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Septagon / Re: Screamers should be against the rules, for real this time
« on: January 20, 2015, 12:17:03 AM »
It doesn't matter

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The Flood / Re: mfw I decided to watch a Charlie Brown episode
« on: January 20, 2015, 12:09:50 AM »
Only seen the specials

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The Flood / Re: QT girls feet thread? Websites with good feet pics?
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:46:20 PM »
You think I don't know about that "anne" link?

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The Flood / Re: oh hey guys you can't post Jeff the Killer anymore
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:36:19 PM »
You seem pretty upset.

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The Flood / Re: Which TV/Movie character are you the most like?
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:31:33 PM »
Secondly, I pretty much am Jenna Maroney:
Spoiler

You will NEVER be a woman.
Personality-wise, not gender. Obviously.

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The Flood / Re: Which TV/Movie character are you the most like?
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:28:03 PM »
First off, you're nothing like Jeff Winger.

Secondly, I pretty much am Jenna Maroney:
Spoiler


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The Flood / Re: Azula Appreciation Thread
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:24:12 PM »
just so you know we're all cracking up in the skype call
like, big time
Good for you?

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The Flood / Re: Azula Appreciation Thread
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:21:50 PM »


Time to die.

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YouTube

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The Flood / Re: I just dropped in
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:11:07 PM »
This user has been blacklisted from posting on the forums. Until the blacklist is lifted, all posts made by this user have been hidden.

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The Flood / Re: So what does anyone actually know about autism?
« on: January 19, 2015, 11:00:18 PM »
>still being this mad

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The Flood / Re: Why are all of you such pussies?
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:44:03 PM »
What the hell are you talking about?

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:37:36 PM »
You and I obviously have different views on the point of conversation. It's not about learning, it's about sharing your views. I've never had my beliefs swayed by an online argument, lol. If that's the whole reason you get involved in these, then you should just not respond to me in general.
Now THAT is an excellent idea.

I need a fucking drink.
If I'm the reason that Verb resorts to alcoholism, I'll die a happy man.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:37:00 PM »
Your point? You can say things you don't like about blacks without being a racist.
I'm just saying. That IS how a lot of racists talk. You've made yourself look very transphobic in this thread.
I probably am transphobic by this forum's standards, but I honestly couldn't care less.

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The Flood / Re: guYS I JUST REALIZED THAT EUROPE
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:34:59 PM »
OAK IS A TYPE OF TREE

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:33:35 PM »
If by "transphobic" you mean "find cross-dressing and post-op TGs repulsive", then yeah, I am. That has no bearing on this conversation, though.
It does, in the sense that it creates an impasse. Would you want to argue with a racist as to why racism is bad? I sure the fuck wouldn't. If you just came out and said that you were transphobic, that would make it a lot easier for some of us, anyway, to not waste our time with you. You understand? It's a matter of, "am I willing to spend my time arguing with this person".
Ad hominem.
No, he's pointing that there's a fundamental impasse in arguing with someone who feels like that of a subject. It's not an attack, it's saying that there is "no point in arguing with a racist" because a racist and a non-racist will never agree, so there's no point in having the discussion.
If all racism was was finding blacks nasty, and not actually hating them, could you honestly not argue with a racist about it? Like, I don't even have anything against TGs personally. Say one bad thing against them and this forum has a heart attack.
If the discussion was about if blacks were equal to whites, you could not have a good discussion of it. There's a prejudice in play, it doesn't matter what form it takes. Discussion is about learning, and if one side cannot teach the other something, then there's no point in doing it! If you are staunchly opposed, to the point of transphobia, then there's not a point in talking about it with you. That's not to call you a bad person or something, just that there is an impasse in discussing transgenderism.

