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6931
« on: February 20, 2015, 10:35:14 AM »
I'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.
Ah, that would explain, and now i'm starting to hate the Administration, what are they thinking, this is treason and out right stupid, it's like telling a snake what your doing.
They've already announced a timeline for pulling out. It's all an effort to appease a war-weary nation that this won't be another drawn-out war in Iraq. Which is nonsense, and publicizing strategy is just silly, but that's what's going down.
6932
« on: February 20, 2015, 10:32:29 AM »
Hey Meta, when are you going to make your video? I want to hear American economy discussed in your sultry British accent.
6933
« on: February 20, 2015, 10:28:34 AM »
I'm a little confused why you're blaming Fox News. Is was the president's administration that released it to the media, and Fox got the story from the AP.
6934
« on: February 20, 2015, 08:22:46 AM »
Subaru Outback, in my opinion. Depends on what you need, though.
6935
« on: February 20, 2015, 08:04:39 AM »
Lol
Literally fan art.
It's from Zack Snyder's twitter. Flee: nope, it's from Bats v Supes.
6936
« on: February 20, 2015, 06:45:30 AM »
 Still miss Jason Momoa as Ronan Dex.
6937
« on: February 20, 2015, 12:10:11 AM »
Here's a short little film for anyone lacking a bit of horror in their life. Be sure to watch it right before going to bed.
Alright, had my headphones at full volume and the rain at the beginning managed to kill me before the scare
I slept with the lights on for a few days after that.
6938
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:47:39 PM »
Here's a short little film for anyone lacking a bit of horror in their life. Be sure to watch it right before going to bed.
6939
« on: February 19, 2015, 08:19:21 PM »
6940
« on: February 19, 2015, 03:20:03 PM »
Stoning was the law at the time. "The wages of sin is death" is a common phrase you may have heard, basically meaning that from the very beginning, any of the mildest transgressions should have been met with death. The reason that all changed is because, prior to Jesus, sacrifices were made to atone. After Jesus, there's no need for them. The levitical laws were nullified long before then, though.
6941
« on: February 19, 2015, 03:00:08 PM »
I'm on my phone now, so quoting is harder.
For the church positions, elders are the unpaid, volunteer leaders of the church. They directly control the high paid positions like lead or executive pastor. I've told you what their positions are. There isn't a 1:1 correspondence to Catholicism, but a pastor is equivalent to a priest, typically.
As for the notion of God destroying another place, well you'd kind of have to read the books to get the story, but after the New Testament sin isn't reciprocated the same way.
Homosexuality is a tough issue and I think you'll see a lot of backpedaling in the next few decades. The most reasonable explanation I've heard is that some people (gay people and lesbians, particularly) are called to live in chastity. Not sure how much I agree, but the overarching idea is that sexuality is sacred and to be treated with modesty and control. Whether you accept the interpretation of Sodom and Gomorrah is non-salvific.
6942
« on: February 19, 2015, 02:10:54 PM »
That's mostly in Catholicism. My church has women leaders, as do many Protestant churches. I don't agree with Catholicismin many areas, and I think they've largely fallen into apostasy. What are their actual positions, though? I think that's key here >.> if it's just a 'poor man's priest' kind of role, that's still not equal.
Several women on the board of elders, several women pastors. It's very common for women to be in those positions. I don't quite see how that necessarily rejects the quotes I gave. Yeah, be nice to each other and all, but the man still gets priority. It literally says they're equals and to be subservient to each other. God literally killed gay people . Yeah, he also killed straight people. A town that's cool with people gang-raping visitors as a welcome-wagon is pretty screwed up.
6943
« on: February 19, 2015, 01:49:37 PM »
Throughout the history of Christianity, the biggest positions were always reserved for men. They can't be priests, or cardinals, or the Pope. Men still run the show. That's mostly in Catholicism. My church has women leaders, as do many Protestant churches. I don't agree with Catholicismin many areas, and I think they've largely fallen into apostasy. Can you provide these verses? Spoiler http://www.biblestudytools.com/topical-verses/marriage-bible-verses/1 Corinthians 7:1-16New International Version (NIV)
Concerning Married Life
7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. 6 I say this as a concession, not as a command. 7 I wish that all of you were as I am. But each of you has your own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.
