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The Flood / Re: For you Star Wars Figure collectors
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:20:03 PM »
So is LucasFilms hiring 11 year olds to design their toys now?
Have you never seen anything from Play Arts Kai?

I haven't.

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Gaming / Re: Locke Shows up on Cheif's HUD as Friendly
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:14:52 PM »
That little dot on the radar is just part of the pillar. Neither one of them shows up on the other's radar.



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That little dot on the radar is just part of the pillar.

Rewatched the video and when it cuts to his visor the second time, there's no dot. It's there momentarily in the first shot.

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Gaming / Re: Locke Shows up on Cheif's HUD as Friendly
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:09:34 PM »
That little dot on the radar is just part of the pillar. Neither one of them shows up on the other's radar.

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The Flood / Re: Sep7agon Podcast: Ask your questions here!
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:05:05 PM »
Why isn't the podcast just 1 hour of Meta talking about economics?

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The Flood / Re: For you Star Wars Figure collectors
« on: March 31, 2015, 11:02:54 PM »
So is LucasFilms hiring 11 year olds to design their toys now?

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Serious / Re: Serious personal question to LGBT users
« on: March 31, 2015, 10:25:46 PM »
Does it hurt her?

No.


I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that internalizing something as mundane as sexual orientation is very stressful, especially for someone already prone to depression, and feeling insecure about even telling a sibling does nothing but compound it.

We don't talk much, especially over the phone. It would be very unusual to casually bring it up in conversation. At that point I might as well just say I know.

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Serious / Serious personal question to LGBT users
« on: March 31, 2015, 09:33:54 PM »
A while ago I found out from my mom that my sister is a lesbian. She's really reserved about it and hasn't told many people -- more specifically, she hasn't come out to me yet. We had a rocky childhood together because she has Bipolar Disorder, and what I was told by my mom is that she doesn't think I'll accept her because she thinks I'm far more conservative than I am, largely because I'm religious and in the military. I've been supportive of gay marriage ever since I was mature enough to even consider it a political issue, but I generally don't broadcast political stuff. So my question to you is, how do you think I should go about talking to her about it? Should I wait until she tells me (which is difficult because I live across the country, and that doesn't seem like a phone call sort of thing), or tell her myself? The thing is, she told my parents in confidence and I don't think it was particularly respectful of my mom to tell me, even though I asked her, because I've suspected for years.

Let me know what you think.

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Serious / Re: Boycotting states to protest legislation
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:11:37 PM »
I just want to point out that this thread was supposed to be about opinions regarding the boycotting of states because of bills they passed. I think the current topic has been beaten to death on Serious in the past.

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Serious / Re: Boycotting states to protest legislation
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:00:50 PM »
Ok, I think I made my way through it. Before I pick at any sections of it, what was happening in Indiana that provoked this bill to be written? Were the people of Indiana's freedom of religious expression and services being infringed upon?

They're following suit with many other states taking the federal RFRA law and applying it at a state level. I don't think it's in response to a particular set of incidents, though the ACA is largely what spurned the trend.
How could healthcare possibly infringe upon someone's religious freedom?

Contraception and abortion, I imagine.

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Serious / Re: Boycotting states to protest legislation
« on: March 31, 2015, 07:40:14 PM »
Ok, I think I made my way through it. Before I pick at any sections of it, what was happening in Indiana that provoked this bill to be written? Were the people of Indiana's freedom of religious expression and services being infringed upon?

They're following suit with many other states taking the federal RFRA law and applying it at a state level. I don't think it's in response to a particular set of incidents, though the ACA is largely what spurned the trend.

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Serious / Re: Boycotting states to protest legislation
« on: March 31, 2015, 07:21:38 PM »
Is there an ELI5 for this whole bill? I'd rather not read through the whole thing.

It's like 3 pages long. It basically says that the government can't place an undue burden on a business that is counter to its religious principles. It's basically the bill passed by the Clinton administration.

Liberal interpretation:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2015/03/what-makes-indianas-religious-freedom-law-different/388997/

Conservative interpretation:
http://thefederalist.com/2015/03/30/your-questions-on-indianas-religious-freedom-bill-answered/

Either way, I'm hoping we can discuss whether you think the protests are valid, not the quality of the bill.

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Serious / Boycotting states to protest legislation
« on: March 31, 2015, 07:01:48 PM »
Alright, so with the Indiana religious freedom bill that recently passed, dozens of organizations have publicly declared a boycott of the state until the bill is overturned. This thread isn't to discuss the value of such bills, but the value of these boycotts. In my opinion, all this does is hurt the citizens of the state, compounding the same problem they're protesting.

Some big-hitters included in the Boycott:

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Connecticut: Governor Dannel Malloy has indicated he will sign an executive order limiting state-funded travel to Indiana as a result of the bill.
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Seattle: Mayor Ed Murray, who is gay, has slammed the bill as discriminatory and is banning all city-funded travel to the state.
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Disciples of Christ: The Indianapolis-based church has threatened to move its annual convention out of the the state in protest of the legislation. "As a Christian church, we are particularly sensitive to the values of the One we follow," said Disciple of Christ President Sharon Watkins, "one who sat at table with people from all walks of life, and loved them all.”
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Yelp: In a blog post, Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman wrote, "I hope that in the future the legislatures in the nineteen states that have these laws on the books will reconsider their actions. In the mean time, Yelp will make every effort to expand its corporate presence only in states that do not have these laws allowing for discrimination on the books."
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Wilco: On Monday, the Chicago-based indie band said it would cancel its upcoming show in Indianapolis in protest of the RFRA
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George Takei: The Star Trek actor, LGBT activist, and social media superstar called for a boycott of the state and accused Gov. Pence of pandering to a right-wing, Christian base that fundamentally misunderstands its own religious traditions. "I myself am a Buddhist, not a Christian. But I cannot help but think that if Christ ran a public establishment, it would be open to all," Takei noted. "He would be the last to refuse service to anyone. It is, simply put, the most un-Christian of notions."
Ironically enough, most of the more outspoken sources are also under the false assumption that the bill lets businesses discriminate against customers, including George Takei, who is notorious for parroting sensationalist headlines without researching the subject.

