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Gaming / Is Civ V worth getting into?
« on: March 19, 2015, 11:49:01 PM »
The Compete Edition of Civ V, with all the DLC packs, is $12.50 on Steam. Obviously it's a great deal, but I've never played a Civ game, and rarely play strategy games in general. But I've heard good things about this series; do you recommend getting into the genre with this game?

https://store.steampowered.com/sub/36075/?snr=1_702_4_

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Serious / Re: Oklahoma is making atheist marriages illegal
« on: March 19, 2015, 09:53:03 PM »
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‘Marriage was not instituted by government,’ said Rep. Dennis Johnson, who backed the bill.

‘It was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.’

I feel like there should be some sort of oversight committee in congress that can quickly recall representatives that clearly have no understanding of the basic tenets of our laws.

....Can...can you please help me wrap my brain around his logic?

"The government should not get involved in marriage, but I support and vote for this bill so the government can get involved in marriage."

Fucking what?

His logic is that the government shouldn't be issuing marriage licenses at all, which only makes sense if it had no civil repercussions like bank accounts and taxes. Basically, he's a moron.

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The Flood / Re: You live in the first world
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:51:05 PM »
Yes, mental illness can totally be reasoned away. Fucking idiots not magically overcoming a crippling disorder.

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The Flood / Re: Describe your first sexual experience
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:46:51 PM »
It went a little something like this:

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Gaming / Re: will mester chef be killed off?
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:29:24 PM »
He should never have been brought back after Halo 3.

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Serious / Re: PSYOPS does some fucked up shit
« on: March 19, 2015, 04:56:46 PM »
PSYOPs is easily one of the best tactics we have against insurgency. The Battle of Fallujah is an awesome, and sometimes hilarious, example. Prior to the invasion, they used flares and loudspeakers at night to prevent the insurgents from sleeping. To lure insurgents out, they played mocking messages ("you fight like girls", laughter, etc.) over loudspeakers; anyone that stepped outside was shot immediately by snipers. They played fake insurgent calls for surrender to get them to lay down their guns (and then they'd be shot), white phosphorous attacks to demoralize fighters, etc.

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white phosphorous attacks to demoralize fighters
I know it's effective as all hell, but I really don't think we should still be using that stuff >_>

It undermines the whole 'We are right' stance when it comes to looking for WMDs and giving other countries shit for chemical weapons stockpiles when NATO/USA(UK?) uses WP like that.

It's not actually classified as a chemical weapon but as an incendiary. It was used to drive out insurgents from fortified positions that their artillery couldn't penetrate. I'm not a particular fan of its use but it does have legitimate applications, grisly though they might be.

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The Flood / Re: I cant have children...
« on: March 19, 2015, 03:29:07 PM »
FOR

HIM

IT

IS
I don't care. He's wrong for thinking that it's a bad thing.

He wants to have a biological child with his wife and carry on his legacy into future generations. Not everyone is a sad, whiny, misanthropic loser like you are Verbatim.
YEAH DUDE PEOPLE WHO ADOPT ARE SAD WHINY LOSERS, ADOPTED CHILDREN ARE OBVIOUSLY INFERIOR TO BIOLOGICAL CHILDREN

go fuck yourself

I think he's referring to Verb's outlook on life, not adoption...

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this is the only song that i like

they don't sound anything like this anymore

That video is beautiful.

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The Flood / Re: Disproving evolution
« on: March 19, 2015, 03:07:02 PM »
They go to heaven to live with their lord and savior Beesus Christ.

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The Flood / Re: applying for student loans and i wanna cry
« on: March 19, 2015, 01:55:53 PM »
Maybe if you acted more like your parents and worked in the coal mines 90 hours a week and sucked the dean's dick twice a week (it's called a moneyshot for a reason), you wouldn't be in this situation. This generation just wants everything handed to them on a silver platter. Life doesn't just hand you things without you gargling a few balls every now and then.

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Serious / Re: PSYOPS does some fucked up shit
« on: March 19, 2015, 01:45:50 PM »
PSYOPs is easily one of the best tactics we have against insurgency. The Battle of Fallujah is an awesome, and sometimes hilarious, example. Prior to the invasion, they used flares and loudspeakers at night to prevent the insurgents from sleeping. To lure insurgents out, they played mocking messages ("you fight like girls", laughter, etc.) over loudspeakers; anyone that stepped outside was shot immediately by snipers. They played fake insurgent calls for surrender to get them to lay down their guns (and then they'd be shot), white phosphorous attacks to demoralize fighters, etc.

