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I have zero problems with the concept of a for-profit university. They provide valuable services to people that are willing to pay, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just because your tuition isn't cut with taxpayer dollars doesn't make a degree worth any less.

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The Flood / Re: KAT or Piratebay?
« on: April 22, 2015, 04:56:33 PM »
Demonoid.

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While not making any excuses for this, "Islamic banking" is a very real thing in Arabic culture. It's a banking system based around honor and compassion that is a fundamental part of them doing business. One of its aspects is loans at a 0% interest rate, for example.

Obviously not saying that being a Muslim is a valid excuse to avoid interest, but she shouldn't just be called an idiot either. I could see that this might be a misunderstanding or something.

Pretty sure they can get into loans with interest, but Muslims aren't supposed to charge interest on what they loan out. Kind of like how it's not okay to murder someone, but saying you're Christian/Muslim/Jewish/etc. isn't an excuse to not get murdered...if that makes any sense.

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Gaming / Re: First (?) image of Battlefront actually being played
« on: April 22, 2015, 04:08:15 PM »
Looks like those are from the trailer, and they're undoubtedly in-engine, not in-game.

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Gaming / Re: Brain Age
« on: April 22, 2015, 03:49:48 PM »
I played the first one, but stuff like brain training has been debunked. Don't play it just because you think it's making you smarter.

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The Flood / Re: How much do you pay for your mobile plan?
« on: April 22, 2015, 03:39:05 PM »
I stayed on my parents plan because it's cheaper, and the cut I pay is $35.

Project Fi seems interesting but their LTE network is shitty.

Compare this:
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Google:

To this:
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Verizon:

No contest at all. Google can have all the cute ads it wants, its network is worse than T-Mobile and MetroPCS, so I wouldn't use it. Plus it only works with the Nexus 6. This is another case of Google launching a product way too early.

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The Flood / Re: Question about Darth Vader...
« on: April 22, 2015, 10:34:11 AM »
Because a chubby burned white guy is a lot less intimidating.

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Since sometime between Halo 1 and 2. 8 years at a conservative estimate.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 22, 2015, 06:40:00 AM »
I don't think there's any compelling evidence that he's mentally ill. He was coerced into terrorism by a role model taking advantage of him at a low point in his life, but that's not at all tantamount to brainwashing, either.

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I'm pretty ambivalent about the gender. As for sex, they'll never be recognized as the opposite sex because it's not possible now or in the foreseeable future to actually change sexes.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 08:31:31 PM »
If you've got a .gov link for me on that "federal investigation," or really any other link, I'm very interested, but as it stands I'm not convinced at all of his ideological innocence.

The counterterrorism investigation conclusions are covered in the WSJ article. Again though, regardless of whether he was radicalized long before the attack (which I maintain is demonstrably false) or whether it was galvanized immediately prior to the attack and after the death of his brother, the obvious ringleader, doesn't really matter. It doesn't affect the viability of a death sentence verdict.

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The Flood / Re: Imperial Center: The Star Wars Megathread
« on: April 21, 2015, 08:08:28 PM »
Are there any novels out right now, or just comics?

Canon novels out now are:
- A New Dawn (Leads into Star Wars Rebels)
- Tarkin ( A few years after III, but before A New Dawn)
- Heir to the Jedi (Between V and VI)

Upcoming Novels:
- Lords of the Sith in June (Vader and palpatine adventures)
- Dark Disciple in July (Ventress Arc in what would have been season 7 of The Clone Wars)

Awesome. Thanks for letting me be lazy. Have you read any of them? Are they worth reading?

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The Flood / Re: Imperial Center: The Star Wars Megathread
« on: April 21, 2015, 08:00:47 PM »
Are there any novels out right now, or just comics?

