Yeah

If you say no you're an autist.

F1 and F2 are shit garbage

I forgot that the first Bathory album slays

Sad funny isn't funny.

Yes it is

Point still stands. You don't like Fallout. You definitely wouldn't like Baldur's Gate. It's just not for you. Slow doesn't mean boring or bad. There's really no other way to explain it. It's just not for you.

No it's bad

Quote from: Jim on November 03, 2015, 11:47:00 AM

I dunno, but I am leaving this site before my 25th birthday if it lasts that long.

I don't want to end up a weirdo like Chakas and Charlie who are full grown adults still posting on forums filled with teenagers.

Yeah but Jim. Everybody here is aging as well.

You'll be posting on a site filled with crusty old fucks.

It'll be like that one restaurant where all the old guys hang out.

Good point tbh fam

dick

What's the appeal of sports games? Same shit every year and lolsprorts

People enjoy them. Same with Fallout. They've released newer games like it, such as Pillars Of Eternity. The reviews that game got, along with it's sales show an obvious interest for it. You said the game was slow. And? Here's the thing. You don't like it. So you won't see the appeal of it. You like it or you don't.

sports games are objectively shit

Devils advocate aside, my Chinese food is on its way, so I'll have to bring this discussion to a close. I've said what I needed to anyway in regards to my opinions and the thought process.

Others can carry it on or make their own judgement.

Chinese food is also objectively shit

Quote from: Jim on November 03, 2015, 11:10:59 AM

Again, if you want that kind of atmosphere, you should either be playing a game that actually has enjoyable gameplay or play a tabletop RPG and use your imagination instead of settling for a second rate version of what you want.

But there are people who enjoy top down gameplay (and still do if Pillars of Eternity proved anything), and the atmosphere for Fallout 1 and 2 was just fine.

If anything, your logic is telling me that I should settle with something that's objectively less of an atmosphere unless you somehow use your imagination to make up for it. In terms of video games, no one has to do that.

How is top down gameplay fun at all?

Except in like RTS games or shooters/shmups

Quote from: Jim on November 03, 2015, 11:04:44 AM

Quote from: Luciana on November 03, 2015, 10:58:44 AM

By that very same logic, someone could say CoD is fun all day, every day, because of the "mostly polished" gameplay.

I can understand that more than I can understand enjoying Fallout 1 and 2.

It just seems to me that if you want to play Fallout 1 or 2, just play a tabletop RPG, because it will be a thousand times better and will give you the same effect.

But some people enjoy the universe, darkness, story, and dread that Fallout as a universe brings. And speaking from an atmospheric perspective, Fallout 1 and 2 nail that on so many levels.

Just because one does it better doesn't mean the other should be completely disregarded. And you're comparing a video game to a real life table top thing, which kinda blurs the line.

Again, if you want that kind of atmosphere, you should either be playing a game that actually has enjoyable gameplay or play a tabletop RPG and use your imagination instead of settling for a second rate version of what you want.

Quote from: Luciana on November 03, 2015, 11:03:47 AM

In terms of gameplay, it's kind of impossible to compare Fallout 1 and 2 to 3 and NV, considering they're entirely different genre's at that point.

which is interesting

how come they made such a drastic change anyway

Because the old way was shit

By that very same logic, someone could say CoD is fun all day, every day, because of the "mostly polished" gameplay.

I can understand that more than I can understand enjoying Fallout 1 and 2.

It just seems to me that if you want to play Fallout 1 or 2, just play a tabletop RPG, because it will be a thousand times better and will give you the same effect.

but I could forgive it due to it's age

Don't do that