I can't really see how this does anything useful. Before this even began, the legislature had begun rewriting the bill to clarify its inability to justify discrimination.

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Serious / Re: Trans Pacific Partnership
« on: March 31, 2015, 06:51:45 PM »
Yeah, trade partnerships are good. From what I've read it doesn't seem like it'll have a huge impact on anything, really. About $100 billion per year, which is better than nothing. A bit disappointing after a decade of talks, though.

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Septagon / Re: thoughts about the PM system
« on: March 31, 2015, 06:19:38 PM »
This PM system is pretty bad. It's completely inaccessible on mobile, and having the inbox and outbox listed together is too cluttered.

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Gaming / Re: Spartan Sarah Palmer is Problematic
« on: March 31, 2015, 06:14:10 PM »
If this is going to be a recurring thing, it'd be nice to get new material for this site, rather than just copying an existant article.

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Is it just hyperbolic rhetoric for a speech? Any time a politician they're going to change something by 90%, it's pretty clearly just aggrandizement.

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and when i point out that truth to people, they get butthurt

so basically, they're crybabies

Well, no, you've repeatedly said that mods are stupid, making mods is stupid, playing mods is stupid, and that it's essentially playing the game "wrong". So at this point they're not upset that you don't like mods, they're upset that you're repeatedly insulting them in a very childish way. That doesn't make them crybabies, it just makes you a bit of an ass.

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The Flood / Re: Why do people drive like this?
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:31:18 PM »
I live in Florida. I haven't seen any geniuses, let alone any behind the wheel.

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The Flood / Re: OFFICIAL BOND ACTOR POWER RANKINGS
« on: March 31, 2015, 02:20:32 PM »
Sean Connery is the best Bond, both in character and movies. Craig is great in his movies, but he doesn't convey the panache that Bond had leading up to his movies. Outside of the names, Skyfall and Quantum of Solace (a terrible Bond film) could've been generic spy thrillers.

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I look for a thoroughly-researched, well-argued discussion in which John weighs opinions and both sides of the issue to come to a reasonable conclusion.


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Serious / Re: The Iraq War
« on: March 31, 2015, 09:53:04 AM »
Going in under the auspices of nuclear weapons was retarded. Would have been much easier to say they're going in to topple a horrible dictator who really did deserve to be taken out, so in that regard, I am all for it.
WMD's referred to chemical weapons, which were found, and we knew Saddam had because of the Kurdish genocide in which he gassed thousands of his own citizens. Though, the primary mission was to topple the regime for numerous human rights reasons.
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We ousted everyone in the Saddam government from the lowest, to highest levels, which only led to them rebelling and fighting us, we put the wrong people in power and they only divided people even more, and many other things.
The coalition didn't install anyone, it opened up the chance for democratic elections which went relatively well. The biggest issue was the later administration's unwillingness to continue working with the coalition.
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I honestly think 2,500 people died for a war that was poorly handled and managed. In other words, died for nothing.


Are you referring to 9/11? That had nothing to do with the Iraq war.

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Serious / Re: Britain First
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:44:22 AM »
"These cowards and bullies harassed a family into barricading themselves in a room. Now we're doing the same! ...For some reason."

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The Flood / Re: The 1911 is the katana of the gun world
« on: March 31, 2015, 08:25:32 AM »
Pretty sure George Washington crossed the Delaware to set the slaves free and personally executed Hitler with a 1911 on his side, and I know for a fact it is the go-to CCW for bald eagles.

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Serious / Re: A hypothetical question in regards to money/currency
« on: March 31, 2015, 07:53:20 AM »
Sounds like Star Trek, where they reached a sufficiently advanced technology to do away with currency and give everyone access to goods and services based on an intrinsic drive to contribute to society by working.

I don't think that would work any time soon. You'd have to see a global change and have enough resources to completely end hunger and poverty.

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Challenge accepted.

YouTube


Oh my

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The Flood / Re: what do you think of patty bieber
« on: March 30, 2015, 10:20:47 PM »
That whole outfit is a trainwreck.

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Can we watch the video? Do we actually know what its contents are?

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But the law is not like the other 19 (At least?) states. Compare the language yourself.

I've read it. Nowhere does it explicitly apply to disputes between private citizens. In fact, the word 'citizen' isn't even in the text, and 'private' only refers to private employers, in which it states the bill doesn't give cause to private employees. It very explicitly states it's relating to government entities.
So then what's the point if we already have the Civil Rights Act that prevents discrimination based on religion?
The Civil Rights Act prevents the government from withholding rights based on creed. This bill prevents the government from forcing businesses to provide services to them that are contrary to religious beliefs.

Wait, only relating to government entities?
So does the bill give business owners the right to refuse services based on religious beliefs or is this thread pointless?
This thread is pointless because nobody, including myself initially, actually read the bill.

Their objection is that the language isn't specific enough (despite being explicitly unrelated to private citizens), which is exactly what their legislature is addressing with the clarification process.

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