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Gaming / Re: Red Dead Redemption 2
« on: November 15, 2018, 10:18:20 PM »
really good so far, love the characters + plot as well as gameplay

dutch is a noble hero

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Nobody cares fucking die already
would that I could Connor

would that I could

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The Flood / Re: Is it bad that I agree with this racist apologist?
« on: November 15, 2018, 01:02:53 PM »
tolerating intolerance leads to intolerance of tolerance
It's not tolerating it. There are many ways to combat racism/sexism/bigotry, and the best one is social ostracization or being unable to find a job because no one wants to associate with you. Going and inciting violence against them isn't only immoral, it makes them look like the oppressed victims and makes them dig in their heels more.

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The Flood / Re: Is it bad that I agree with this racist apologist?
« on: November 15, 2018, 12:46:26 PM »
Violence against ideas is authoritarian
could just be cathartic
A lot of it is probably very cathartic for people, but it's still essentially telling someone that they don't have a right to express their opinion without the threat of physical harm.

A society where that is acceptable is not free.
freedom is overrated
Where do we draw the line? Saying "violence in response to a thought is wrong" is a practical, enforceable ideal. With "violence is okay in response to dangerous thoughts", you need a government to dictate what dangerous thoughts entail. What if they decided antinatalistic views are dangerous? What if they decided they can monitor your posts on the Internet, and because privacy is useless if you're not doing anything wrong, you have no way to defend yourself from that?

I respect a lot of your views, but sometimes you come off as very reactionary, and this is one of those cases. You need to think out the long term consequences of these kinds of social vendettas against the wrong people.

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The Flood / Re: Is it bad that I agree with this racist apologist?
« on: November 15, 2018, 05:18:20 AM »
Also I'm not a centrist, the middle ground isn't always right

But I don't see advocating against violence of any kind against non-violent offenders to be the middle ground. It's just not as extreme as "kill everyone with a dangerous opinion"

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The Flood / Is it bad that I agree with this racist apologist?
« on: November 15, 2018, 05:05:45 AM »


violence isnt the answer to any ideology

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 14, 2018, 09:27:44 AM »
Why's that?
the idea of living 50+ years in this fucked up world with this fucked up body is disgusting, and that's even with my youth, imagine being 40 something

Imagine getting to 4O and realizing you still haven’t found or created what you need to feel alright even after the long long years of searching and stumbling only to find out you were right when you thought you would be better dead at 18
that's a given lol

hence why I fill my life with as many miracles and mistakes I can manage, better to have some good experiences than scrimping and saving your health for a life you don't want

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 07:04:25 PM »
Why's that?
the idea of living 50+ years in this fucked up world with this fucked up body is disgusting, and that's even with my youth, imagine being 40 something

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 04:42:28 PM »
why is it not a good idea to wait until you have money to buy something
Of course it's a good idea to wait until you're able to afford something, but whether or not you should actually buy it as soon as you're able to depends a lot on what it is and how much money you have. It tends to be a pretty good idea to build up a reserve and have money on hand for whatever might come your way as to invest, get interest, build credit, put it towards big long term projects like property, and to avoid having to go in debt, defaulting payments, hurting your credit score or just screwing yourself in any way. It's perfectly fine to wait and save up for big(ger) purchases, but if you can't afford to just go out and drop as small of an amount as $60 on something you want, then chances are you're probably not in a situation where you should do just that the moment you've got some cash again.
i mean, i guess you're not wrong, in the sense that we could all be more generally responsible with our money, but i just think there's a time and place to be dropping wisdom like that

either way, i wouldn't describe $60 as a small amount when we're talking about video games, especially to someone who probably doesn't even consider them to be anything more than meaningless entertainment
Fair enough, but I don't think this is a bad time to mention it. In his own words, this is Class his first "real" job and he clearly doesn't have it all sorted yet. He can say he doesn't care about financial stability but he's setting himself up for failure big time that way.

