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7981
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:55:08 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist:
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
enlightened agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tell me, why should any rational person give this so called "God" the benefit is the doubt apart from the fact that it's the common thing to believe in? Hundreds of years ago it was Zeus and Co. And people were considered fools back then for doubting their existence.
He doesn't exist.
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless.
And don't give me that philosophical subjectivity bullshit because we all know that's just to help you get some sleep at night.
Life is pointless without a cruel and sadistic god?
LOL
Who said he has to be the god in the Old Testament? Or Kali? Or Zeus?
Because the "new and improved" god isn't cruel and sadistic?
I also want to point out something else. Working off the assumption that a God does not exist, there can be no objective meaning to our existence. Without a higher deity to give an objective basis of rules and morals to follow, behavior in of itself is a subjective concept that we follow purely off the basis of it being needed for society to function. Beyond that, there is no right or wrong. Our very lives are finite and we will cease to exist after our lives end. No reward, no punishment, nothing. We follow some rules and conform to a norm purely off the basis of us being forced to. Why should I truly act in a moral manner, waste my life living altruistically if there is no end goal in sight?
I believe its called being a good person.
Something we did and do just fine without religion. If you need an invisible gun to your head to make you do good things, you're not a good person.
Like I said, good is just a definition we use just to keep society going, beyond that, good and evil are just arbitrary definitions we made. The truth of it all is, that good and evil mean jack shit at the end of the day if we're working under the belief that there is no God or afterlife. Every action we commit will mean nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. If were to kill several people and then take my own life after, I'd get the same result that I would if I lived a long life as a good person. I won't be able to take my soul, my conscious, whatever you want to call it with me after death. So why should I care?
Because those people don't deserve to die and you shouldn't cut your life short.
That's what makes life so fucking valuable. How short and fragile it is.
But you're pulling the value out of your ass in the absence of a divine creator.
7982
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:50:00 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist:
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
enlightened agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tell me, why should any rational person give this so called "God" the benefit is the doubt apart from the fact that it's the common thing to believe in? Hundreds of years ago it was Zeus and Co. And people were considered fools back then for doubting their existence.
He doesn't exist.
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless.
And don't give me that philosophical subjectivity bullshit because we all know that's just to help you get some sleep at night.
Life is pointless without a cruel and sadistic god?
LOL
Who said he has to be the god in the Old Testament? Or Kali? Or Zeus?
Because the "new and improved" god isn't cruel and sadistic?
I also want to point out something else. Working off the assumption that a God does not exist, there can be no objective meaning to our existence. Without a higher deity to give an objective basis of rules and morals to follow, behavior in of itself is a subjective concept that we follow purely off the basis of it being needed for society to function. Beyond that, there is no right or wrong. Our very lives are finite and we will cease to exist after our lives end. No reward, no punishment, nothing. We follow some rules and conform to a norm purely off the basis of us being forced to. Why should I truly act in a moral manner, waste my life living altruistically if there is no end goal in sight?
I believe its called being a good person.
Something we did and do just fine without religion. If you need an invisible gun to your head to make you do good things, you're not a good person.
Like I said, good is just a definition we use just to keep society going, beyond that, good and evil are just arbitrary definitions we made. The truth of it all is, that good and evil mean jack shit at the end of the day if we're working under the belief that there is no God or afterlife. Every action we commit will mean nothing in the grand scheme of the universe. If were to kill several people and then take my own life after, I'd get the same result that I would if I lived a long life as a good person. I won't be able to take my soul, my conscious, whatever you want to call it with me after death. So why should I care?
7983
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:34:44 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist:
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
enlightened agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tell me, why should any rational person give this so called "God" the benefit is the doubt apart from the fact that it's the common thing to believe in? Hundreds of years ago it was Zeus and Co. And people were considered fools back then for doubting their existence.
He doesn't exist.
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless.
And don't give me that philosophical subjectivity bullshit because we all know that's just to help you get some sleep at night.
Life is pointless without a cruel and sadistic god?
LOL
Who said he has to be the god in the Old Testament? Or Kali? Or Zeus?
Because the "new and improved" god isn't cruel and sadistic?
I also want to point out something else. Working off the assumption that a God does not exist, there can be no objective meaning to our existence. Without a higher deity to give an objective basis of rules and morals to follow, behavior in of itself is a subjective concept that we follow purely off the basis of it being needed for society to function. Beyond that, there is no right or wrong. Our very lives are finite and we will cease to exist after our lives end. No reward, no punishment, nothing. We follow some rules and conform to a norm purely off the basis of us being forced to. Why should I truly act in a moral manner, waste my life living altruistically if there is no end goal in sight?
7984
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:23:48 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist:
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
enlightened agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tell me, why should any rational person give this so called "God" the benefit is the doubt apart from the fact that it's the common thing to believe in? Hundreds of years ago it was Zeus and Co. And people were considered fools back then for doubting their existence.
He doesn't exist.
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless.
And don't give me that philosophical subjectivity bullshit because we all know that's just to help you get some sleep at night.
Life is pointless without a cruel and sadistic god?
LOL
Who said he has to be the god in the Old Testament? Or Kali? Or Zeus?
7985
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:15:07 PM »
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless. lol
just lol
Here comes the fedora patrol :^)
No. Just what you said is laughably retarded.
Because it's true?
