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Done.

Apparently it's actually being used in physical therapy and some seniors olympics, so...there's that.

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But the law is not like the other 19 (At least?) states. Compare the language yourself.

I've read it. Nowhere does it explicitly apply to disputes between private citizens. In fact, the word 'citizen' isn't even in the text, and 'private' only refers to private employers, in which it states the bill doesn't give cause to private employees. It very explicitly states it's relating to government entities.

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    Perfect - so most of the people who advocated for this law!

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    Deuteronomy 22:28-29 describes how an unmarried woman who had been raped must marry her attacker.

    I would hate for them to discriminate against me since they must follow their religious beliefs to a tooth in order to run an appropriate business.

    Like I said, you have no idea what you're talking about. I knew where you were going with this, and I've refuted it numerous times here. First of all the, actual text is, "If a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and rapes her and they are discovered, he shall pay her father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the young woman, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives." In Ancient Israel, and every other Ancient Near East culture, women were considered a form of property, used to join families and barter marriages. A woman that was not a virgin was not considered valuable anymore, since her bartering value derived from the genetic joining of lineages. So when a woman was raped, she lost value, and the man got a slap on the wrist. This law, however, states that if a guy raped a woman, he would be forced to pay more than half a year's wages to the family and marry her, if she chose. Why would a woman choose to marry her rapist? Because he would provide protection through his family, and her own family as well. It was a punishment for him, and protection for her. Of course, she could choose not to marry him. And even more obviously, we don't live in Ancient Israel so it has no bearing on modern Christians.

    And Part #2 of not knowing what you're talking about:
    • This bill is currently federal law, enacted by Bill Clinton
    • This bill has been upheld in another state by the Supreme Court
    • This bill applies religious protection only against government actions, not private citizens, so the entire bakery example is completely irrelevant and is not protected by this bill
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    I've edited out that final /list three times now and it keeps coming back. Not sure how to format it properly.

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    I'd personally like a wedding cake for the marriage between me and the girl that I raped. Surely a bakery must oblige to that, since it is stated in their holy text that it is a form of acceptable marriage.
    Well I guess if you find a bakery run by people whose religion states that raped girls have to marry their rapists, you're in luck.
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    See how stupid this argument can become if we base legal business practices on definitions and scriptures that are thousands of years old?
    I see how stupid it can become when you have no idea what you're talking about, yes.

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    Serious / Re: Antarctica hits highest ever recorded temperature
    « on: March 30, 2015, 06:33:29 PM »


    Stop oppressing people, Meta.

    6396
    The Flood / Re: Are you a Country or a City Person?
    « on: March 30, 2015, 06:30:47 PM »
    Suburbs on the outside of a city.

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    Serious / Re: UKIP isn't the real British party for freedom
    « on: March 30, 2015, 06:22:30 PM »
    "I'm sure you enjoyed that..."


    No. No I didn't.

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    Genuine question:

    I know the Bible says gays aren't cool. But what exactly is the religious belief where you're not allowed to serve/interact/share a community with gays?

    There isn't one. Like I said earlier in the thread, it's not about not wanting to serve gay people, it's about not wanting to participate in activities which are contrary to one's convictions.
    ..but if there isn't anything about denying services to gays in your religion, then it isn't a violation of your religious freedom.

    Surely you can see how being legally obligated to perform a service for a cause that is highly contradictory to one's convictions is a violation of that freedom.

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    The Flood / Re: if light travels faster than sound
    « on: March 30, 2015, 09:38:34 AM »
    >reposting from Reddit

    6400
    Serious / Re: b-b-but muh p-patriarchy
    « on: March 30, 2015, 09:37:20 AM »
    Couldn't this be spun to say that society subconsciously thinks women aren't as capable so they have to go easier on grading? AKA patriarchy.

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    The Flood / Re: Favorite cereal?
    « on: March 30, 2015, 09:24:44 AM »

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    The Flood / Re: Reminder that Satan is the good guy
    « on: March 30, 2015, 09:22:52 AM »
    I'm a Pantheist

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    Praise Greasus

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    The Flood / Re: Reminder that Satan is the good guy
    « on: March 30, 2015, 09:20:16 AM »
    Yeah, when I think of someone with direct access to an omnipotent being, control over the entire world, and freedom to do literally anything except a single thing, I think 'thought-slave'.

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    Not that I don't think the story of Adam and Eve is allegorical.