And $60 is a reasonably small amount of money by most general standards. In terms of video games it's of course not that little as it's the full price of a brand new game, but I'd stay it's still well within the range of what you ideally should be able to spend on luxury / entertainment at a given time. If you don't have that amount of discretionary spending available between paychecks, then you might want to budget things a bit differently or spend that money elsewhere.
im dying in the next five years lol why should I care about my credit

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 04:08:13 PM »
i won't even buy a meal's worth of food if it's over $10, so i'd have to be crazy to drop $60 on a game without thinking about it first
believe me I've thought about this

I feel guilty when I spend money lol

No you’re definitely a worthless piece of shit but that doesn’t magically make you a child. You’re an adult.
okay I retract my child claim

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 03:47:42 PM »
How are you not an adult you fucking dipshit you’re over 21
im an adult in age, but if you think you can look at my life and call me a successful adult you're wack

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 03:33:39 PM »
why is it not a good idea to wait until you have money to buy something
Of course it's a good idea to wait until you're able to afford something, but whether or not you should actually buy it as soon as you're able to depends a lot on what it is and how much money you have. It tends to be a pretty good idea to build up a reserve and have money on hand for whatever might come your way as to invest, get interest, build credit, put it towards big long term projects like property, and to avoid having to go in debt, defaulting payments, hurting your credit score or just screwing yourself in any way. It's perfectly fine to wait and save up for big(ger) purchases, but if you can't afford to just go out and drop as small of an amount as $60 on something you want, then chances are you're probably not in a situation where you should do just that the moment you've got some cash again.
LOL look at this dude

my credit is probably terrible, I constantly get bills for student loans/medical stuff and just ignore them

when I have money it's rare, I've spent 90% of my life with no money - why do I need money on hand to buy RDR2 lol? You have an actual job, I live with my mom and have been working at Burger King and shit, this hotel job I have is my first real job. I'm not an adult, I don't even drive, and yeah when I get money first thing I do is pay my mom and buy myself something nice

Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
Huh?

I don't get it, how else would I pay for a game? You kinda need money to buy things lol?
It's not that you have to pay for it, it's that you have to wait before you're able to pay for it. Unless that's not the case and I'm reading too much into it, but saying pointing out that you'll be waiting on your paycheck before buying a game you could otherwise just get right now does give that impression. You do you of course, but it seems a bit strange from a personal finance perspective.
Really confused about this. I have $0 right now because I already spent my last paycheck on bills/rent/fun/games, and when I get my next paycheck I'll likewise spend it on bills/rent/fun/games. I don't always have money on hand lol, do you?
Well yeah, I do. That's kind of what financial stability means.
Whoever said I have financial stability? That has never been a thing I've had or am pursuing

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:24:13 PM »
ugh I worked at waffle house and everything


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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:23:28 PM »
wow am I popular on here again

can I start making threads about how these hashbrowns ended up too oily??

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:05:10 PM »
Like obviously I get where Flee is coming from. He's saying that if you've had the job for a while and you can't just buy the game now then it means you've got nothing in your bank account and if that's the case you need to focus on saving money rather than buying a video juega
I guess so, but if I had spare money I'd just buy more expensive drugs / take an uber home one day instead of the bus
Dude trust me, save at least 50 dollars if you wanna live recklessly. Don't save money to live in luxury, just do it for rainy days
I just spent my weekend with $0 and so wish I took this advice

I can get drunk for like $6 at the very least

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:04:30 PM »
Hey class, I thought this was your first paycheck. Is it gonna be your second one?
yeah, I've been working here like a month and a week now, it's such an awesome job and I get paid more than I did at BK and have to do like 1/10 of the work

first paycheck I bought a PS4 and wasted it on ubers/lyfts (when the bus is only $1) and I won't be making that mistake again
okay so bills and all that shouldn't be more than like 600 dollars for a month. How tf are you not saving at least 200 dollars each month?
PS4 with Just Cause 3 was like $320

I took maybe five ubers, that's $100

Rent for my mom, $200

Miscellaneous food + drugs is like $100

and I bought my little brother soccer gear

As I said, the PS4 is bought and I'm probably just buying one PS4 game with this paycheck (choosing between these two), and I'm not going to use uber, so I'll probs have a lot more spending money this time

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:02:34 PM »
Like obviously I get where Flee is coming from. He's saying that if you've had the job for a while and you can't just buy the game now then it means you've got nothing in your bank account and if that's the case you need to focus on saving money rather than buying a video juega
I guess so, but if I had spare money I'd just buy more expensive drugs / take an uber home one day instead of the bus

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:01:49 PM »
RDR2 is good but overrated and 76 is a hot steaming pile of trash.

Just being honest. Obviously get RD2 but don't expect it to be the second coming of Christ like everyone is making it out to be.

Personally I would wait until RD online comes out or it drops in price a bit.
dude it has alligators

I fully expect this game to invigorate my life and be my replacement for doing drugs and if it doesn't deliver on that, I'll just have to do drugs while playing

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 02:00:17 PM »
Hey class, I thought this was your first paycheck. Is it gonna be your second one?
yeah, I've been working here like a month and a week now, it's such an awesome job and I get paid more than I did at BK and have to do like 1/10 of the work

first paycheck I bought a PS4 and wasted it on ubers/lyfts (when the bus is only $1) and I won't be making that mistake again

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:59:07 PM »

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:58:16 PM »
Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
Huh?