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Serious / Re: Oklahoma is making atheist marriages illegal
« on: March 19, 2015, 07:32:42 AM »
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‘Marriage was not instituted by government,’ said Rep. Dennis Johnson, who backed the bill.

‘It was instituted by God. There is no reason for Oklahoma or any state to be involved in marriage.’

I feel like there should be some sort of oversight committee in congress that can quickly recall representatives that clearly have no understanding of the basic tenets of our laws.

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The Flood / Re: Combine 2 random words off the top of your head.
« on: March 19, 2015, 01:13:59 AM »
HurtfulTurkey

Fuck.

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Serious / Re: Netflix manipulated the Net Neutrality deal
« on: March 19, 2015, 01:10:13 AM »
No worries, man, your reply was really good. I definitely support net neutrality, I'm just wary of sweeping government control of it. I I had no idea about the author's running bias on the subject, and I really appreciate the insight you gave in your first reply.

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Serious / Re: Netflix manipulated the Net Neutrality deal
« on: March 19, 2015, 12:03:39 AM »

It proves my point (and Jenkins wrong) by stating the facts that Comcast and the other telecoms of intentionally and consistently violating the principles of net neutrality, despite the regulations designed to ensure that that concept is upheld. It is proof of why it is imperative that net neutrality exist and be enforced.
I'd hesitate to label relatively isolated, and subsequently punished, incidents of exploitation as consistent and widespread. I'd hardly say that claim is a platform from which the rules of net neutrality can be torn down -- rather, it shows that there already exists tools to combat these problems. Reclassifying broadband internet as a utility is unarguably a massive shift from what anyone was expecting, or asking for. Also, the author isn't claiming ISPs will naturally allow net neutrality without regulation -- that was a quote by the CEO of Netflix before they flipped their position.
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Every incident are simply the reasons why your argument against the necessity of net neutrality (and the claim that it is somehow 'draconian') is objectively wrong.
I'm a little confused. Where is this argument you say I have against net neutrality? This thread and article is discussing Netflix's gamble to achieve a more advantageous position in the market. They want the back-end of the network to be hamstrung while they negotiate a deal with last-mile ISPs.

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Why isn't this posted in Serious?

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The Flood / Re: What would it take for you to join the army?
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:37:26 PM »
An invasion of the United Stated mainland. I'd probably go for the marines though.
....Problem with US doctrine is that it's highly offensive. I don't see how being a Marine would be useful for defending the US mainland. Unless you defend by attacking.

Army would be better.

I imagine the Marines would be used to attack FOBs setup by the invading force while the Army defends fortified positions. Marines are more quickly deployed, and don't require Congressional approval to be used by the President, so they'd be a first line of defense. That is assuming, of course, that the invasion force isn't royally buttfucked by submarines, artillery, air strikes, and cruise missiles first.
Yes, Navy would be the best, since they'd probably stop any invading force before they get halfway across the ocean. And I didn't know that Marines could be deployed without Congressional approval. That's... interesting.

The president can deploy any of the military without Congressional approval for 60 days, but the Navy is always deployed, the Air Force is similar, and the Army is all about hunkering down and kicking ass from a fortified front. The Marines are best-suited to responding quickly.

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The Flood / Re: What would it take for you to join the army?
« on: March 18, 2015, 10:33:02 PM »
An invasion of the United Stated mainland. I'd probably go for the marines though.
....Problem with US doctrine is that it's highly offensive. I don't see how being a Marine would be useful for defending the US mainland. Unless you defend by attacking.

Army would be better.

I imagine the Marines would be used to attack FOBs setup by the invading force while the Army defends fortified positions. Marines are more quickly deployed, and don't require Congressional approval to be used by the President, so they'd be a first line of defense. That is assuming, of course, that the invasion force isn't royally buttfucked by submarines, artillery, air strikes, and cruise missiles first.

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Serious / Re: Netflix manipulated the Net Neutrality deal
« on: March 18, 2015, 09:34:48 PM »
I like the Wall Street Journal, but their editorials on net neutrality are preposterously in favor of the telecoms and often factually challenged. This guy and Henninger (a Fox News contributor, which should say plenty about his motives) are the worst.

From another one of Jenkins' articles:
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As the Internet has evolved, net-neut paranoia increasingly has rested on fears of what broadband providers could do, not what they are likely to do or have commercial motive to do.
History shows that this is completely, utterly false. (Three links there, FYI--and notice how many times Comcast shows up)

I think his point is that a lot of what this heavy-handed regulation covers are things that are not economy viable. The examples you provided show Comcast repeatedly being fined and publicly criticized. I'm not sure how your links prove anything except that there were already regulations in place to address these issues, making the decision to make broadband internet a utility unnecessary.