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    The Flood / Re: hey Muslims
    « on: March 30, 2015, 01:21:55 AM »

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    The Flood / Re: multiple orgasm
    « on: March 30, 2015, 01:15:23 AM »
    For women?

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    The Flood / Re: I had my first beer today. AMA
    « on: March 29, 2015, 10:52:26 PM »
    i'm just saying, why does it matter what someone chooses to drink

    it's just such an asinine thing to ask, like, "what kind of car do you drive"

    who cares

    I do, because I like to explore different beers and wanted to ask what OP's first experience was. It helps you learn more about someone. Just because you don't an interest in something doesn't mean others share that sentiment. To say 'it's all alcohol' or whatever you said is really the only asinine thing about this; it's so self-explanatory why someone might present an interest in this topic that I know you don't actually fail to grasp this, you're just doing that thing where you act so above something that you pretend to not be cognizant of it at all, like you're beyond such a base action of drinking beer. It's kind of frustrating, actually, for one of the few people on here with a passion for discussing their beliefs and the cogency to not sound like a child, to have such a flippant attitude to such a harmless question.

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    The Flood / Re: I had my first beer today. AMA
    « on: March 29, 2015, 10:31:09 PM »
    Why did you choose beer over an ale?

    Ales are beer.

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    The Flood / Re: I had my first beer today. AMA
    « on: March 29, 2015, 10:29:29 PM »

    What beer did you have?
    "Blue Moon"?

    Oh, Blue Moon's pretty good. Not a typical beer flavor (Belgian beers aren't as popular as domestic ales and lagers), but a good choice for a first beer.

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    The Flood / Re: I had my first beer today. AMA
    « on: March 29, 2015, 10:11:33 PM »
    What beer did you have?

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    It would be massively inefficient to put a thorium reactor in a car for the same reason you don't have a petroleum refinery built into your internal combustion engine. When thorium reactors finally gain traction, they'll be used in power plants to power, among every other electronic device, battery-powered cars.

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    Serious / Re: The Iraq War
    « on: March 29, 2015, 09:39:53 PM »
    But does "Mission Accomplished" somehow not imply the end of operations?

    No...it doesn't. I have no idea what compels you to think that the first mission of the war constitutes its entirety.

    It was a war fought for oil.

    Yeah, just look at oil price trends during the war. We sure got our money's worth, there!

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    "Marijuana creates this dialectical pattern of reconcilable estrangement"

    Oh ffs, getting high is fun and you want it to be legal. Don't hide behind words you can't even pronounce.

    Also, this guy:


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    The Flood / Re: Disrespectful wedding drama
    « on: March 29, 2015, 08:17:57 PM »
    I didn't allow small children at my wedding, either. It's pretty douchey to go against the request of the bride and groom, and if someone had brought their kid, my ushers wouldn't have seated them. They'd be asked to wait outside of the sanctuary until the ceremony was over.

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    The Flood / Re: So what's after Mythic?
    « on: March 29, 2015, 06:57:26 PM »
    "HurtfulTurkey".

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    For now, the automatic deceleration can be overridden by pressing firmly on the accelerator. Amusingly, you can also tell the car to decelerate to 5mph above the speed limit—so you can actively choose to do 35 in a 30 if you so wish.

    Yeah, that sounds safe. Driving on an interstate at 80mph, having your car suddenly let off the gas, then having to smash the pedal down, all potentially in traffic. No way that could go wrong.

    Edit: It's in Europe, so convert mph to stones per fortnight or whatever they use over there.

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    To be fair, at the beginning of each Disney movie there's typically some sort of tragedy resulting in the loss of multiple family members. In the end of Up, Carl and Russel are basically a family.

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    Genuine question:

    I know the Bible says gays aren't cool. But what exactly is the religious belief where you're not allowed to serve/interact/share a community with gays?

    There isn't one. Like I said earlier in the thread, it's not about not wanting to serve gay people, it's about not wanting to participate in activities which are contrary to one's convictions. A religious person may not support gay marriage, so they don't want to contribute to one, hence the disparity between a birthday cake and a wedding cake; they would make the former, but not the latter. Another example would be a liberal-leaning business refusing to cater for a conservative rally or meeting.

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    Serious / Re: AWWWWWWWWWWWW SSHHHHHHIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETTTTT
    « on: March 29, 2015, 05:00:25 PM »
    Putin has no right to appropriate the culture of those beautiful, strong, independent brown people.

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    The Flood / Re: Palm Sunday will now be known as Rape Day.
    « on: March 29, 2015, 04:58:59 PM »

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