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Gaming / Re: Hunt the Truth- Episode 4
« on: April 21, 2015, 07:40:00 PM »
I really think they're dragging the story out too much. We already know about John's kidnapping at age 6 and the death of his flash clone. We already know ONI are some shady motherfuckers that are probably going to be more overtly villainous in the upcoming releases. They should be using this to explore facets of the lore that we don't already know, and instead they're giving us a (seemingly incompetent) reporter digging up established information at a painfully slow pace.
well yeah, obviously we all already know everything, that's what gives this story dramatic irony. the thing here is that this is something that's supposed to be a big secret in their universe- having ben blow this story wide open will have HUGE social/cultural effects in ONI-controlled areas. i think sully wants ben to be the one to expose this, but he has to tread lightly and sort of guide him to the truth instead of leading him there directly. and ben's not really a bad reporter at all- he has some great sources due to being in the outer colonies for so long. the only negatives are that he's a little too careless (using Waypoint- he didnt respect the hegemony of the ONI surveillance state until after that) and rusty after being out of the picture for so long.

I don't really believe that exposing the SPARTAN program would have any significant political or cultural impact. It unquestionably saved the human species, and they've already effectively pinned the blame on Halsey while simultaneously moving the program to a volunteer basis. I think the time for exploring the ethics of the Spartans was many years ago in the novels, but they failed in that aspect. At this point, after more than a decade of playing as Spartans and seeing them as the baddest mother fuckers around, whether it was wrong or right to kidnap 6 year olds is not a very compelling storyline. I guess others see it as such, but I don't.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 07:36:15 PM »
I've given you an overwhelming amount of information supporting my argument, and you have very very very little to stand on. Your only source is from 2013, and it's locked behind a paywall. Please, either take this seriously or leave. I don't appreciate you acting like a victim when I have been endlessly patient with you.

You've been far from patient, accusing me of trolling and not taking this seriously (despite my posts previously in this thread), and repeatedly posting the same links without making an actual argument from them (posting a link and expecting me to extrapolate your argument is bullshit I called out earlier in this thread, as well).

What you're claiming is evidence is the prosecution's argument. What I'm claiming is directly from an unbiased federal investigation. The entirety of the article:
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Counterterrorism officials increasingly believe Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was never truly radicalized, exposing a possible blind spot in U.S. strategies built to detect certain characteristics among would-be American jihadis.

After a month of intensive investigation, authorities, according to people involved in the case, have yet to find any actions by Mr. Tsarnaev before last month's attack that would have stood out as alarming—no frequent visits to jihadi websites, no violent rhetoric, no suspicious purchases.

Investigators are still piecing together the lives of the Tsarnaev brothers accused of the bombings, but what they have found so far about Dzhokhar, 19, and his 26-year-old brother, Tamerlan, suggest two different psychological profiles, according to the people involved.

Tamerlan's path to violence fits in the general framework of "homegrown" or "lone wolf" terrorists—a person largely isolated from society, with a fractured family structure, who gravitates to an ill-defined cause, counterterrorism officials said.

Any radicalization of Dzhokhar, by contrast, would have happened at the last minute, if at all, officials said. They described a suspect who looks more like an agreeable follower of his elder brother's instructions. Counterterrorism officials said they believe that without Tamerlan's involvement, no attack would have taken place. Without Dzhokhar's alleged involvement, they believe there still would have been some kind of violence committed by Tamerlan, who was killed a few days after the bombing in a confrontation with police.

The implications are significant for investigators trying to prevent future plots and for prosecutors preparing for the possibility of a death-penalty trial in which Dzhokhar's motives could help determine whether he lives or dies.

An attorney for Dzhokhar didn't return messages seeking comment. Dzhokhar has yet to offer a plea in court to the government's criminal charges.


If Dzhokhar's actions better fit the psychological profile of an ordinary criminal than a committed terrorist—as several officials said they now believe—the question remains why he allegedly was ready to kill so many without mercy. Video and photo images show him depositing a bomb-laden backpack near a crowd of onlookers near the finish line of the Boston Marathon on April 15, according to authorities. The blasts killed three and injured more than 260.

The brothers embarked on an alleged crime spree three nights later, and Dzhokhar is suspected of detonating at least one homemade bomb in the midst of the confrontation with police that left Tamerlan dead. Dzhokhar was captured the following evening, suffering from gunshot wounds. He is now recovering in a prison hospital, facing charges that could carry the death penalty.

In initial interrogations the weekend after his capture, Dzhokhar told investigators the brothers, who are from an ethnic Chechen and Muslim family, acted from jihadist motives and were angered by U.S. actions against Muslims, U.S. officials said. But while Dzhokhar discussed jihadi themes with his elder brother, his own life indicates little interest in them, they said.