8 Now to the unmarried[a] and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I do. 9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.
10 To the married I give this command (not I, but the Lord): A wife must not separate from her husband. 11 But if she does, she must remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband. And a husband must not divorce his wife.
12 To the rest I say this (I, not the Lord): If any brother has a wife who is not a believer and she is willing to live with him, he must not divorce her. 13 And if a woman has a husband who is not a believer and he is willing to live with her, she must not divorce him. 14 For the unbelieving husband has been sanctified through his wife, and the unbelieving wife has been sanctified through her believing husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.
15 But if the unbeliever leaves, let it be so. The brother or the sister is not bound in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. 16 How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or, how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife? What have you to say about Sodom and Gomorrah? You know, the town that was smitten by God for being too fabulous? Homosexuality is a sin in mainstream Christianity. I'm not saying it isn't. Sodom wasn't an upstanding town filled with happy, nice gay people. It was a town that was completely lost to self-indulgence and immorality, and the specific event that sparked its destruction was when the townspeople gang-raped a visitor. What I'm telling you is that it is not a commandment to kill gay people, that was just the law of the city at the time. You have to look at this through the lens of history, in which that was pretty much status quo.
6944
« on: February 19, 2015, 01:19:43 PM »
It's the foundation of science
..eh? I don't follow. Do you mean that some of the most notable scientists were religious?
Religions started largely as a way to understand the world. As that understanding grew, that exploration turned into more reliable processes and the members at its forefront became the fathers of modern science. Until the last couple hundred years, science had been conducted almost exclusively by religious institutions, as was education.
Right, but religion is not currently the foundation of science. It was, way back when, but hasn't been for a long time.
Sure. It's the historical foundation, not the procedural one.
Wouldn't that be a reason to leave it in the past though?
If it wasn't still relevant for other reasons which I listed, maybe. To disregard something so deeply ingrained in human culture just seems stupid, though.
6945
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:52:34 PM »
FEAR was never meant to be scary. Any game that gives you a shotgun forfeits the fear factor. Have you played Five Nights at Freddy's? As dumb of a game that it is, it's still really suspenseful and fun.
Also, Amnesia 1 & 2 are timeless horror games.
6946
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:27:59 PM »
An Halo?
Jet fuel can't melt Halo rings.
6947
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:11:19 PM »
Why not Chicago?
6948
« on: February 19, 2015, 12:02:13 PM »
I'm eating lunch right now, but the long and short of it is these verses don't mean what they seem to mean.
I think they're very straightforward, and I'm not sure how they could be misinterpreted, but I'd like to hear what you have to say.
Aight, here we go. A woman should learn in quietness and full submission. I do not permit a woman to teach or to assume authority over a man; she must be quiet. . In the first sentence, Paul's addressing an issue Timothy was having with women being loud and disruptive in a church. In the second sentence, Paul's talking about his personal style of running a church in which male deacons instructed men, and female deacons instructed the women. That's just how it was in that day, catechism classes were separated by gender. He's telling Timothy he prefers to do so, rather than mix them. He's not saying it's wrong for women to teach, which is obviously wrong since there's overwhelming evidence of Christianity using women as teachers, and was highly progressive and egalitarian in its treatment of women as compared to the rest of society. Then they can urge the younger women to love their husbands and children, to be self-controlled and pure, to be busy at home, to be kind, and to be subject to their husbands, so that no one will malign the word of God.
