. Zuko doesn't know where his path leads after leaving the Fire Nation, but Iroh does - but he also knows that Zuko has to get there by himself.

By the time the book is over, however, the Earth Kingdom has fallen, Aang dies and comes back, and Zuko has betrayed his unconditionally-loving uncle in exchange for a seat of power between a genocidal father and a psychopathic sister. A low end for a dark season.

Book Two is when Avatar stopped becoming a high-quality kids show and starting becoming a high-quality adults show. The episodes produced in this season are almost all instant classics. The conflicts and questions that the characters face are immensely interesting. The fights are better, the dialogue is better, and the plot is better. 10/10.
Book Three: Fire
An essential part of any good story is a memorable ending. The third season of Avatar brought with it even more changes to long-standing tenets of the show. Sokka and Katara see their father. Ozai's face is shown, and he has many speaking parts. Zuko is officially on Aang's side. That last one is the big one, and it's a complete 180 degree turn from episode one. But it all happens in such a natural and flowing way that it's not jarring. Zuko betrayed his uncle at the end of season 2, slicing off completely any further mentorship Iroh could give him. Even after two seasons had passed, Zuko still feels that he needs his father to restore who he was. But only after being accepted by his father, by his country, does he realize that his entire mission was for nothing. His entire life - one where he was conditioned to fervently follow the Fire Lord, one where the Avatar is the world's greatest enemy - is a lie. Season 2 was about Iroh helping his nephew find the path to light, and Season 3 is about Zuko finding that light for himself, the way it had to happen. When Zuko, the most dynamic character of the show, confronts his father at the midpoint of the season, his journey is over. He's finally who he needs to be, and he knows it. The angst is gone, the anger has subsided. One of Zuko's most enduring character traits has always been his refusal to give in, his determination to fulfill whatever mission he assigns himself. And now, that mission is to overthrow his father. It's such a fantastic moment, one that you know the entire series has been building toward as you watch it.

As for the main plot, there are quite a few episodes in this season that exist solely for filler. "The Painted Lady" is the most heinous example, but there are still a lot more. This is made up for, though, with the supply of fantastic episodes for season 3. "The Boiling Rock" two-parter is one of the best hours of television ever made, perfectly emulating a prison escape movie while retaining the classic Avatar style. In addition, the episode marks another significant change in the series with Mai and Ty Lee's betrayal of Azula. The loss of her only two friends, the only people who saw her as anything more than a cog, is what would spark Azula's mental decay. It's this inner struggle that brings the perfectionist down to the gang's level.

The four-part finale of the show has some amazing moments, including Zuko's reunion with his uncle in the "The Old Masters". Even though Zuko knows that he's changed, and that he's how his uncle would want him to be, he still cannot forgive himself for betraying Iroh in the first place. When he submits himself to his old mentor, he believes that he'll be chastised, scorned. But Iroh doesn't give a second's hesitation to embrace his nephew and tell him "I was never angry, just sad, because I thought you'd lost your way." It's an extremely emotional moment, one that confirms everything we know and love about Iroh and his relationship with Zuko. The best part of the third season is how elegantly Zuko's story is concluded.

My favorite thing about the finale, however, is the fact that Aang's main dilemma isn't in defeating the Fire Lord, it's in what to do afterward. The show reminds us that Aang is a child, and a peaceful monk at that. He's never taken a life. He tells himself that he never will have to. His people taught him that every life is sacred, from the lowest insect to the most monstrous criminal. Aang consults his past life, Avatar Yangchen, for guidance about this, and the most adult and sophisticated conversation I've ever heard on a children's show begins. She tells Aang that while every life is sacred and that the monks taught him well, this isn't about him. It's about the world. Ozai is the leader of a genocidal regime that's thrown the land out of balance for the past 100 years, and as Avatar, Aang has a duty to forsake his own personal morals and stop him. He has a duty to protect the world, not to protect his values. It's an incredibly thought-provoking scene, and it reassures us that the creators of the show take their own fiction seriously.

And if the show was even rated TV-14, it definitely would have ended with Aang, in an ultimate act of sacrifice, killing both the Fire Lord and the childish innocence he's known for. Ultimately, however, the series is resolved with a passable deus ex machina in the form of energybending, or the ability to take bending away. This simply illegitimatizes the moral problem the entire season had been building up to, and while a terrible way to end Aang's conflict over killing another human being, it was an okay way to end the conflict with the Fire Nation in general. A much better handled ending is Zuko and Katara's defeat of Azula. Azula's mental breakdown was more of her enemy than Zuko and Katara, who she would've had no problem beating if she had her season 2 level of sanity. Even though she had been looking outward for threats her whole life, Azula's fall came from within.

By the end of the finale, Aang and Katara are together, the bad guy is indisputably beaten, and all the sympathizable characters have gotten their own personal victories. It's not a bad way to end a kids show, but judging it on a fair scale, I find it a bit too clean. I wouldn't have minded if the creators had the boldness to kill off a character in a similar way they did with Jet, but I can't complain too much. The last shots of season 3 are reminiscent of the tone and style of the first season, which is appropriate. And while I didn't find the ending of Book 3 all that excellent, the rest of the season was usually great, with a few missteps. I loved seeing more of Fire Nation internal culture, and Zuko's arc is concluded in a fantastic way. It was a 8.5/10 season.

Music
The music production studio "The Track Team" created a truly mesmerizing soundtrack for the series. The instruments and sounds used are simple, which reflects the ancient east Asian influence of the show.

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My personal favorite song, "Safe Return" was usually played at the end of season 1 episodes, when Appa would fly off into the night. It's soft and melodic, but most of all, hauntingly soothing. When I think of Avatar, I think of this song.

