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The Flood / Re: Worst to Top Star Wars Movie?
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:25:30 PM »
Oh, you're mostly right. I was mainly reading your posts, I guess.
Well, with regards to what you said, I don't really factor in a scene's "iconic"-ness when judging movies. What's iconic about Empire, anyway? We have the Vader reveal, the Hoth battle that everyone seems to like so much, and... I can't really think of anything else. It was that unmemorable to me. What else was iconic, and why should they be considered reasons for the film's apparent quality?

Not sure how to convince you about Hoth. It's got incredible sets, a great introduction into the mood of the film and the situation (scrolling intro scene aside, it shows us that despite the victory in IV the Rebels are still on the run and aren't safe, without overbearing exposition), wonderful cinematography and the best mix of practical and special effects in the series. It's also just a fun fight; the ship designs are cool, the AT-AT is a silly but unique concept, the way they take them down and evacuate the base is just really fun...like I said, I don't know how to convince you. If you didn't like it, you didn't like it.

I like learning more about the philosophy of the Force, the history of the Empire and the Jedi, the twist in Bespin, Han's carbonite scene, and the best fight in the entire series: the duel between Luke and Vader.

I'm not really big on stacking the films in a list of preference. I wouldn't say V is better than IV of III.

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The Flood / Re: Worst to Top Star Wars Movie?
« on: October 18, 2015, 07:11:50 PM »
I think Empire is really underrated in this thread.
...fucking HOW

EVERYONE said it was their favorite one except me

Oh, you're mostly right. I was mainly reading your posts, I guess. It's become pretty popular these days to shit on Empire for being boring, though. I guess it hasn't caught on much on here yet.

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The Flood / Re: Worst to Top Star Wars Movie?
« on: October 18, 2015, 06:55:05 PM »
I think Empire is really underrated in this thread. Sure it doesn't have any huge spectacles or space battles, but it has some of the most iconic scenes in cinema history and really fleshed out the universe. It was a fantastic sequel, and arguably the deepest film in the franchise so far.

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The Flood / Re: First official Force Awakens poster
« on: October 18, 2015, 04:25:36 PM »
I find it interesting that Luke isn't on the poster.
Luke is definitely going to be the big reveal during the movie, they're not going to show him in the promotional material.

The Death Star-esque thing is Starkiller base. It's a planet that has been hollowed out around the equator.
Given that the First Order is supposed to be a radical splinter group modellig themselves after the Empire, I doubt they have the resources to accomplish such a feat. This makes me think that the superweapon may in fact be a lot older than the First Order. It's possible it's some relic from the KotOR era.

This definitely works with the running narrative that Kylo Ren is some Sith-wannabee obsessed with uncovering old artifacts and relics from Sith history.

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The Flood / Re: Seige of Riverrun confirmed for S6 (GoT)
« on: October 18, 2015, 02:10:00 PM »
Doesn't really make sense since Jaime's off in Dorne, but I'm sure he'll just teleport back like all the characters do when the plot needs it.

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The Flood / Re: What is your Barber like?
« on: October 17, 2015, 11:48:15 PM »
He's an asshole Jordanian that runs his mouth about picking up girls and shit like that. But he does a great fade and charges nine bucks.

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Gaming / Re: Game(s) you loved at first, but grew to hate
« on: October 17, 2015, 09:04:57 PM »
World of Warcraft and The Old Republic. I've disavowed MMOs forever; I just can't handle the addictive and time-consuming nature of them.

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The Flood / Re: DIY projects you wanna do?
« on: October 17, 2015, 08:58:40 PM »
Sounds cool, definitely post about it.

Last night I started aging some moonshine into whisky, and premade cocktail. Sealed it in some mason jars with some JD barrel chips.

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The Flood / Re: Hunter x hunter
« on: October 17, 2015, 05:27:59 PM »
Generic shonen x Generic shonen

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The Flood / Re: If Texas and Arizona went to war
« on: October 17, 2015, 10:51:47 AM »
Probably Texas. Us Arizonans are turning into pussified liberals.

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Serious / Re: Are hypothetical scenarios of any value in discussion?
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:30:44 PM »
They're a total waste of time, just like semantics.

All of science is grounded in the hypothetical.
A scientific hypothesis isn't a regular hypothetical.

Hypotheticals explore the world via inductive thought. Socrates proposed that all the information in the entire universe could be discerned merely through hypothetical discussion and inductive reasoning. If some discussion is of no value, it's because the premise is worthless, not because it is hypothetical.