7986
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:14:36 PM »
Female in case she needs to touch my balls
7987
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:11:54 PM »
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless. lol
just lol
Here comes the fedora patrol :^)
7988
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:09:45 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it
Show me one wise person who isn't religious
Stephen Hawking is pretty wise
He likes the Big Bang Theory tho so
7989
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:05:43 PM »
I knew it was going to be a MILF thread.
It always is
7990
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:04:15 PM »
That's a nice booty
Mommy has to keep her figure
7991
« on: March 10, 2015, 07:03:23 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist:
a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods.
enlightened agnostic:
a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
Tell me, why should any rational person give this so called "God" the benefit is the doubt apart from the fact that it's the common thing to believe in? Hundreds of years ago it was Zeus and Co. And people were considered fools back then for doubting their existence.
He doesn't exist.
"A god" exists because without him life is pointless. And don't give me that philosophical subjectivity bullshit because we all know that's just to help you get some sleep at night.
7992
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:47:04 PM »
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not.
You mean he said the exact same thing the New Atheists have been saying all along?
Holy shit! What a fucking revelation!
Yeah, it's not at all shocking that most atheists are agnostic as opposed to gnostic.
lel atheist: a person who disbelieves or lacks belief in the existence of God or gods. enlightened agnostic: a person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena; a person who claims neither faith nor disbelief in God.
7993
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:42:28 PM »
anon that was supposed to be shit
7994
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:42:08 PM »
tfw OP will never be your mom
7995
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:33:29 PM »
Bertrand Russell, Ludwig Wittgenstein and Karl Popper are the three names which immediately spring to mind when it comes to wise atheists.
"In an interview[26] that Popper gave in 1969 with the condition that it shall be kept secret until after his death, he summarised his position on God as follows: "I don't know whether God exists or not. ... Some forms of atheism are arrogant and ignorant and should be rejected, but agnosticism—to admit that we don't know and to search—is all right. ..." Clarify how you know for sure Wittgenstein was Atheist? >Russel >Anti-War acitivist HAHAHAHAAHAHA
7996
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:11:22 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it
Show me one wise person who isn't religious
I mean
He could list a couple, but you're just gonna immediately deny that any of them are smart, or differentiate between "smart" and "wise" in some overly pedantic way
Try me
Why, just so you can do exactly what Cindy just said?
Depends on if you prove me wrong or not
I could , but you'd just pull some bullshit out of your arse as to why they aren't wise.
Wisdom isn't exclusive to religion.
Yes it is.
7997
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:10:11 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it
Show me one wise person who isn't religious
Richard Dawkins.
LOL
7998
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:06:00 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it
Show me one wise person who isn't religious
I mean
He could list a couple, but you're just gonna immediately deny that any of them are smart, or differentiate between "smart" and "wise" in some overly pedantic way
Try me
Why, just so you can do exactly what Cindy just said?
Depends on if you prove me wrong or not
7999
« on: March 10, 2015, 06:03:21 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it
Show me one wise person who isn't religious
I mean
He could list a couple, but you're just gonna immediately deny that any of them are smart, or differentiate between "smart" and "wise" in some overly pedantic way
Try me
8000
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:59:24 PM »
You can be wise without being religious.
LOL prove it Show me one wise person who isn't religious
8001
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:52:25 PM »
>years of experience
>teaches philosophy
Yeah, they call it philosophy.
They only get away with it because we have to learn vaguely about logical positivism and secular authority. The rest of it is just theology.
And we all know theology is bullshit.
Oh i see, you're still in the "Atheist" phase of your youth.
Age and religion aren't related
Religion and wisdom are. The only people who are actually atheists are just young and naive.
8002
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:49:38 PM »
>years of experience
>teaches philosophy
Yeah, they call it philosophy.
They only get away with it because we have to learn vaguely about logical positivism and secular authority. The rest of it is just theology.
And we all know theology is bullshit.
Oh i see, you're still in the "Atheist" phase of your youth.
8003
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:46:57 PM »
>pretending you know better than the wiser and more experienced woman teaching you
I'm not pretending.
I do.
>years of experience >teaches philosophy you're just some kid who's barely 18 who posts on Youthdebate
8004
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:46:17 PM »
8005
« on: March 10, 2015, 05:43:57 PM »
>pretending you know better than the wiser and more experienced woman teaching you
8006
« on: March 10, 2015, 12:05:49 PM »
The premise of the show is haram enough for me to not want to watch it, this thread has reinforced my viewpoint.
It's so haram... but it feels so halal
That would be Haram x2 then .-.
A loving Allah would support loving your mommy
Not in that way.
Haram.
YOU'RE HARAM
THIS WHOLE FORUMS HARAM
Now you're getting it!
:-DDDDDDDD
8007
« on: March 10, 2015, 12:04:59 PM »
8008
« on: March 10, 2015, 12:04:28 PM »
discuss memes and internet culture and its impact on society as a whole.
8009
« on: March 10, 2015, 12:03:31 PM »
The premise of the show is haram enough for me to not want to watch it, this thread has reinforced my viewpoint.
It's so haram... but it feels so halal
That would be Haram x2 then .-.
A loving Allah would support loving your mommy
Not in that way.
Haram.
YOU'RE HARAM THIS WHOLE FORUMS HARAM
8010
« on: March 10, 2015, 11:58:58 AM »
The premise of the show is haram enough for me to not want to watch it, this thread has reinforced my viewpoint.
It's so haram... but it feels so halal
That would be Haram x2 then .-.
A loving Allah would support loving your mommy
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