I don't get it, how else would I pay for a game? You kinda need money to buy things lol?
It's not that you have to pay for it, it's that you have to wait before you're able to pay for it. Unless that's not the case and I'm reading too much into it, but saying pointing out that you'll be waiting on your paycheck before buying a game you could otherwise just get right now does give that impression. You do you of course, but it seems a bit strange from a personal finance perspective.
Really confused about this. I have $0 right now because I already spent my last paycheck on bills/rent/fun/games, and when I get my next paycheck I'll likewise spend it on bills/rent/fun/games. I don't always have money on hand lol, do you?
wow nice you made me look like a fool now

Flee you were right, it's secondclass we're talking about of course he's not gonna save money
Why would I save money lol, I have a perfect life right now where I can afford to live plus buy the things that make me happy. If I saved like $100 every paycheck it would be like 5 months before it even added up substantially.

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:57:15 PM »
Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
Kinda stupid thing to say
Do elaborate
If you can't afford to pay for a game that costs 60 dollars once you get your paycheck plus pay all your bills and set aside some for savings then you're barely making a salary. I'd be more on your side if he was working in some poor country or if he was out on the street scrapping things to make money, but he has a normal job.

Too little money in the salary to want to save up big, and too much to be so sparse with it.
Yeah I get $700-$800 every two weeks.

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:56:38 PM »
Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
i don't get it either
What's not to get? I go to work to get money, I bought a PS4 with my last paycheck and paid rent so I'm broke until the day after tomorrow.

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:55:46 PM »
Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
Huh?

I don't get it, how else would I pay for a game? You kinda need money to buy things lol?
It's not that you have to pay for it, it's that you have to wait before you're able to pay for it. Unless that's not the case and I'm reading too much into it, but saying pointing out that you'll be waiting on your paycheck before buying a game you could otherwise just get right now does give that impression. You do you of course, but it seems a bit strange from a personal finance perspective.
Really confused about this. I have $0 right now because I already spent my last paycheck on bills/rent/fun/games, and when I get my next paycheck I'll likewise spend it on bills/rent/fun/games. I don't always have money on hand lol, do you?

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:43:40 PM »
Might not be the best idea to grab a brand new game if you have to wait to get paid until you can get it.
Huh?

I don't get it, how else would I pay for a game? You kinda need money to buy things lol?

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 01:05:30 PM »
Fallout 76 is terrible. Don't touch it.
lol ofc you'd say that

the ambiance looks good and so does the action, PLUS it's open world

there's no choices/dialogue so it's not a Fallout game but it looks stellar to me regardless
I played the beta. It's not as fun as it looks.

The action is the worst part. Gunplay feels nothing like Fallout 4, which was the minimum I was hoping for but I guess Bethesda are too incompetent to achieve even that. Enemies have been dumbed down, most will just stand there and let you shoot them. Hit registration is all over the place, especially for melee.

The "quests" all follow the same god awful formula - try to find person, find out said person is dead, person conveniently left audio tape saying they want you to do X, do X, complete quest.

The audio logs aren't even interesting, either. I stopped bothering to listen to them because of how boring and drawn out they were.

The map is the only good thing about this game, and even then it's a shame to see it wasted on this pile of garbage. It's genuinely one of the most boring games I've ever played.

Even the online component, the main selling point of the game, is awful. PvP consists of you standing around shooting each other for ages in some eternal standoff. When you're killed you can respawn in pretty much the same place and start attacking them again. Gunplay does not feel good at all.
hmm gotcha, thanks for your time with this post

I thought you were just basing it off of being a Fallout game but these criticisms are the same ones I've been seeing

I'll probably get RDR2 then but I hear the movement (which is really important) is sluggish. Also I hear that the 1st person mode, which I got excited for, sucks

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 13, 2018, 11:54:27 AM »
Fallout 76 is terrible. Don't touch it.
lol ofc you'd say that

the ambiance looks good and so does the action, PLUS it's open world

there's no choices/dialogue so it's not a Fallout game but it looks stellar to me regardless

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The Flood / Re: i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 12, 2018, 10:32:29 PM »
Don't waste your time on Fallout 76. The game is trash.
how so

it looks fun

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The Flood / i get paid on thurs, should I get fallout 76 or RDR2
« on: November 12, 2018, 05:57:49 PM »
assuming i dont buy both

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