Dzhokhar stopped answering questions after getting a lawyer and being told of his right to remain silent a week after the attack, officials said.

Investigators found the brothers downloaded videos from radical Muslim clerics, including the now-dead Anwar al-Awlaki, but even that activity was mostly done by the elder brother, according to officials.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and subsequent plots, U.S. officials have spread a wide net to thwart potential terrorist plans, monitoring radical websites and keeping in touch with community leaders who might pick up signs of trouble.

Some of those signs were present in the case of Tamerlan, but apparently nonexistent for his younger brother. As a result of the Tsarnaev case, "we will have to pick up on indicators more quickly," one official said.

Mary Ellen O'Toole, a former criminal profiler at the Federal Bureau of Investigation who isn't involved in the case, said there are several indications the younger brother was psychologically dependent on his elder brother. In their shootout with police, it was Tamerlan, not Dzhokhar, who fired their only gun, according to law-enforcement officials. Dr. O'Toole described that as an important detail suggesting the pecking order.

"In this case the older brother really does seem to be the ringleader, and it appears that what they did were his ideas, his fantasies, his desires, and the younger brother was probably more the follower," she said.

She said Tamerlan exhibited several traits associated with psychopaths, including assembling bombs in the same small apartment where his toddler daughter lived.

Friends described Dzhokhar as a jokey teenager who seemed to genuinely enjoy his life in America. At his college, the University of Massachusetts Dartmouth, the worst that fellow students would say about him was that he was a lackluster student.

Nabil Siddiqi, a recent UMass Dartmouth graduate who remains involved in the Muslim Student Association, recalled a time in January when Dzhokhar and several friends from Kazakhstan showed up at a weekly study circle, giggling and disturbing the discussion.

His freshman-year roommate, Jason Rowe, said Dzhokhar wore jeans and hoodies, liked hip-hop music and late-night Taco Bell. He didn't talk much about his family and was excited when he became a U.S. citizen.

Mr. Rowe saw no signs Dzhokhar held any extremist views. Mr. Rowe walked into the room once to find his roommate praying, but "other than that he didn't talk about religion." Added Mr. Rowe, 19: "He seemed very Americanized."

He was a homegrown terrorist under the leadership of his brother, and any radicalization would have occured in the immediate buildup to the attack, likely galvanized by his brother's death and what Dzhokhar likely interprets as persecution in an 'us vs. them' mentality of the U.S. government.

This discussion stemmed from your question if I would prefer his execution, which you claim is exactly what he wants (despite the plea of innocence, the denial of responsibility, the half-hearted radicalization, and the refusal to force arresting officers to kill him after the bombing). Frankly, he could be the most zealous Muslim on the face of the Earth and I would still say a personal belief has no grounds to impact a sentencing, and it doesn't matter what he wants. Terrorists that are engaged by coalition forces in the Middle East certainly want to be martyred, but we don't use that as an excuse to not kill them. That's no reason not to issue a death sentence, and so far nobody has made an argument from morality against his execution.

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Gaming / Re: Hunt the Truth- Episode 4
« on: April 21, 2015, 07:18:13 PM »
I really think they're dragging the story out too much. We already know about John's kidnapping at age 6 and the death of his flash clone. We already know ONI are some shady motherfuckers that are probably going to be more overtly villainous in the upcoming releases. They should be using this to explore facets of the lore that we don't already know, and instead they're giving us a (seemingly incompetent) reporter digging up established information at a painfully slow pace.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 07:11:18 PM »
Are you trolling? This is Serious.

Really not appreciating the attitude you're giving me. If you can't discuss this without acting like you're doing me a favor by posting every news link you find in Google, then we're done discussing it.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887324031404578483271912752356

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Counterterrorism officials increasingly believe Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev was never truly radicalized, exposing a possible blind spot in U.S. strategies built to detect certain characteristics among would-be American jihadis.
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After a month of intensive investigation, authorities, according to people involved in the case, have yet to find any actions by Mr. Tsarnaev before last month's attack that would have stood out as alarming—no frequent visits to jihadi websites, no violent rhetoric, no suspicious purchases.

