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18391
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:46:15 PM »
I'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.
Do you want to live in a mould-ridden wasteland with ridiculously expensive water and living solely off a paste grown in a lab? Didn't think so.
That's not a guaranteed outcome.
18392
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:45:00 PM »
is your hatrd for insects because you got bit by the grasshopper?
They're just disgusting. I don't really give a shit about crawling insects, though. They don't bother me. It's the ones that fly around that are truly repulsive. Moths, crickets, cicadas, butterflies, cockroaches, etc. Things like spiders and ants are fine.
18393
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:42:19 PM »
I'd take that risk. Insects are a remnant of the past, tbh. If they were suddenly eliminated, life would find a way.
18394
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:34:05 PM »
Nah
I'd rather meet Jan Michael Vincent than the pope tbh
Wouldn't you prefer Jan Quadrant Vincent 16?
No more than eight Jan Michael Vincents can be in a precinct so no thanks
18395
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:32:04 PM »
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Plants
Bacteria
Protists
Fungi
exactly, nothing like animals would be alive.
You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.
like digger said, they arent exposed to hazards like animals, they have no need to have pain receptors or anything we have. even plants respond to stimuli.
Holy shit, this is not even what you originally said, nor what I was responding to: class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
You didn't say "nothing that are exposed to hazards like animals would be alive if they couldnt feel pain", you said nothing.
18396
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:28:55 PM »
I really don't care tbh
but yeah, humans are more than capable of sustaining a self sustaining ecosystem on our own
18397
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:23:58 PM »
Nah
I'd rather meet Jan Michael Vincent than the pope tbh
18398
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:22:08 PM »
What did they teach you in school? My god, and you're the one who is the first to be critical of others.
Okay, you're clearly not grasping what I'm saying here. Ignore the context of this thread for a second. Just focus on what Naru said. "Nothing that is alive can't feel pain" That's an objectively wrong statement. I provided clear counterexamples, and all anyone can talk about is how I don't understand the ecosystem. Even though that has nothing to do with the point I was addressing.
Now, back to what we were actually taking about. Spoiler I don't care lol
not like I'm going to singlehandedly destroy every insect in the world
18399
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:18:53 PM »
Regardless, I know for a fact that executions aren't painless. They don't use Euthasol for executions, then.
18400
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:17:09 PM »
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Plants
Bacteria
Protists
Fungi
exactly, nothing like animals would be alive.
You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.
Christ, you know absolutely nothing about how ecosystems work, do you?
This has nothing to do with ecosystems. See if you can follow this very simple logic. "Nothing would be alive if it couldn't feel pain" "What about these things that are alive but can't feel pain" "Lol what are ecosystems" like what lol
18401
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:15:08 PM »
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Plants
Bacteria
Protists
Fungi
They are generally immobile organisms so they typically do not face the hazards that mobile organisms possess.
18402
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:14:45 PM »
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Plants
Bacteria
Protists
Fungi
exactly, nothing like animals would be alive.
You said nothing would be alive. Plants, bacteria, protists, and fungi are all alive.
18403
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:12:33 PM »
class, nothing would be alive if they couldnt feel pain.
Plants Bacteria Protists Fungi
18404
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:11:41 PM »
And no. Euthanasia is harmless. Lethal injections aren't.
You just confirmed you have no idea what you're talking about.
You just confirmed you have no fucking idea how people are actually executed. Euthanasia is expensive. The way that criminals are executed is simply introducing a paralytic and poison to the body. The poison is cheap and kills in 10 or so minutes, while the paralytic exists to stop the criminal from having convulsions. Seriously, do some research before you insinuate that all executions (especially animal executions) are done with a chemical as costly as euthanasia.
18405
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:09:33 PM »
You're wrong. Many plants solely rely on insects for pollination as other species do not pollinate nearly as much to sustain the species.
Believe me, no plant would die out if insects disappeared. Pollination would still continue in extremely limited forms, and the subspecies of the plant that adapted to non-insect pollination would eventually become the dominant form of the plant.
18406
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:07:56 PM »
Your attitude would quickly change if insects suddenly disappeared.
I'd be willing to let that happen. Seriously, people blow the whole insect necessity myth way out of proportion. Humans can pollinate. Low-tier mammals can eat things other than insects. We can breed animals and plants without them.
And you, you're completely disregarding just how critical insects are to life on Earth. I suggest you do some grade school-tier research on how food chains work before spouting nonsense like that.
I love how everyone just ignores my posts, lmao
We. Don't. Need. A. Food. Chain.
Without proper preparation to accommodate the disappearance of it the food industry wouldn't respond fast enough (because you're essentially creating an industry in a week's time) to not have people starving to death.
Sure inevitably things would stabilize, but that's not the point. The point is we couldn't sustain what we currently have without those things.
We're unsustainable as-is. But that's another whole issue.
18407
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:06:12 PM »
Your attitude would quickly change if insects suddenly disappeared.
I'd be willing to let that happen. Seriously, people blow the whole insect necessity myth way out of proportion. Humans can pollinate. Low-tier mammals can eat things other than insects. We can breed animals and plants without them.
And you, you're completely disregarding just how critical insects are to life on Earth. I suggest you do some grade school-tier research on how food chains work before spouting nonsense like that.
I love how everyone just ignores my posts, lmao
We. Don't. Need. A. Food. Chain.
It is somewhat possible to survive without the food chain, but quality of life would be greatly reduced. Most plants would die, we would rely on genetically engineering to grow crops, CO2 levels would increase drastically, people in developing countries would be completely fucked over, and so forth.