Regardless, the point of the thread is to highlight the influence of these companies on the decision, and much of the outcry was fabricated for a special interest group.

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Serious / Re: Thomas Sowell: Why welfare doesn't work.
« on: March 18, 2015, 06:08:57 PM »
Thomas Sowell is a wonderful economist. He recently wrote a very good (and short) article about the destructive nature of good intentions in the welfare system.

http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2015/03/18/ruinous-compassion-n1971563

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Windows 8 was great, and 8.1 was an improvement. I think a lot of people that complain about it haven't even switched yet. So many complaints about the metro desktop or the tablet interface, yet all of that is completely optional to use. The search system is leagues better than Windows 7, the repair tools actually fix shit on a regular basis, the ribbon interface across the platform is very intuitive and useful, and it's great to have a uniform style throughout their products.

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Serious / Re: Netflix manipulated the Net Neutrality deal
« on: March 18, 2015, 05:10:34 PM »
I'm not sure why they placed an opinion piece behind a paywall, that seems a bit silly tbh.

Holman Jenkins is a columnist for the WSJ. It's under the Opinion section, but isn't under the same category as their third-party/reader opinion pieces. Plus, most of the WSJ content is behind the subscription wall to begin with.

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The Flood / Re: Do any of you own a turntable?
« on: March 18, 2015, 03:18:22 PM »
Wait wait wait, you left Arizona already? YOU FAGGOT NO

Yeah, a couple months ago. Don't worry, when I fly back to visit I'll be sure to let you know and we'll awkwardly avoid each other until I leave again.

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The Flood / Re: so this must be what Scientology is all about huh
« on: March 18, 2015, 02:08:55 PM »
Damn, that gorilla was losing his mind up there.

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Serious / Netflix manipulated the Net Neutrality deal
« on: March 18, 2015, 01:54:21 PM »
I'm normally not a fan of just pasting a whole article into a thread, and would typically pull out quotes that are important to an argument, but the entirety of the article is quoted below, since it's behind a paywall:

http://www.wsj.com/articles/holman-jenkins-netflix-is-the-culprit-1426633943

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About that Netflix flip-flop, it’s worse than you think.

On Jan. 14, 2014, the D.C. circuit court threw out an existing net-neutrality rule put in place by the Federal Communications Commission, and Netflix CEO Reed Hastings rushed to assure investors the ruling was a nonevent. In the absence of an official net-neutrality rule, the likelihood of broadband operators blocking access or slowing down Netflix was nil.

“Part of delivering and expanding [the broadband business] for consumers,” he explained, “is having a really good Netflix experience, a good YouTube experience. That’s why people get higher-speed broadband. So I think actually our economic interests are pretty co-aligned.”

Ted Sarandos, Netflix’s programming guru, added that if Internet carriers “were to contemplate blocking Netflix or other services, it will significantly fuel the fire for more regulation, which is not something they are interested in.”

Netflix elaborated in a letter to shareholders filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission: “[Internet services providers] are generally aware of the broad public support for net neutrality and don’t want to galvanize government action. Moreover, ISPs have very profitable broadband businesses they want to expand. Consumers purchase higher bandwidth packages mostly for one reason: high-quality streaming video. ISPs appear to recognize this and many of them are working closely with us and other streaming video services to enable the ISPs’ subscribers to more consistently get the high-quality streaming video consumers desire.”

People, this has been the adult view of net neutrality all along, and why intelligent persons have rightly called federal regulation a solution in search of a problem.

Then why, a month after this deluge of demurrers, did Netflix change its tune radically and call for utility regulation of even the upstream “network of networks,” which previously had not been considered part of the net-neutrality debate?

Because Netflix was then rolling out its own network, Open Connect, to bypass the public network in favor of direct tie-ups with last-mile providers like Comcast,Verizon and AT&T. This largely ignored story has been told in detail by a disparate group of analysts and lawyers including Dan Rayburn,Larry Downes,Jonathan Lee and Fred Campbell. Netflix effectively engineered a slowdown of its own service in late 2013 by relying on an intermediary with inadequate capacity, then waved a bloody shirt in pursuit of the direct-connection deals that today allow Netflix to distribute its content more efficiently and cheaply.