I don't see any problem with this. There are other verses telling men to do the same thing, and submit to their spouse, too. Men and women are equal in a marriage and should both work and be faithful. You shall not lie with a male as with a woman. It is an abomination. There are interesting theories here, delving into the original language it was written. One prominent theory is that the word translated into 'male' actually fits 'boy' better, and is referring to the young male servant that was typical in neighboring Mediterranean cultures, often used sexually by the master of the house. This law is telling the Israelites that they shouldn't adopt that practice. Another less specific theory is that, because homosexuality was more dominant in Mediterranean areas, and Israel was meant to remain apart of them, that they should not follow that practice. If a man lies with a male as he lies with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination. They shall surely be put to death. Their blood shall be upon them. Nothing to say about this except that it was a law of Israel at the time. It's not a commandment to put homosexuals (or anyone) to death. This particular law falls under the civil category, rather than the religious category of Israelite laws. these verses don't mean what they seem to mean.
I find it hard to believe God was either a monoglot or a bad communicator.
I do, too. These weren't penned by God, they were written by the people of the time, carefully copied and translated over time. All you have to do is about 5 minutes of exegesis to actually understand what the meaning of something is, or read a study bible or a commentary. Dr. Thomas Constable is currently my go-to source for biblical commentary.
6949
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:45:47 AM »
Religion as a means of explaining the machinations the universe is the precursor the rigor of modern-day science.
I suppose, but that seems more like a technicality than anything else. I mean, religion essentially arose itself out of a need for moral and cultural homogeneity among tribes, but I wouldn't claim morality is the foundation of religion.
I didn't claim morality is the foundation of religion...that just seems circular.
6950
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:43:21 AM »
There's really not a lot of info on this so far, but basically, they're not banning AP classes, they're attempting to block a recently introduced new framework that they claim is politically biased, overly sanitized of religion, and radically revisionist. The effort is to put it back to the pre-2012 version the state had, which supposedly has a stronger emphasis on the motivations of the founding fathers and the declaration.
I couldn't find any actual quotes from the committee saying it's because it's unpatriotic.
6951
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:23:53 AM »
It's the foundation of science
..eh? I don't follow. Do you mean that some of the most notable scientists were religious?
Religions started largely as a way to understand the world. As that understanding grew, that exploration turned into more reliable processes and the members at its forefront became the fathers of modern science. Until the last couple hundred years, science had been conducted almost exclusively by religious institutions, as was education.
Right, but religion is not currently the foundation of science. It was, way back when, but hasn't been for a long time.
Sure. It's the historical foundation, not the procedural one.
6952
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:22:19 AM »
I'm eating lunch right now, but the long and short of it is these verses don't mean what they seem to mean.
6953
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:13:42 AM »
It's the foundation of science
Come on, man. The fact that the scientific method sprung from a religious society, when religion was ubiquitous, doesn't make religion the foundation of science.
See above. Religion as a means of explaining the machinations the universe is the precursor the rigor of modern-day science.
6954
« on: February 19, 2015, 11:12:11 AM »
It's the foundation of science
..eh? I don't follow. Do you mean that some of the most notable scientists were religious?
Religions started largely as a way to understand the world. As that understanding grew, that exploration turned into more reliable processes and the members at its forefront became the fathers of modern science. Until the last couple hundred years, science had been conducted almost exclusively by religious institutions, as was education.
6955
« on: February 19, 2015, 07:46:15 AM »
Probably because it's been an integral part of human culture since civilization began. It's the foundation of science, what ties different peoples together, and provides a source of philosophy and meaning for billions of people.
6956
« on: February 18, 2015, 10:43:47 PM »
 Fuck everyone, I present coconut breaded chicken with apricot chutney sauce, grilled asparagus and steamed brown rice.
6957
« on: February 18, 2015, 07:29:34 PM »
Yeah doc, there's something wet and sticky on my pe- oh, not that kind of doctor? Do your thing, then.
6958
« on: February 18, 2015, 07:12:52 PM »
I'm going to the store to get stuff for dinner. Post recipes and I'll make the one that sounds the least terrible. Preferably something with chicken. 
6959
« on: February 18, 2015, 06:46:28 PM »
No, because I don't have tea and lime juice running through my veins. Maybe for Congress, though.
6960
« on: February 18, 2015, 06:14:10 PM »
FUCKING HELL IT'S THE TRIFORCE
Are you saying Ganondorf is Jewish?
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