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Serious / Re: CAN'T CONDEMN THE SNOWDEN
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:24:03 PM »
but a 10% rate of success is ridiculous.
I think you misread. 10% of the casualties are the intended target, meaning for every one target they kill, on average, they kill 9 other militants.

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But this is in addition to the previous revelations that the administration would often order drone strikes without going through the proper legal channels. Illegally crossing borders to commit an extrajudicial assassination that isn't even legal under US law, never mind the other country's, just to not even get the guy you're aiming at (because you knew they probably wouldn't even be there), and then cover all of that up, is so egregiously, blatantly illegal, unjustifiable, and morally reprehensible.
I'm not sure if you're referring specifically to Anwar al-Awlaki, but his death was pretty well-justified. As for supposedly sweeping authority to kill Americans abroad, that's an entirely separate issue from what is discussed in 'The Drone Papers'. As for the legality, it's plainly clear that targeted killings and assassinations are completely different legal and ethical entities. Killing a leader of an active militant group is tantamount to national self defense, just like any other strike or attack.

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I don't know how anyone can be so content with being lied to.
Predator drones, their capabilities, and the legal discussion behind their use, have been talking points for more than two decades. Being ignorant is not the same as being deceived.

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The Flood / Re: Why don't you lift weights?
« on: October 16, 2015, 06:37:20 PM »
How the hell are you people arguing about this LOL

Exercise is good and important. Bodybuilding is stupid. End of discussion.
Bodybuilding is literally build upon different exercises and a healthy diet.

You do you, but bodybuilders are some of the weakest fit people I've ever seen. No stamina or practical strength, just muscles. Yeah they're stronger than a guy that doesn't lift regularly, but the whole point of bodybuilding is to build big muscles, not strong ones. For example, bodybuilders in any military branch's boot camp tend to be some of the worst performers.

Not trying to knock a hobby, though.

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Serious / Re: John Kasich has released his economic platform
« on: October 16, 2015, 03:45:21 PM »
Nothing outstanding. I still support him though.

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The Flood / Re: Why don't you lift weights?
« on: October 16, 2015, 02:42:00 PM »
I do. Not bodybuilding (which is legitimately retarded), but actual strength training. Been sticking with PPL for a pretty long time.
What the fuck are you gonna do with all that power?

I'm not sure what you mean.

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The Flood / Re: Why don't you lift weights?
« on: October 16, 2015, 02:39:13 PM »
I do. Not bodybuilding (which is legitimately retarded), but actual strength training. Been sticking with PPL for a pretty long time.

Tbh cardio is way more important for a healthy lifestyle, though.

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Serious / Re: CAN'T CONDEMN THE SNOWDEN
« on: October 16, 2015, 12:29:32 PM »
Look, the alternative is to send infantry or special forces in to capture the target, which is hardly viable in places like Somalia. Eggsalad mentioned you don't win wars by playing whack-a-mole...well actually you can; that's how the Taliban was deposed in Afghanistan after their regime fell via conventional warfare, and that's how Tanzim Qaidat was successfully combated in Iraq.
Not to disregard the above body of your post, because it is correct and important, but hasn't the deterioration of the situation in Iraq again and the continued existence of Al-Qaeda illustrated that the war essentially is a matter of trying to actively delay the revival of international terrorism rather than finding a permanent solution? Essentially endless whack-a-mole because if we stop things will get worse?

I think our exit strategy (i.e., publicly announcing a withdrawal date more than a year out without allowing the nation to stabilize) contributed largely to the renewed presence of Al Qaeda in Iraq and the formation of ISIS. The permanent solution really is to kill their leadership; most rank and file members of these organizations are uneducated, poor, and driven to extremism through desperation and cults of personality. The solution is to eliminate them, build up the affected nations to be self-sustainable (i.e., winning the hearts and minds of the people as was so often repeated as a primary objective of our presence in Iraq), and ensure the wealthy radicals controlling all those people don't have the chance to do so again.

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Serious / Re: CAN'T CONDEMN THE SNOWDEN
« on: October 16, 2015, 11:04:13 AM »
Just pulling a snippet from the melodramatic 'Drone Papers' site:

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During one five-month period of the operation, according to the documents, nearly 90 percent of the people killed in airstrikes were not the intended targets. In Yemen and Somalia, where the U.S. has far more limited intelligence capabilities to confirm the people killed are the intended targets, the equivalent ratios may well be much worse.