Even the disappearance of honeybees that is happening right now has severe implications for life on this planet.
Like I said, plants don't rely solely on insects for pollination. Trees don't either. Animals, wind currents, etc do a lot of the work there. And once a tree is already planted and growing, it doesn't need insects in any way. And lol, no. You don't NEED genetic engineering. Ever tried to grow an organic tomato crop? Did you need insects to do it?
18408
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:04:46 PM »
No, they paralyze them while introducing a poison to their body that kills them in 5-10 minutes. Just like how lethal injections in prisons are performed. That's called 'euthanasia'.
And I'm uninformed? You think that aspartame isn't harmful, for fucks sake.
As does the overwhelming majority of scientific research. In fact, there isn't a single peer-reviewed study that indicates anything but massive doses of aspartame are unhealthy, doses so high you'd die from water intoxication far before you could manage it.
If by "peer-reviewed" you mean "government-funded". And no. Euthanasia is harmless. Lethal injections aren't.
18409
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:03:46 PM »
Insects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.
I'm not biologist but most of them respond to bodily harm in ways similar to higher level animals, indicating they have some sense of desire not to experience something. "but thats instinctual behavior patterns!" So is your repulsion of insects. There's a reason this elicits a different response than this.
I couldn't care less if they can feel pain anyway, tbh
18410
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:01:57 PM »
the world's ecosystem would collapse without them.
This simply isn't true.
I don't think you understand what the food chain is.
Refer to my above post. Humans can pollinate and grow plants ourselves. We can breed and consume animals ourselves. We've superseded the need for a food chain when everything can be done artificially anyway.
Okay then, let's just wait till the bees don't buzz anymore and no more good and tasty organic honey is made.
Insects produce some things inherently, sure. Honey is a good example. But their main purpose is food for other animals, something that humans can synthesize anyway. And yeah, I'd be willing to give up honey if it meant no more bees.
18411
« on: September 23, 2015, 03:00:28 PM »
Your attitude would quickly change if insects suddenly disappeared.
I'd be willing to let that happen. Seriously, people blow the whole insect necessity myth way out of proportion. Humans can pollinate. Low-tier mammals can eat things other than insects. We can breed animals and plants without them.
And you, you're completely disregarding just how critical insects are to life on Earth. I suggest you do some grade school-tier research on how food chains work before spouting nonsense like that.
I love how everyone just ignores my posts, lmao We. Don't. Need. A. Food. Chain.
18412
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:59:44 PM »
Your attitude would quickly change if insects suddenly disappeared.
I'd be willing to let that happen. Seriously, people blow the whole insect necessity myth way out of proportion. Humans can pollinate. Low-tier mammals can eat things other than insects. We can breed animals and plants without them.
I hope this is some kind of joke or bait.
It's neither. Give me one reason against it. Like I told Korra, humans have passed the need for any kind of rung on the food chain.
18413
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:58:42 PM »
the world's ecosystem would collapse without them.
This simply isn't true.
I don't think you understand what the food chain is.
Refer to my above post. Humans can pollinate and grow plants ourselves. We can breed and consume animals ourselves. We've superseded the need for a food chain when everything can be done artificially anyway.
18414
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:57:12 PM »
Also, there is fluoride in tap water. This is an undisputed fact. So trying to attack my character by bringing that up is idiotic.
I'm bringing it up because you're notoriously uninformed on almost every social/political issue you talk about on here (see: "Laughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.")
I guess they just bludgeon them to death with the nearest baseball bat, eh?
No, they paralyze them while introducing a poison to their body that kills them in 5-10 minutes. Just like how lethal injections in prisons are performed. And I'm uninformed? You think that aspartame isn't harmful, for fucks sake.
18415
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:55:25 PM »
the world's ecosystem would collapse without them.
This simply isn't true.
18416
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:54:49 PM »
Your attitude would quickly change if insects suddenly disappeared.
I'd be willing to let that happen. Seriously, people blow the whole insect necessity myth way out of proportion. Humans can pollinate. Low-tier mammals can eat things other than insects. We can breed animals and plants without them.
18417
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:50:35 PM »
one thing i will always feel guilty for were all the craneflies i killed because i was terrified that they were mosquitos the size of my palm
they aren't mosquitos ;_; how could i accuse them of that
Who cares? They're still bugs. They're still disgusting.
I'm technically an adult, but I still go out of my way to kill insects when I see them.
That's pretty damn cruel.
Insects are literally scum. They can't feel pain, they can't even think. They don't deserve to even exist on this planet.
18418
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:49:35 PM »
Laughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.
They probably just give them some fluoridated tap water, huh?
This is Serious. Ease up on the shitposting.
I'm simply responding to your posts with the degree of respect you've earned in your time here.
Nice ad hominem Also, there is fluoride in tap water. This is an undisputed fact. So trying to attack my character by bringing that up is idiotic.
18419
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:47:08 PM »
Laughing my ass off if you legitimately believe animal shelters use euthanasia when killing their animals.
They probably just give them some fluoridated tap water, huh?
This is Serious. Ease up on the shitposting.
18420
« on: September 23, 2015, 02:46:14 PM »
one thing i will always feel guilty for were all the craneflies i killed because i was terrified that they were mosquitos the size of my palm
they aren't mosquitos ;_; how could i accuse them of that
Who cares? They're still bugs. They're still disgusting. I'm technically an adult, but I still go out of my way to kill insects when I see them.
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