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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:47:30 PM »
Yeah, then in that case a large chunk of the debt must be cut. Otherwise the country will be doomed anyway. I know it would suck, but Greece should at the least leave the Euro.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:43:19 PM »
Yeah, and I bet you tear each time you see your nation's flag waving. Please. Quite easy to separate between people when someone's at an advantage, isn't it? No, it's a union for countries that have strong economies with decent and hard working people.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:40:32 PM »
Or maybe try to fix the hole and prevent the sinking altogether. That is better than making a union collapse onto itself. ...So? What's with this Eurostate patriotism? Who the fuck cares? Abandon ship and save yourselves.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:39:25 PM »
Yeah, in that case it's what, an union for who thinks they are "worthy" ? Coincidentally all of them who had their asses saved from the Marshall Plan and the US army? None of those countries should be part of the EU.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:37:12 PM »
They are not. We are at the center of the typhoon, when it's calm, and it stagnates. At least, for Greece. The worst days of the crisis are over now.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:35:48 PM »
Yeah, we should leave because we're being used as an experimental state. If nations start leaving the EU then it will just mark the political failure that it is. Not only putting into shame all the work up until now, but even more imprinting how it was all about selfish interests, and not the common good. Which is exactly why you guys should leave.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:34:31 PM »
Not direct ones, but it's what it appears to be from when I try to find information about specific things in the EU. It's ironic how easier it's to find coherent information about the US government than the Eurogroup, and the Eurozone-- and afterwards you go to all those individual associations that are loosely tied to the EU. You probably have more personal experience with the EU's bureaucracy than me, honestly. Have you ever had any experiences with it?
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:31:23 PM »
That's why it fails. It shouldn't be Germany running the EU, nor France, nor Greece or any power. However, and actual, and democratic union. Not one built on selfish interests and intrigue. The German people shouldn't pay for the various schemes of their banks, and the Greek people shouldn't pay an impossible debt for the German and French banks who were involved in all this. Greece should pay a reasonable debt, and the Greek people will gladly pay as long they are not an experiment of how to make a EU nation into a puppet state. Germany runs the EU. They're not being backed.
The Euro is a failed experiment. I knew this was gonna happen for a while now.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:28:46 PM »
Either way it's a bureaucratic mess to go through. It's not as simply going "kthx bye" and everyone walks out of the union. Yet, this kind of conflict in interests could lead to it crashing quite well. (Which it should deserve if it gets any more out of hand) That is a major flaw with it. Which is that the people really have no voice in what the EU itself does as an organization. But would it really be better to dismantle the entire union because of that?
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:27:25 PM »
It shouldn't have. Whoever backs Germany wants the Euro as a strong currency, so it appears, anyone who is weak must be punished for it. And the Euro has made everything astronomically worse.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:25:17 PM »
The EU is not innocent since it seems to exist only to serve the needs of specific nations in the union, and not the general well-being of the whole union. The EU president is also not democratically elected by the people of the EU. What sort of democratic union doesn't let the people choose their president? I know. I really have no idea why people are blaming the EU for this crisis.
Though the EU really shouldn't be admitting any new countries until this crisis passes through (Croatia)....
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:20:42 PM »
Many countries were also communist in Eastern Europe, and the fall of Communism in the 90's led to many issues, and those countries suffer still from their political and economical changes. Corruption is also more common in this part of Europe because of the mentality attached to political figures, and that's an essential difference between other nations in the western world. One of the early speeches in the parliament of Tsipras involved that their effort was also to hopefully change the mentality of Greek politics. Some also criticized that as ridiculous, especially the notion that Syriza wants to also change the EU mentality. If you think they're doing terrible now, you should have seen how they were doing before the EU and Eurozone. Which was far, far worse. It's probably better right now, during all of these recessions/unemployment than it would have been had they not joined the EU to begin with. And let's say nothing about how they were doing before this financial crisis.
Also, the EU/Eurozone had literally nothing to do with these countries going into crisis. What caused it was the pre-existing culture of corruption and tax evasion, so the Governments were spending money that they didn't have. Claiming that EU countries would be better off without the EU is pure populist bullshit.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:17:07 PM »
Well, the other countries have other issues when it comes to Greece. Whose history with the allies dates back when everyone wanted to weaken the Ottoman empire, and coincidentally money and human talent appeared for the early Greek revolution against the Ottomans. It also involved some of the other Balkan countries, but ultimately, I think that Greece's luck, geography and some political factors made it stand out compared to the neighbor countries. (And it hasn't been long since the war in Bosnia) So, much of the human talent went to Europe, and Greece meanwhile the countries were suffering from the war. Albania is an example of a country that had that, and Macedonia (FYROM) is one that was many times dissed away when it should have been an ideal diplomatic development for Greece. Instead, in the European agenda, it seems, that isolating and ruining those individual nations is a solid plan. Mostly, many trade routes that should be available to Greece are not there simply because the previous governments were mainly backing the interests of the EU, not those of Greece or the Greek people most of the time. However, many people overlooked them as the years went on; after all, they had money, and the job recommendation in the public sector, and the EU gladly closed an eye on the skeletons in the closet. That is, until shit hit the fan. Which is why all the Mediterranean countries in the Eurozone are doing fucking terrible and can't afford the cost of living?