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"The Final Blow" is another classic track that served as the general "victory" theme, playing when Aang would overcome whatever obstacle he was facing that episode. It's a song that gets you really pumped up and into the action, and is pretty iconic as the "theme" of the show.

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"Azula's Theme" is one of the hallmarks of her character. It's played in nearly all of the scenes where she's the subject, but it fits her too well to warrant any other background track. It's surreal and mysterious, but threatening and foreboding at the same time.

Voice acting
Avatar has some fantastic voice acting. Dante Basco's voice is so distinctively Zuko's that he has trouble getting other VA work. He completely sells the character, though, and allows Zuko's angst and brooding to come off as natural. Despite all of the great writing that went into Zuko, his character wouldn't be as memorable without Basco.

Similarly, Jack DeSena makes a lasting impression as Sokka's VA. He puts enough passion and energy into his line readings to really make Sokka come alive. More importantly, DeSena is a master of joke delivery. He nails the inflection and timing of all of Sokka's hilarious lines. Jessie Flower does this perhaps even better, though, as Toph. The earthbending prodigy's voice is nearly as distinctive as Zuko's, and Flower does a kickass job with Toph's sarcastic sense of humor.

And lastly, Grey Delisle does out of the park work with her character, as always. I don't know if I would like Azula nearly as much without Delisle's cool, crisp, and elegant delivery. She sells the character of a 14 year old murderous sociopath more than the excellent writing.

Zuko Alone episode review

1993
The Flood / That feel when you can't see any of Dustin's posts
« on: January 16, 2015, 07:47:36 PM »

1994
The Flood / Lol, I'm an idiot
« on: January 16, 2015, 05:41:04 AM »
It's the default avatar. I didn't know it had been changed, I thought it was still the Sep7agon logo.

Original text
"Papa John" and all his alts used the same avatar in their threads: this one.


While browsing Sep7agon's ancient history, I found a certain user who used the same exact avatar. A coincidence? Maybe. A connection? Probably.

1995
http://sep7agon.net/index.php?topic=23733.0

And yes, this definitely deserved its own thread. I shouldn't have to be worried about losing sleep every time I come on here, and I especially shouldn't have to worry about harassment from a staff member, of all people. I've reported instances of this many times, but nothing gets done. Shock images and harassment are against the rules, but both are freely propagated by the the worst mod here.

At the very least, let me mute mods who go out of their way to fuck with other users.

1996
The Flood / Voice actors thread
« on: January 16, 2015, 01:50:46 AM »
Who are some of your favorites? Grey DeLisle is an amazing VA.


1997
The Flood / Just give in
« on: January 15, 2015, 11:01:37 PM »


and admit you'd totally try

1998
Gaming / Ratchet and Clank or Jak and Daxter?
« on: January 15, 2015, 03:25:21 PM »
Keep in mind that there's an objectively right answer.

1999

2000
The Flood / I'm bored. AMA.
« on: January 15, 2015, 12:58:09 AM »
My second one on this site, and third one in general. As always, I have to answer every question, and I have to answer every question 100% truthfully.

Fully expecting like 8 replies, lol, but I'm too bored to care.

2001
The Flood / Aren't shock images against the fucking rules?
« on: January 15, 2015, 12:19:53 AM »
Seriously, how is TOTD still unbanned? More importantly, how are blatant rule-breaking threads all over the front page without being locked?

2002
The Flood / To those trying to make a third Wiki...
« on: January 14, 2015, 10:48:03 PM »
Stop. It was fun while it lasted, but there's no in point writing a bunch of articles just for them to get deleted again. The official Wiki is actually pretty good now, so you should just go there if you want to write funny pages about members. The rules are much more lax than they were initially, too.

2003
The Flood / Britbongs
« on: January 14, 2015, 06:19:11 PM »
the scourge is real

Discuss the weird people that live on the other side of the ocean

2004
The Flood / Announcement about the Wiki
« on: January 14, 2015, 03:08:36 PM »
There are now a few rules. Nothing too bad, and I believe this will help out the site in the long run.

2005
The Flood / The unrestricted Sep7 Wiki -- anyone can make an article!
« on: January 13, 2015, 10:40:18 PM »
http://sep7.wikia.com/wiki/Sep7_Wiki

I know the other wiki is the "real" and "official" one, but use this one if you want to just mess around. Write an article about any user/group/event/etc.

It's ugly as hell right now, but I'm working on that.

2006
The Flood / There's a Sep7agon Wiki, apparently
« on: January 13, 2015, 10:23:52 PM »
http://wiki.sep7agon.net/index.php?title=Main_Page

It's actually pretty cool. We already have a lot of good articles, but get in here and make some even better ones!

2007
The Flood / >living south of the mason-dixon line
« on: January 12, 2015, 06:28:00 PM »
>not drinking amazing Fanta pop every day of your life
>not eating Koegel meat for every meal
>not seeing more than two feet of snow at a time
>never having heard of Vernor's
>never having been to a Perkins

keep crying, southfags

2008
Gaming / On Pokemon Emerald, why was my Mudkip purple?
« on: January 11, 2015, 07:39:01 PM »
I stated the game on my GBA and when I picked my first pokemon. I chose Mudkip but when I had to help the professor and fight of the Zigzagoon, my mudkip was purple. Was this a glitch ? I restarted the game and got a blue instead but I was just wondering if this has happened to anyone else ?

2009
The Flood / Worst thing you've done to an animal?
« on: January 10, 2015, 08:19:58 PM »
When I was 9, I accidantly spilled bleach all over the head of this annoying ferret my friend had.That was so shitty.

2010
The Flood / You know, Joan Rivers once tried to star in a porno
« on: January 10, 2015, 07:46:16 PM »
She wasn't allowed to because most of her body is under 18 years old

Spoiler
post edgy/timely inappropriate jokes

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