“Anyone caught in the vicinity is guilty by association,” the source said. When “a drone strike kills more than one person, there is no guarantee that those persons deserved their fate. … So it’s a phenomenal gamble.”

This is literally how bombing has worked for the past century. Saying 90% of casualties aren't the intended targets is kind of silly. We've moved on from carpet bombing entire bases, with much higher rates of civilian casualties, to precision strikes on key personnel and their staff. Do innocent people die? Probably, but there's far more work put into deciding targets and strikes than there ever have been in history -- we're talking orders of magnitude more effort. Dozens or even hundreds of people contribute to compiling profiles and mission parameters for each strike. From the article:
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On average, one document states, it took the U.S. six years to develop a target in Somalia, but just 8.3 months to kill the target once the president had approved his addition to the kill list.

Look, the alternative is to send infantry or special forces in to capture the target, which is hardly viable in places like Somalia. Eggsalad mentioned you don't win wars by playing whack-a-mole...well actually you can; that's how the Taliban was deposed in Afghanistan after their regime fell via conventional warfare, and that's how Tanzim Qaidat was successfully combated in Iraq.

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Gaming / Re: Post a game ending without saying what game it is.
« on: October 16, 2015, 08:38:23 AM »
An illusion of your dead Father shows you the way out of a maze when you're trying to outrun an explosion after killing the bad guy.

James McCloud was real and I refuse to believe otherwise.

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The Flood / Which sport produces the best athletes?
« on: October 16, 2015, 08:30:07 AM »
I'd say decathlons, since those athletes need to be masters of ten events with very different techniques. Swimming probably produces some of the most fit people, though.


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The Flood / Re: Riddle
« on: October 15, 2015, 10:16:20 PM »
I feel like you're not one to be wrong about this but I don't understand how that makes sense.

Spoiler
Ask one what the other would say, then take the opposite road.

Read it again

Oh, ha, I just assumed it was the traditional riddle.

I suppose you could say, "If you were a liar and 'yes' means left and 'no' means right, which road should I take?" Then take the opposite.

If he's a liar he'll tell you what a truthful person would say. If he's truthful he'll tell you what a liar would say. Either way you want the opposite of what you're told.

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The Flood / Re: Riddle
« on: October 15, 2015, 08:48:52 PM »
Spoiler
Ask one what the other would say, then take the opposite road.

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The Flood / Re: tbh fam i would probs get a tattoo
« on: October 15, 2015, 08:02:45 PM »
I've wanted a tattoo of the Pioneer 10 pulsar map for a while. Not a big fan of tattoos in general, though.

Spoiler

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The Flood / Re: R + L = J
« on: October 15, 2015, 07:57:55 PM »
He's dead, so there goes that theory

He's confirmed alive in the next season and the battle at the Tower of Joy is confirmed (presumably to show Lyanna's death and the reveal that she asked Ned to promise to raise Jon).

R + L = J is pretty much confirmed at this point.

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Serious / Re: Are hypothetical scenarios of any value in discussion?
« on: October 15, 2015, 03:35:00 PM »
They're a total waste of time, just like semantics.

All of science is grounded in the hypothetical.

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Serious / Re: Are hypothetical scenarios of any value in discussion?
« on: October 15, 2015, 01:48:48 PM »
I can't believe anyone would say they aren't.

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Serious / Re: Do you vote?
« on: October 14, 2015, 10:09:17 PM »
Only federal stuff. I can't vote in the state I'm living in, and I find it very difficult to stay informed about candidates from my distinct of residency.

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The Flood / Re: The date went bad, what do you do?
« on: October 14, 2015, 10:08:05 PM »
Finish the meal, pay, say it's just not working out, steal her purse, take her car, then drive to her parents house and murder them.

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Gaming / Re: Destiny now has micro transactions
« on: October 14, 2015, 10:53:51 AM »

3. They will be selling starter packs and XP boosts in the future.

This isn't confirmed, and is unlikely since they've said purchases will be cosmetic. Even then, a small fee to get to the starting point of the current content isn't a big deal. It's common in MMOs.

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Gaming / Re: Destiny now has micro transactions UPDATE
« on: October 14, 2015, 08:04:37 AM »
The top person has 4788 hours...

That's 200 days...

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Literally how. I no lifed Halo Custom Edition for nearly 4 years and ended up with 3500 hours. To have nearly 5000 hours in just over a year is insane. Do these people have any form of lives?

I'm just gonna assume it was a shared account or it was constantly left on

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