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:09:54 PM »
It likely is since Greece is a critical spot for the region, especially with Ukraine, ISIS and Syria. Those parts of the post were sarcasm.
And yeah, really the US is the only player who even has a remote chance of helping Greece if they leave the EU. And even then, let's be serious. That's not happening.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 05:03:23 PM »
Fat chance, both Turkey and Russia have serious economic issues. I think the US will get involved if it goes to those extremes. I really hope that Greece stays in the EU and Eurozone because they are literally helpless without them.
Okay. Greece can go with Russia, since they're such a great nation to be associated with right now.
Or Turkey, since Turkey would absolutely *love* to help Greece.
The EU is really the only local, reliable friend that Greece has. Them leaving the EU would be a catastrophe. And it'd screw me out of living in any other EU country. <____________< (I'm not biased)
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« on: April 08, 2015, 02:40:35 PM »
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« on: April 08, 2015, 02:38:31 PM »
The state ISP owns the lines (OTE, all of them or most of them in certain areas) so if the country goes bankrupt the semi-private state ISP will also have trouble paying for its own. Honestly, if banks stop working and there's no money it means nobody will be able to pay, nor OTE will be able to pay for paychecks. Electricity is also handled by a semi-private company that owns the whole network-- ΔΕΗ. Yeah, if the banks do not have any money it will be a systematical collapse by the time things need to be paid. Honestly, I am not sure how terrible it will be. If the economy also collapses like that then nobody will have money, and if nobody has money then nobody can buy anything and nobody will find anyone to sell things to. And with the savings up in the air? Yeah, it's going to be a fun ride. Personal level of concern?
You're in university if memory serves. Access to internet has to be payed or said supplier would cut you off.
You think any of those troubles might effect you in any way?
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« on: April 08, 2015, 02:29:22 PM »
Yes, because the capitalistic economy isn't an isolationist one. It'll be a house of cards, some might suffer less than others, though. An unofficial announcement today said that there's enough money to pay retirements, and paychecks, but also the loans. (Although, since it's unofficial, I would like it to be true) Question. Are you in any particular way worried about what has a chance of going down for your country?
Edit: It also appears the banks are desperately trying on making more loans on their own as of yesterday.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 02:21:16 PM »
To either a political failure between the Eurogroup and Greece, or a success for both, or that will only satisfy the needs of Greece, or certain state members of the EU. Unofficially it has been acknowledged that on April 9th Greece will actually run out of money, and it was predicted that Greece would run out money (earlier, last year) by April 20th, and the current situation in Greece is yelling that; there are very little people spending money, and many stores the last month especially are almost empty, except those in central urban areas who still saw a little amount of people.
So, I am opening this thread to actually discuss the effects it might have on your own country, and the US. Since, at least for Greece, I am quite sure that if people in Athens will wake up without money in their bank accounts an urban warfare will ensure shortly after. (Much worse than the situations throughout the previous government, and I am backing up this theory with general history of the past few years, and the overall mood around the Greek web, but I doubt that it will come to this horrible scenario, albeit other Greeks are pessimistic about Syria's durability in this tense moment of negotiation)
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« on: April 08, 2015, 07:19:42 AM »
You should have bought your phone case... IN AMERICA.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 07:10:46 AM »
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« on: April 08, 2015, 07:09:03 AM »
Not creepy at all. According to him, he got in trouble for giving the female buffet employees gifts and attention.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 07:07:03 AM »
Stupid policies are to be challenged. Otherwise, they risk remaining there. if it's against the policy it's against the policy.
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« on: April 08, 2015, 07:01:40 AM »
He just killed him in cold blood.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 07:21:22 PM »
They buried a person that was alive.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 03:52:01 PM »
I think that's a good idea, we could test it out and see how it goes. We could simplify the whole thing and have new threads reflected by the icon on the left (add icons that are brighter or have an outline or different, attention grabbing color scheme). The only issue with that is the extremely useful link to the oldest post you haven't read yet in each thread that the "new" link goes to.
I mean, we could add that to the icon, but it would seem odd to me.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 01:37:08 PM »
What does it mean to be alive? That's the actual question behind this one, and it has been an ongoing debate in the field of philosophy with artificial intelligence for a long time. Descartes has some interesting views on the subject, and Gilbert Ryle's description of the mind-body dualism makes it even more interesting.
tl;dr (or IQ below potato): there's no finite answer, it's up in the air and it's a philosophical question.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 01:32:10 PM »
What is love, baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more
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« on: April 07, 2015, 12:36:36 PM »
It will keep being a failure as long in the EU nations serve their own agenda and not a common one that actually benefits all members. The European Union is a fucking failure.
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« on: April 07, 2015, 12:31:47 PM »
And maybe the EU shouldn't have accepted Greece since it knew that it was b.s.ing. Hey, it's too late for that now, isn't it? Maybe Greece shouldn't have lied to get into the European Union in the first place, then. . .
Actually, I'm just going to leave this here.
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