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15031
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:59:16 PM »
"Evidence"
15032
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:56:03 PM »
btw, the thread title and body was a reference to this
15033
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:34:22 PM »
That's a pretty black and white way to see things. Oh come on. You either think people should be able to fuck/marry/smoke/snort/do whatever the hell they want to do with their lives without hurting other people, or you don't. You either support freedom of choice, or you don't.
I think the choice is too obvious, and I don't think we should label people who believe you shouldn't have those freedoms as "conservative" or "right wing," because it gives them a bad name, unduly.
Fair enough, but the freedom to do whatever you want to your own body is just one social issue. There are others that are much more grey and less obvious.
15034
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:31:29 PM »
Azula pics inbound.
You miscalculated
Spoiler Azula albums inbound
No...no...they fortold of this day! Cheat shut it down... the world isn't ready, it'll be chaos!
 It's too late.
15035
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:25:59 PM »
but your mindset in general is just conservative.
Not really sure what you mean. I'm naturally conservative?
The way you think. Just look at that other thread. Your whole notion of the strong and the weak, about power and drive being the most important, about competition being the defining trait of progression, etc. Those are all conservative concepts, and you base a lot of your other views around them.
15036
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:23:30 PM »
see, i don't really factor in social values, because to me, it's not a matter of whether you have "liberal" social values or "conservative" social values
it's "smart" social values or "stupid" social values
That's a pretty black and white way to see things.
15037
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:18:31 PM »
Libertarianism isn't a right-wing concept....I'm more or less a libertarian when it comes to social values.
15038
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:16:41 PM »
I'll pose the same question for left wingers - mostly cause I wanna see your list for that one.
I'm not very good at ranking people; there's an incredibly large asymmetry in information. I'll give it a go, though:
- Verbatim.
- Class.
- Cindy.
- Luciana.
- Challenger.
- You.
Those are the names of "left-wingers" which immediately comes to mind.
How is Challenger a liberal whatsoever? He's literally obsessed with "family values".
15039
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:15:39 PM »
Do we have more conservatives than liberals?
Um, duh. The vast majority of active users here are conservative.
I'd be interested to know where the boundaries of conservatism lie, for you, given your ideology.
How conservative am I? How about relative to Turkey and Mordo? Which of us is most conservative? Do my views on criminal justice, the War on Drugs and immigration count for nothing? How are you defining conservatism?
All questions I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on.
Turkey is probably the most conservative. He shills for literally every imaginable big corporation, the government, and harmful chemicals. He denies the dangers of aspartame, flouride, and GMOs completely and more or less encapsulates the conservative agenda. You're not as bad, but your mindset in general is just conservative. You have some moderate liberal values in some places, but they're overshadowed by your strong conservative values in other places. Thinking the war on drugs is retarded isn't really a big political issue - it's common sense.
15040
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:10:33 PM »
Do we have more conservatives than liberals?
Um, duh. The vast majority of active users here are conservative.
15041
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:09:41 PM »
Azula pics inbound.
You miscalculated Spoiler Azula albums inbound
15042
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:07:54 PM »
The past few homepage banners have looked really good.
15043
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:06:43 PM »
"Western values" are complete trash.
Right.
Competition, the rule of law, property rights, a consumer culture and the Protestant work ethic never did anything for anybody. . .
Rule of law is a western value? LMAO And yeah, those are all shit. They're all capitalist values.
15044
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:03:23 PM »
Midnight Christmas Eve (assuming CST) meaning two hours from now or 26 hours from now?
2 hours.
omg <3 ty cheat
15045
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:02:35 PM »
The only area I could be called seriously conservative is culturally
That's literally the worst area to be conservative in
I'm a shitlord for believing in the relative superiority of Western values?
"Western values" are complete trash.
15046
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:01:28 PM »
Midnight Christmas Eve (assuming CST) meaning two hours from now or 26 hours from now?
15047
« on: December 23, 2015, 10:00:07 PM »
weekend though
It's Christmas, this is a big holiday
cheat should just start it now and let it run until the end of the weekend tbh
It's like you read his mind.
sooo...
does this mean we're getting anarchy?
Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler probably not until midnight CST, if it happens
15048
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:59:13 PM »
Door ... a libertarian
Anarchists are not libertarians.
They're not conservatives, either. I just said he's more of a libertarian than a conservative.
15049
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:57:57 PM »
The only area I could be called seriously conservative is culturally
That's literally the worst area to be conservative in
15050
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:55:57 PM »
weekend though
It's Christmas, this is a big holiday
cheat should just start it now and let it run until the end of the weekend tbh
It's like you read his mind.
I tend to do that
15051
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:55:00 PM »
I'd put Meta, Mordo, and Turkey as the shit beliefs trifecta
Slash and Door aren't that bad, IMO. And I'd consider Door more of a libertarian than a conservative.
15052
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:46:37 PM »
weekend though
It's Christmas, this is a big holiday cheat should just start it now and let it run until the end of the weekend tbh
15053
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:44:22 PM »
I haven't called a single individual evil, so that point is idiotic. Organizations are evil. Politicians are usually just selfish and inept.
I also envy your ability to split hairs so finely.
This conversation obviously is going nowhere. I'll just say you're up there with Turkey in terms of shitty political views.
15054
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:43:34 PM »
15055
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:41:54 PM »
It fights tooth and nail against trade unions, which are arguably the last bastions of people who actually give a shit about workers and the poor.
It must be easy viewing the world through a black-and-white lens. In some ways, I envy your childlike conception of reality.
Okay?
15056
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:41:28 PM »
I honestly have no idea why I even discuss things with you in Serious
Same, all you do is suck the dick of our corporate masters and spout out the conservative rhetoric.
That must be why I call Bernie Sanders evil and think all liberals want to do is just undermine the glorious and faultless West. . .
Oh, wait, I'm not batshit insane like you.
Spoiler Not sure how pretty strongly liberal views on criminal justice, the War on Drugs and immigration fits into your paradigm of me being a conservative shill spouting rhetoric. . . But whatever man.
I haven't called a single individual evil, so that point is idiotic. Organizations are evil. Politicians are usually just selfish and inept.
15057
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:39:46 PM »
"You need to be a master of economics to see the blatantly evil shit that the government does on a daily basis"
No, I'm saying you need to have a minor grasp of the field to be able to call the WTO even inept or neutral. You need to have a pretty solid grasp of trade and institutional economics to be able to call them actively damaging (which, by the way is an opinion I hold of the World Bank based on the work of development economists). It's a whole other ballpark to call them actively evil.
It fights tooth and nail against trade unions, which are arguably the last bastions of people who actually give a shit about workers and the poor.
15058
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:37:11 PM »
I honestly have no idea why I even discuss things with you in Serious
Same, all you do is suck the dick of our corporate masters and spout out the conservative rhetoric.
15059
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:35:31 PM »
"You need to be a master of economics to see the blatantly evil shit that the government does on a daily basis"
15060
« on: December 23, 2015, 09:33:39 PM »
It's only because of people like you Yes, damn me, it's my fault not everybody loves each other. It's got absolutely nothing to do with the fact that we're basically no better than chimpanzees biologically. . .
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