Since the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks and subsequent plots, U.S. officials have spread a wide net to thwart potential terrorist plans, monitoring radical websites and keeping in touch with community leaders who might pick up signs of trouble.
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Some of those signs were present in the case of Tamerlan, but apparently nonexistent for his younger brother. As a result of the Tsarnaev case, "we will have to pick up on indicators more quickly," one official said.

"In this case the older brother really does seem to be the ringleader, and it appears that what they did were his ideas, his fantasies, his desires, and the younger brother was probably more the follower," she said.
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Mr. Rowe saw no signs Dzhokhar held any extremist views. Mr. Rowe walked into the room once to find his roommate praying, but "other than that he didn't talk about religion." Added Mr. Rowe, 19: "He seemed very Americanized."


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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 07:00:42 PM »
There is no evidence to suggest that the Death Penalty is an effective deterrent though.

Not to mention the astronomical costs the taxpayer has to bear the brunt of to try and get someone convicted for the death penalty. Bureaucracy isn't cheap funnily enough.

It's about punishment, not deterrent. I think Tsarnaev deserves to be executed for his participation in the bombing.

As for cost, while the trial for the death penalty is more expensive than a trial for life in prison, when you factor in the actual cost of incarcerating someone for life, it far exceeds that of the trial.

Regardless, justice shouldn't be meted out based on cost.
So you'd rather martyr him than lock him up in supermax for the rest of his natural life? That's exactly what he wants.

He clearly isn't in the mindset of martyrdom. He denies being responsible, denies his guilt, and has shifted blame to his brother. The general conclusion is that he was not acting upon radical Islamic beliefs, though his brother was.
No, that was the pathetic defense that his legal team worked up to try to get a lighter sentence.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/america-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-wrote-boat-officials/story?id=19193153#.UZUEJ7V318H
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boston-bombings-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-left-note-in-boat-he-hid-in-sources-say/
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/05/22/text-from-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-note-left-watertown-boat/KnRIeqqr95rJQbAbfnj5EP/story.html#

“I’m jealous of my brother who ha [re]ceived the reward of jannutul Firdaus (inshallah) before me. I do not mourn because his soul is very much alive. God has a plan for each person. Mine was to hide in this boat and shed some light on our actions. I ask Allah to make me a shahied (iA) to allow me to return to him and be among all the righteous people in the highest levels of heaven. He who Allah guides no one can misguide. A[llah Ak]bar!”

^ idk why this is struck through, and im not gonna reformat it

That wasn't his legal team, that was the conclusion of the federal investigation into his motives. He showed no signs of interest into radical Islam and was just following his brother's lead.
did you actually click any of my links? its really fucking obvious that that isnt the truth.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/04/06/397823682/boston-marathon-bombing-lawyers-make-closing-arguments
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/2015/04/06/the-why-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-focus-closing-statements/mSQqqluSH5FJwTP1g9KxfK/story.html


Yep, and the these new links do nothing but agree with the federal investigation's conclusion that he was not acting out of truly radicalized beliefs.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 06:51:23 PM »
There is no evidence to suggest that the Death Penalty is an effective deterrent though.

Not to mention the astronomical costs the taxpayer has to bear the brunt of to try and get someone convicted for the death penalty. Bureaucracy isn't cheap funnily enough.

It's about punishment, not deterrent. I think Tsarnaev deserves to be executed for his participation in the bombing.

As for cost, while the trial for the death penalty is more expensive than a trial for life in prison, when you factor in the actual cost of incarcerating someone for life, it far exceeds that of the trial.

Regardless, justice shouldn't be meted out based on cost.
So you'd rather martyr him than lock him up in supermax for the rest of his natural life? That's exactly what he wants.