At least now we understand the famous but nearly indecipherable remarks of Netflix CFO David Wells at a Morgan Stanley media conference two weeks ago. To wit, Netflix had been happy to flog the net-neutrality meme while negotiating these agreements, Mr. Wells indicated, and then unhappy when the FCC took its rhetoric seriously and imposed sweeping Title II regulation.

And no wonder: Netflix can hardly be in favor of anything that curbs its own freedom to run its business as it sees fit. Yet the FCC’s “reclassification” of the Internet as a public utility potentially does exactly that.

The same miscalculation, by the way, was made by Google, Apple, Microsoft and other Silicon Valley smarties who kept their heads down as the traditional net-neut talking point morphed into a demand for utility regulation. They didn’t want to risk their images in a political brawl with lefty pro-regulation groups, so they kept silent and relied on the Obama administration and FCC Chairman Tom Wheeler to act responsibly. That was a bad bet.

Mr. Wheeler knows Title II is unnecessary and undesirable, but apparently felt it would be a personal defeat if he did not deliver something once the president had nosily intervened in favor of the “strongest possible” rules. Then, the only FCC majority available was three Democrats marching in lockstep with the president toward utility regulation.

Men spend their lives in Washington waiting for such a moment. Mr. Obama wasn’t going to come over and beat him up if he effectively scuttled the rulemaking and sent it back to the drawing board. But Mr. Wheeler, at age 68, was not ready for responsibility and so waved Title II through rather than risk standing alone and taking the heat.

In the Abilene Paradox (look it up), a group drives to Abilene for lunch because each thinks the others think it’s a good idea. Net-neut politics has now witlessly deposited the country in Abilene. It will be an expensively bought lesson for Google, Apple and others who flunked their civic responsibility to participate in an important public debate. And their schooling isn’t over.

tl;dr

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Netflix effectively engineered a slowdown of its own service in late 2013 by relying on an intermediary with inadequate capacity, then waved a bloody shirt in pursuit of the direct-connection deals that today allow Netflix to distribute its content more efficiently and cheaply.
Then other tech giants, as well as the administration and the FCC Chairman, remained quiet to avoid being singled-out against regulatory action.
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In the Abilene Paradox (look it up), a group drives to Abilene for lunch because each thinks the others think it’s a good idea. Net-neut politics has now witlessly deposited the country in Abilene. It will be an expensively bought lesson for Google, Apple and others who flunked their civic responsibility to participate in an important public debate. And their schooling isn’t over.

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Gaming / Re: ESO on PS4
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:37:03 PM »
The only way I would consider playing that is if it went the route of WoW where you can rapidly level to the top to explore end-game content.
So paying to not play the game

Paying? I'm referring to how quickly you can level up to endgame content now, not purchasing the levels. As in, skipping hundreds of fetch quests to explore the actual plot and meat of the game.

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Serious / Re: Netanyahu declares victory
« on: March 18, 2015, 08:00:00 AM »
It's unfortunate that he's resolved to not entertain a two-state policy in the future, though.
I wouldn't either, given the current state of Palestine.

Nothing will happen--nor should it happen--until Hamas is crushed under the Israelis' boot.

I agree, but his stance is that he'll won't see it happen while he's in office.

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Serious / Re: ITER: Star in a bottle nuclear reactor
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:38:58 AM »
I'd really like to just see fission become widely used. Yeah the waste is a bit inconvenient, but it can be safely stored in a pit of dirt, completely harmless. Fusion is a long way off, and we need alternate energy now.

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Serious / Re: ITER: Star in a bottle nuclear reactor
« on: March 18, 2015, 12:22:23 AM »
As long as the reactor runs, then I wouldn't be surprised if it could power itself and it's own functions.

Well yeah, that's called a critical reaction. You want a reaction that's self-sustaining, so you don't have to keep providing input energy to the system. The heat is a good thing; that's how you convert the chemical energy of the reaction to electrical energy we can use. The heat superheats a pool of water which is pumped through a steam system, just like a fission reactor. Fusion is just another method of creating that heat. It's not like it's going to immediately melt everything in the room; the fuel is precisely measured to output exactly as much heat as they desire.
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they have to keep the magnets frozen so that they don't melt, because as stated, there is no physical substance on the planet that can withstand that heat or that process on direct contact
Reread what you said. Nothing can withstand that heat, yet they're using supercooled materials in the chamber? So something can withstand the heat? Like I said, because of the low density of the plasma, it's not at all the same as say, touching a comparably hot piece of metal. The heat is transferred very inefficiently.

Let's just clear this up: the heat is a good thing, and the materials can withstand it.

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