I despise sweet tea. It's disgusting and I don't see how people drink it. I am not someone in which you'd want to talk about sweet tea/the south rising again with unless you wanted to argue in an endless stalemate until you gave up.
You and I obviously have different views on the point of conversation. It's not about learning, it's about sharing your views. I've never had my beliefs swayed by an online argument, lol. If that's the whole reason you get involved in these, then you should just not respond to me in general.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:30:46 PM »
If all racism was was finding blacks nasty, and not actually hating them,
Also, I'd just like to point out that a lot of racists will say shit like "I don't hate blacks, BUT..."
Your point? You can say things you don't like about blacks without being a racist.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:28:35 PM »
could you honestly not argue with a racist about it?
No... I couldn't. Not if changing your mind was the goal, anyway.
The goal of discussions isn't to change minds, it's to share your opinions.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:21:28 PM »
If by "transphobic" you mean "find cross-dressing and post-op TGs repulsive", then yeah, I am. That has no bearing on this conversation, though.
It does, in the sense that it creates an impasse. Would you want to argue with a racist as to why racism is bad? I sure the fuck wouldn't. If you just came out and said that you were transphobic, that would make it a lot easier for some of us, anyway, to not waste our time with you. You understand? It's a matter of, "am I willing to spend my time arguing with this person".
Ad hominem.
No, he's pointing that there's a fundamental impasse in arguing with someone who feels like that of a subject. It's not an attack, it's saying that there is "no point in arguing with a racist" because a racist and a non-racist will never agree, so there's no point in having the discussion.
If all racism was was finding blacks nasty, and not actually hating them, could you honestly not argue with a racist about it? Like, I don't even have anything against TGs personally. Say one bad thing against them and this forum has a heart attack.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:17:55 PM »
I'm not outright calling you transphobic, by the way-- just pointing out that, unless you genuinely are, you are unintentionally painting yourself in that light.
If by "transphobic" you mean "find cross-dressing and post-op TGs repulsive", then yeah, I am. That has no bearing on this conversation, though.
It does have bearing, because it shows how valid anything anything you say in this thread is. That's like asking a Nazi his opinion of Israel or the KKK their opinion of black people and using that as a serious argument.
I don't hate TGs like the KKK hates blacks or Nazis hate Israel, I just find what they do nasty. Sue me.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:16:34 PM »
If by "transphobic" you mean "find cross-dressing and post-op TGs repulsive", then yeah, I am. That has no bearing on this conversation, though.
It does, in the sense that it creates an impasse. Would you want to argue with a racist as to why racism is bad? I sure the fuck wouldn't. If you just came out and said that you were transphobic, that would make it a lot easier for some of us, anyway, to not waste our time with you. You understand? It's a matter of, "am I willing to spend my time arguing with this person".
Ad hominem.

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The Flood / Re: Holy shit I need some fucking water
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:15:09 PM »
Then get some fucking water.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:13:50 PM »
It's really obvious who does and does not understand transgenderism and related trans issues.

If you don't know what you're talking about, it's generally a good idea not to debate about it.
This isn't a debate, it's a discussion. Transgenders who embrace the disorder are sick. They have no place in a civilized society.
And how does someone being transgender negatively affect anybody else?


Something doesn't have to affect others to be sick or idiotic. Transgenders have a disorder, simple as that, and it should be treated, not embraced.
If it doesn't affect you in any way, why do you care? What possible purpose would it serve other than wasting society's time?


And why do I care? The main reason is that I'm a somewhat ethical person.
Either this is bait or you're really that deplorable. ._.

The rest of your argument completely contradicts that, though. If you were ethical, you really wouldn't care. It has nothing to do with you, does not affect you or anyone else in any way... it's completely unethical to punish something that's harmless and morally acceptable.
Letting a sick person believe he's not sick, and refusing to help him, is unethical.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:13:00 PM »
Your argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.
It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.
As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. Grown men pretending to be girls is, and also pretty creepy.

Do you know what's far more creepy? Being infatuated with a fictional cartoon character.
Liking and identifying with a character and changing your sex aren't comparable whatsoever.

Being trans isn't something that's detestable or concerning. Being in love with a fictional cartoon character is pathetic and laughable.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:11:16 PM »
I'm not outright calling you transphobic, by the way-- just pointing out that, unless you genuinely are, you are unintentionally painting yourself in that light.
If by "transphobic" you mean "find cross-dressing and post-op TGs repulsive", then yeah, I am. That has no bearing on this conversation, though.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:09:13 PM »
Your argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.
It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.
As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. Grown men pretending to be girls is, and also pretty creepy.
To you, that's the point being made. There is nothing wrong with two people of the same sex kissing, but there are people who find it to be creepy and disgusting. It's homophobia, just as you claiming to vomit in disgust at the sight of a transperson would be transphobic. Know what I'm saying?
I know what you're saying, but it's illogical. Post op transgenders objectively look more disgusting than a simple kiss. That's not a phobia, that's an observation.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:07:37 PM »
Your argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.
It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.
As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. Grown men pretending to be girls is, and also pretty creepy.

Do you know what's far more creepy? Being infatuated with a fictional cartoon character.
Liking and identifying with a character and changing your sex aren't comparable whatsoever.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:06:08 PM »
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting.
To you.
To any rational person. Putting homosexuality and transgenderism on the same level is comparing apples to oranges.

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The Flood / Re: Discussion on Transgenderism
« on: January 19, 2015, 10:03:56 PM »
Your argument could have benefited without that addition, it really doesn't help put your stance in a positive or non-bigoted light of the subject.
It's important to note, as it does actually affect others.
As do homsexuals showing gestures of affection in public places. That's called homophobia. Are you admitting to being transphobic, or was that unintentional?
Two men kissing isn't inherently disgusting. Grown men pretending to be girls is, and also pretty creepy.

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