He clearly isn't in the mindset of martyrdom. He denies being responsible, denies his guilt, and has shifted blame to his brother. The general conclusion is that he was not acting upon radical Islamic beliefs, though his brother was.
No, that was the pathetic defense that his legal team worked up to try to get a lighter sentence.

http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/america-boston-marathon-bomb-suspect-wrote-boat-officials/story?id=19193153#.UZUEJ7V318H
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boston-bombings-suspect-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-left-note-in-boat-he-hid-in-sources-say/
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/05/22/text-from-dzhokhar-tsarnaev-note-left-watertown-boat/KnRIeqqr95rJQbAbfnj5EP/story.html#

“I’m jealous of my brother who ha [re]ceived the reward of jannutul Firdaus (inshallah) before me. I do not mourn because his soul is very much alive. God has a plan for each person. Mine was to hide in this boat and shed some light on our actions. I ask Allah to make me a shahied (iA) to allow me to return to him and be among all the righteous people in the highest levels of heaven. He who Allah guides no one can misguide. A[llah Ak]bar!”

^ idk why this is struck through, and im not gonna reformat it

That wasn't his legal team, that was the conclusion of the federal investigation into his motives. He showed no signs of interest into radical Islam and was just following his brother's lead.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 21, 2015, 06:42:04 PM »
There is no evidence to suggest that the Death Penalty is an effective deterrent though.

Not to mention the astronomical costs the taxpayer has to bear the brunt of to try and get someone convicted for the death penalty. Bureaucracy isn't cheap funnily enough.

It's about punishment, not deterrent. I think Tsarnaev deserves to be executed for his participation in the bombing.

As for cost, while the trial for the death penalty is more expensive than a trial for life in prison, when you factor in the actual cost of incarcerating someone for life, it far exceeds that of the trial.

Regardless, justice shouldn't be meted out based on cost.
So you'd rather martyr him than lock him up in supermax for the rest of his natural life? That's exactly what he wants.

He clearly isn't in the mindset of martyrdom. He denies being responsible, denies his guilt, and has shifted blame to his brother. The general conclusion is that he was not acting upon radical Islamic beliefs, though his brother was.

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Gaming / Re: New Agent Locke trailer
« on: April 20, 2015, 05:37:05 PM »
That was like a high-budget episode of RvB.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 19, 2015, 11:10:53 PM »
Literally three scrolls down:
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Costs of Incarceration: $1 billion since 1978:

An official within the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation estimated that housing death row inmates costs California an additional $90,000 annually per inmate. Accounting for inflation and the number of inmates on death row each year since 1978, this estimate would indicate that CA has spent an additional $1.02 billion in housing death row inmates since 1978.
Again, it aids to the discussion if you actually read my links.
Okay, so this is what you should have quoted initially. It's called a citation. They're really neat. Don't link a long article and get indignant when I repeatedly ask you to pull out specific information you're using in an argument.

Anyways, that citation doesn't say anything about a $90,000 cost above a typical life sentence, it says it costs an additional $90,000 each. How much did it cost to house an inmate for life in 1978? This is what I'm talking about, an actual comparison. What you've linked is not useful, and it's obscenely outdated.

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And beyond that, I've said numerous times that the relative cost of a viable sentence shouldn't factor into the decision to carry it out, since that has already been weighed by the legislature.
And again I ask you, why not, since it has utterly failed as a deterrence, has had innocent people killed, and has cost the taxpayer more in both incarceration and conviction?
You're asking me to relate cost to numerous other consequences, which is absurd. The cost of the sentence has nothing to do with the number of innocent people sentenced to death, nor the effect of deterrence.

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For the third time, you can argue with me all day about costs
If you stop cherrypicking my posts and electing to ignore sections of my links, you'll notice that I have argued against the death penalty for more than just the rationality of cost.


I ignored the first link in that last post because, for what I believe is the fifth time in this thread, I'm telling you that I am not, nor have I ever, contested the fact that death penalty cases cost more than life sentence cases. I'm not ignoring sections of the links, I'm repeatedly asking you to make an argument instead of copying and pasting a link from Google and telling me to interpret yourself, as if it's my responsibility to make your argument for you. Regardless, you repeatedly come back to points that I have time and time against told you are irrelevant to our discussion.

You've made no compelling argument for why Tsarnaev should not be executed, except that sometimes innocent people are sentences to death and it may or may not cost more than a life sentence, which in the order of magnitude of millions of dollars is basically irrelevant. The guy bombed a marathon and maimed hundreds of people, and I believe among the available punishments, death is the most appropriate. Maybe someday in the future the death sentence will be revoked entirely; I hope we see that someday. But right now, for this case, I think he deserves to die.

Interpret it how you will, but I'm heading to bed and I probably won't continue this discussion because we seem to be talking about two separate facets of the issue, and we've repeated the same posts three times now.

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Situations in which Batman wins against Superman are the most contrived shit in all of comic book history.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:38:23 PM »
The crux of what a punishment attempts to do is essentially deterrence, though.
I don't agree with this. In a general sense we set punishments to persuade people from doing bad things, but in a courtroom setting where the punishment has clearly failed to deter an action, then the sole point of it is to punish. Life in prison clearly didn't deter the bombing, so should we be throwing it out, too?
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And FYI, my recent links have directed you to the facts. It helps if you read my previous post.

I did, and I looked in your site. You made the claim that death penalty incarceration costs more than life in prison, and brief search through it yielded nothing of the sort. As I already stated at least three times in this conversation, I don't disagree that costs of death penalty trials cost more; I don't need more links for that. I would prefer links showing costs of incarceration in a comparison, which your second link doesn't do. And beyond that, I've said numerous times that the relative cost of a viable sentence shouldn't factor into the decision to carry it out, since that has already been weighed by the legislature.
 
For the third time, you can argue with me all day about costs, and I'll agree with you that to try a death penalty case costs more. What I am saying is that Tsarnaev's crime justifies the death penalty.

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I'm sure it's fake, but that's basically DA:I in space.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 19, 2015, 10:17:31 PM »
Mordo, obviously the death penalty system is flawed and inefficient, but that's largely due to the need for certainty. In this case, there's no question Tsarnaev is guilty. We're not talking about solitary confinement, and we're not talking about the death penalty as a deterrent; I think the name itself exposes it as primarily a punishment instead of a deterrent.

The guy is responsible for several deaths and hundreds of maimed victims. If the court rules that he is to be sentenced to death, I'll support that, even in light of potentially higher costs, though the preponderance of what I've seen is that the cost for cases are higher, but often exclude cost of incarceration, and so far you've done nothing but link sites without actually presenting facts from those sites. I agree that death penalties cost more typically; I've argued that on this site. I don't agree with the death penalty as a punishment for average crimes including murder and rape. In this case, the case of terrorism resulting in hundreds of casualties, I would agree with it. We can talk about the fallacies of the current system all you want, and I'm not going to argue against those. This case is exceptional to those discussions, to me.

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A reminder that we're talking about this guy:
YouTube

Big deal, he uses humor in his reviews. He's playing a character, you know...

I know, he's hilarious. But that's the point, he's there to rile people up; he's not the word of law on what is and isn't good film content.

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 19, 2015, 08:23:23 PM »
Losing basic liberties is punishment enough.
That's an opinion, and I disagree with it.
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If there was evidence that proved capital punishment kept criminality down, I'd be in support of it.
Lack of evidence =/= lack of correlation, and here it's a punishment, rather than a deterrent.
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Having the state execute someone because muh justice isn't good enough for me, however.
Okay, well memes aside, all criminal sentences are a result of 'muh justice'. You saying that isn't at all an adequate refutation of the idea that a guy that maimed hundreds of civilians and pleads not guilty doesn't deserve the harshest punishment available.
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Not to mention over 150 innocent people have died on death row.
Alrighty, so either this is a non sequitur or you're claiming that Tsarnaev could possibly be innocent.
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Incorrect. Maintaining death row prisoners costs the taxpayer $90,000 more per year than a prisoner in the general population.

When citing something, it helps to actually quote what you're referring to. I can't find "90,000" in the text, and searching for "per year" doesn't help. The conclusion also doesn't state anything like that. Regardless, the meting out of justice shouldn't be hinged on cost when comparing two viable alternatives.

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A reminder that we're talking about this guy:
YouTube

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Serious / Re: What should Dzhohkar Tsarnaev's punishment be?
« on: April 19, 2015, 08:11:34 PM »
How is that even remotely preferable to dying. For the first few thousand days, you'll be fine, sure, but what about when you're 10,000 days into your permanent sentence?

You adapt and find ways to entertain yourself. Like I said: reading, exercise, education, etc. It's not like he's going to be sitting in solitary confinement for the rest of his life.

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